Attila Computer & Hardware Recommendations

**railgar** · February 18, 2015, 01:43 PM

Bad optimization :

i5 4670k oc in 4 ghz no turbo

msi 780 ti oc. ( 4 go gddr )

8 go ram

win 7 64 bit.

game play less 35 fps in battle "medium or big ", un 30 fps in world map after she is revelated.

i have realy good computer and sorry, game not "good fps".

for my PC need 60fps un world map ALL TIME, and minimum 45 fps in big battle.

if i have 25 fps in big battle with my PC, "normal player with normal PC" have 15 fps in battle? its a joke serious.

and i dont play in mega bigger ultra, i play in recommanded settings, with no AA, no SSAO, no biggest units size and shadow medium.

**nhartwell** · February 18, 2015, 05:06 PM

Hi guys, just a quick piece of advice if you don't mind.

I'm looking to improve my performance on Attila, currently getting by with "performance" settings but not keen on spending a great deal on new components. Budget is 100 pounds, but i'd prefer to spend less, and from what i can gather from checking my specs on game debate it's my GPU letting me down (as i expected). Im not looking to go wild and run the game on Ultra necessarily, just looking for a boost where i can play the game on at least quality settings (and hopefully ultra unit sizes) so was wondering what you guys would suggest to achieve that. I'm ok buying used products also, such as a Radeon R9 270 Asus, which i'm bidding for currently (would that be good enough?). As an aside I could run Rome 2 in between High and Very High but I am aware that Attila needs quite a bit more to run on similar settings.

Here are my basic specs:-

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 640 Quad core
GPU: GeForce GT 430
Mobo: ASUS M4A78LT-M-LE
RAM: DDR3 4GB
HDD: 600GB, not sure of brand.

What would you suggest to improve the performance to at least Quality settings? Would a good GPU upgrade suffice or am I being optimistic? Thanks for any suggestions
nhartwell

**SPARTAN VI** · February 18, 2015, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by nhartwell

Hi guys, just a quick piece of advice if you don't mind.

I'm looking to improve my performance on Attila, currently getting by with "performance" settings but not keen on spending a great deal on new components. Budget is 100 pounds, but i'd prefer to spend less, and from what i can gather from checking my specs on game debate it's my GPU letting me down (as i expected). Im not looking to go wild and run the game on Ultra necessarily, just looking for a boost where i can play the game on at least quality settings (and hopefully ultra unit sizes) so was wondering what you guys would suggest to achieve that. I'm ok buying used products also, such as a Radeon R9 270 Asus, which i'm bidding for currently (would that be good enough?). As an aside I could run Rome 2 in between High and Very High but I am aware that Attila needs quite a bit more to run on similar settings.

Here are my basic specs:-

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 640 Quad core
GPU: GeForce GT 430
Mobo: ASUS M4A78LT-M-LE
RAM: DDR3 4GB
HDD: 600GB, not sure of brand.

What would you suggest to improve the performance to at least Quality settings? Would a good GPU upgrade suffice or am I being optimistic? Thanks for any suggestions
nhartwell

The CPU will hold you back, but with a £100 budget, you're in GTX 750 Ti and R7 260X territory. Between those two, the GTX 750 Ti is the clear winner and it even beats the R9 270, but that's at the "performance" setting. To get to the "quality setting," you'd probably need to spring for a R9 270X at the very least (~£125), but would be better served with a R9 285 or 280X (£150-180). I'm not recommending the nvidia products in that range because they're grossly outpriced by the AMD offerings.

**nhartwell** · February 18, 2015, 05:54 PM

Thanks for the help SPARTAN VI, very informative. I'll be able to pick up the R9 270 for under £50 as it stands but i'll look into what you suggested if the price goes much above that. I'll keep my eyes peeled for a used R9 285/280X over the coming weeks. Out of interest, what would you recommend for a relatively cheap processor in a similar price range of 100 pounds?

