Attila Computer & Hardware Recommendations

**Sir_Pee_Alot** · February 17, 2015, 06:41 PM

500 watt? you can use some more i think, Not enough power will result in crashes. I had it with Napoleon when i played MP battles my PC always crashed after 20min because of not enough power.

**jaafar11** · February 17, 2015, 07:11 PM

MM10.34.858
Intel I7-4770k 3.5GHz
8GB DDR3
GTX 970
1TB
thermaltake TR2 430W ultra quiet ATX Power Supply w/ 6pin PCI-E
what do you guys think about this?

or this power supply : Logisys 600W Extra Quiet ATX Power Supply, SLI & X-fire ready

**binarystar** · February 17, 2015, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by jaafar11

MM10.34.858
Intel I7-4770k 3.5GHz
8GB DDR3
GTX 970
1TB
thermaltake TR2 430W ultra quiet ATX Power Supply w/ 6pin PCI-E
what do you guys think about this?

Get at least a good 600w power supply. I suggest Corsair. The new gtx 900 cards do use less power, though 450w is cutting it pretty close. I run an i5 4670k overclocked, and a gtx 970 also overclocked with a 600w corsair with no problems.

**jaafar11** · February 17, 2015, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by binarystar

Get at least a good 600w power supply. I suggest Corsair. The new gtx 900 cards do use less power, though 450w is cutting it pretty close. I run an i5 4670k overclocked, and a gtx 970 also overclocked with a 600w corsair with no problems.

what do you think of the motherboard?

**binarystar** · February 17, 2015, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by jaafar11

what do you think of the motherboard?

It's a micro atx board, so its small. Make sure your case will fit it properly so the I/O ports line up correctly. Will do a decent enough job running your cpu and video card, don't expect to get any kind of decent overclocking with it though.

**Copperbad** · February 17, 2015, 08:45 PM

GTX 970 Specifically says to use it with a 500W or better

**SPARTAN VI** · February 17, 2015, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Copperbad

GTX 970 Specifically says to use it with a 500W or better

This. The 500W 80+ certified PSU OP picked in the second post is probably more than enough. Maxwell chips sip on power compared to performance chips over the last several generations. Do you have a link for the PSU so we can look over the specs?

**binarystar** · February 17, 2015, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by jaafar11

ASUS B85M-G, Onboard Video, HD Audio, GB LAN, USB3.0, HDMI & DVI

Thats a micro atx board as well, and its B85. It's worse than the other one. If youre on a budget and cant spend more than $79 on a mobo, stick with that MSI one, should be fine.

**jaafar11** · February 17, 2015, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by binarystar

Thats a micro atx board as well, and its B85. It's worse than the other one. If youre on a budget and cant spend more than $79 on a mobo, stick with that MSI one, should be fine.

what do you recommend? even if its a little price, list three from highest price to lowest

http://www.ebay.com/itm/391059118408, this is what im going for i think

**o0LuNeStA0o** · February 18, 2015, 12:27 AM

I honestly prefer building myself over buying a prebuilt due to it usually being cheaper. That being said, I gave it a quick glance over and most of the stuff looks fine.

However, the psu is alarming. Your whole system revolves around that. Is 600w psu enough? More than likely. However it would benefit you greatly to stick with psu brands like: Antec, SeaSonic, Corsair, XFX and the likes.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/T2g799
As you see there, you would save about $300 (roughly $200 if you need to buy the OS) by assembling it yourself and you would be getting a better quality psu and mobo. It's relatively easy, just watch a video or 2. This is assuming you're in the US though.

Though I don't believe this is the place for build recommendations.

**craziii** · February 17, 2015, 11:04 PM

@spartan I would 100% recommend people to get the 980 for the very good tier. otherwise solid builds. I do kinda agree with splenyi about a good case and psu. they can be reuse for at least a few builds if you get good ones.

@boicote gaming laptops = sager, quality and reasonable price. 840m is not meant for gaming bro.

970m http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8268s...ma-p-6987.html clevo p150sm a
980m http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8652-...sg-p-7795.html clevo p650sg

xoticpc does ship to EU but shipping would cost alot + vac I believe. best solution is to find a EU clevo reseller.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thre...ion-v1.652403/ link to forum thread with EU resellers. take your time to read and understand it. find the one you need. good luck. I almost bought a 980m 17 inch from xotic pc but decided to wait till june to see what amd has to offer.

**SPARTAN VI** · February 18, 2015, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by craziii

@spartan I would 100% recommend people to get the 980 for the very good tier. otherwise solid builds. I do kinda agree with splenyi about a good case and psu. they can be reuse for at least a few builds if you get good ones.

I'd go for the GTX 980 too, but at the "very good" tier we have $800-850 budget. A GTX 980 would soak up over 60% of the budget leaving next to nothing for the rest of the components. If you can make a fit though, I'd love to see it!

I changed the PSU to something that's actually cheaper and 80+ bronze, so that works out. I'd have to stop at the case though. Given the constraints, I can't recommend a better case at the expense of gaming performance. That said, the case at the entry tiers is also solid.

For reference:

My "very good tier" recommendation:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($328.99 @ Directron)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $804.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

**SPARTAN VI** · February 18, 2015, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by jaafar11

http://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-G...=core+i5+4690k what do you think?

I don't like Cyberpower. Overpriced/underpowered, take your pick. Roommate had one a few years back and he's gone back to building his own machines as a result.

For $800, you're much better served with my "very good tier" recommendation below. Unless you can't or don't know how to build your own PC.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($328.99 @ Directron)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $804.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

**jaafar11** · February 18, 2015, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by SPARTAN VI

I don't like Cyberpower. Overpriced/underpowered, take your pick. Roommate had one a few years back and he's gone back to building his own machines as a result.

For $800, you're much better served with my "very good tier" recommendation below. Unless you can't or don't know how to build your own PC.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
this looks exactly like what i want, i actually dont know how to build my own pc, is it hard? what do i need to learn/do?
fyi it says there are some compatibility issues with your case and motherboard
CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($328.99 @ Directron)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $804.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

**SPARTAN VI** · February 18, 2015, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by jaafar11

this looks exactly like what i want, i actually dont know how to build my own pc, is it hard? what do i need to learn/do?
fyi it says there are some compatibility issues with your case and motherboard

First, you replied within the quote, so it's hard to see your post.

Building a PC isn't too hard, but I may have lost perspective since I've been doing it for over 20 years. You'll only need a couple hand tools (e.g. phillips screwdriver and maybe tweezers if you drop a screw in a hard to reach spot), and there are plenty of resources (youtube videos, how-to write-ups) on how to do it. One of the harder parts is just figuring out what to buy to make sure everything works/fits at the highest performance for the least cost. That said, if you've never dont it before, I'd recommend you find a buddy who has. Generally everything that should fit together is self explanatory, but there's always risk in damaging a component if you're not sure what you're doing.

**SPARTAN VI** · February 19, 2015, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by jaafar11

this looks exactly like what i want, i actually dont know how to build my own pc, is it hard? what do i need to learn/do?
fyi it says there are some compatibility issues with your case and motherboard

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($328.99 @ Directron)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $804.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Forgot to mention, the compatibility issue is that the case has USB 3.0 ports on the front/top, but the motherboard only has USB 2.0 headers. This only means that the ports on the case would be limited to USB 2.0 speeds. Not really a big deal granted there are USB 3.0 on I/O plate (back of the PC).

**jaafar11** · February 18, 2015, 12:49 PM

what do you guys think of thi s: they gave it a 9/10 for attila on game debate AMD Radeon R7 260X 2GB

**apostolis** · February 18, 2015, 01:03 PM

alQamar really