**SPARTAN VI** · February 18, 2015, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by nhartwell

Thanks for the help SPARTAN VI, very informative. I'll be able to pick up the R9 270 for under £50 as it stands but i'll look into what you suggested if the price goes much above that. I'll keep my eyes peeled for a used R9 285/280X over the coming weeks. Out of interest, what would you recommend for a relatively cheap processor in a similar price range of 100 pounds?

Can't upgrade the CPU in a meaningful way with only £100. To get a newer CPU, you would need a newer motherboard and (probably) RAM to support it, so that's not enough to work with to upgrade all three. Since you're stuck with the AM3 board, you can look into finding a used Phenom II X4. Prices for obsolete hardware can vary from dirt cheap to wildly overpriced though. It's a step up from Athlon II, but may yield a small improvement in Attila/R2TW.

**jaafar11** · February 18, 2015, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by SPARTAN VI

Can't upgrade the CPU in a meaningful way with only £100. To get a newer CPU, you would need a newer motherboard and (probably) RAM to support it, so that's not enough to work with to upgrade all three. Since you're stick with the AM3 board, you can look into finding a used Phenom II X4. Prices for obsolete hardware can vary from dirt cheap to wildly overpriced though. It's a step up from Athlon II, but may yield a small improvement in Attila/R2TW.

hey thanks alot for your help man i bought this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291366144311...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
its the same price as teh last one i posted but with an i7

so is there a difference between running attila on windows 7 vs windows 8

**SPARTAN VI** · February 18, 2015, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by jaafar11

hey thanks alot for your help man i bought this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291366144311...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
its the same price as teh last one i posted but with an i7

Originally Posted by jaafar11

so is there a difference between running attila on windows 7 vs windows 8

That's a solid machine at a decent price. They skimped a bit on the motherboard though. Granted you have an unlocked GPU, the motherboard doesn't have much, if any, overclocking features. Still, it will run Attila well. IDK about performance difference not much, if any, difference in gaming performance between Win 7 and 8/8.1.

**craziii** · February 19, 2015, 02:42 AM

@spartan, they either wait 4 months for the price drop or spend 200$ more. it is that simple

especially if they want to play games in high quality till 2017(2-3 years).

**alQamar** · February 19, 2015, 05:37 AM

Hi guys,

I just finished and uploaded the Hyperthreading and multicore support benchmarks:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post14360604

I can imagine most of you may be satisfied that you can finally play this game, but It would make me very happy if anyone of you can take some time to contribute in the benchmark thread with a personal result. Please read the rules how to post your benchmark results.

**craziii** · February 19, 2015, 02:12 PM

new benchmarks http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2421432 290x is doing great, so is the 290. kakakaaa. now, even if total war is all you play, a 290 beats every single card for "best bang for the buck" the price has actually gone up by 10$ since my last post. 960 price has gone down by 10$ below msrp at 199$ judging by the current prices on pcpartpicker, 960 at 200$, 290 at 250$ 50$ for 30 to 40% more performance

50$ is 25% of 200$

970 is now super trash. 70$ for 1 to 2 fps gain. 290x for 290$ beating the 970 by 1 or tied, being 30$ cheaper. remember, 290 n 290x both got working 4gb vram

hope this helps you guys out. all prices are current as of 2/19/15.

**Hrotgarmr** · February 19, 2015, 05:16 PM

Hey guys.

I hope this is he right place to ask this and yeah, you probably get this kind of question all the time.
I'm the biggest noob when it comes to tech stuff, so I'd like to ask you if I'd be able to play the game on medium - high settings with this mashine.
AA and that kinda stuff is not that important to me, but I pretty much always play with extreme unit size.
Would that work?

Intel Core i5 (4th Gen.) 4460 / 3.2 GHz
8 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750
Windows 8.1

**alQamar** · February 19, 2015, 06:11 PM

It is hard to tell anything about that yet, I hope for a better participation in the benchmark thread Hrot, so we can also see results of "low end" and "mid range" class computers.
Unfortunately it doesn't look like the benchmark threads is accepted like it was for Shogun 2 and Rome 2... but it's all fresh so I haven't lost hope.

How about our tech contributors would set a start and fill the benchmark thread with life too?

**alQamar** · February 20, 2015, 05:20 PM

another update for you guys: at least in the benchmark it makes quite no difference how much cpu speed you have, means that the performance in terms of fps is quite the same regardless you OC the CPU or not. :/
it was quite the same in the rome 2 benchmark, but I never wrote those findings down, and now I am also to lazy to repeat this for a comparison.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post14360604

**Davincee** · February 20, 2015, 06:38 PM

Hey citizens, just a quick question

totalheadache advised me to buy a new PC, so im looking at this one.
Will it run total war on high? And be able to play games well for the coming time?

Processor/type AMD A-series A8 5600K (VISION A8 Technology)

Processorspeed 4 x 3.6 GHZ

RAM 12GB DDR3 1600 Transcend (1600mhz)

Harddisk / storage 1000 GB S-ATA 3 Western Digital

Videospecifications NVIDIA GT610 videokaart 2GB

Really much appreciated.

**SPARTAN VI** · February 20, 2015, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Davincee

Hey citizens, just a quick question

totalheadache advised me to buy a new PC, so im looking at this one.
Will it run total war on high? And be able to play games well for the coming time?

Processor/type AMD A-series A8 5600K (VISION A8 Technology)

Processorspeed 4 x 3.6 GHZ

RAM 12GB DDR3 1600 Transcend (1600mhz)

Harddisk / storage 1000 GB S-ATA 3 Western Digital

Videospecifications NVIDIA GT610 videokaart 2GB

Really much appreciated.

Nope, that PC probably wouldn't run it very well even on the "max performance" preset (i.e. lowest settings).

Originally Posted by alQamar

another update for you guys: at least in the benchmark it makes quite no difference how much cpu speed you have, means that the performance in terms of fps is quite the same regardless you OC the CPU or not. :/
it was quite the same in the rome 2 benchmark, but I never wrote those findings down, and now I am also to lazy to repeat this for a comparison.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post14360604

That's very interesting and something I'd like to reproduce on my rig. If that's the case, I'm even more puzzled by the huge performance gap I'm seeing on my rig versus other with similar setups.

**Davincee** · February 20, 2015, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by SPARTAN VI

Nope, that PC probably wouldn't run it very well even on the "max performance" preset (i.e. lowest settings).

Thanks for the quick reply man.

AMD phenom II x6 six core processor 3.2 ghz
Asus Gforce GTX 560 ti
8 gig ram

is this much better?

**SPARTAN VI** · February 20, 2015, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Davincee

Thanks for the quick reply man.

AMD phenom II x6 six core processor 3.2 ghz
Asus Gforce GTX 560 ti
8 gig ram

is this much better?

Better, but you're looking at somewhere between "max performance" and "performance" presets, I bet.

Are you looking at prebuilt machines? Are you open to building your own?

**Davincee** · February 20, 2015, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by SPARTAN VI

Better, but you're looking at somewhere between "max performance" and "performance" presets, I bet.

Are you looking at prebuilt machines? Are you open to building your own?

Well I presumed (specs arent my strong point) that i would get the most bang for my buck from a prebuilt desktop, but my total budget is €600,-/$680,- Is that enough for a great pc?
So i really dont know what to buy, prebuilt or selfmade, and i just wanna get back to those total war rome 1 times where battles loaded up in 20 seconds you know.

So what would your advice be? (allready have a good monitor so just the pc)

**Shapur e Sassani** · February 22, 2015, 03:40 AM

If my laptop runs Rome 2 extreme without any lags will it run attila extreme graphic without lag?

**monkiman** · February 22, 2015, 04:20 AM

Hello, thanks for doing this Splenyi, I've read the entire thread.
This computer will be my gaming computer, but with some minor work capabilities. To be built starting nowish (?)...until march-april.
Besides Attila I'll play Rome 2, COH & FM15. Other programs that I use are Photoshop, AutoCAD, ArchiCAD, and some 3D Render like Artlantis or VRay; so, I'm thinking about adding an additional RAM 8GB after a couple of months.

Could this build do the trick?
Thanks again!!!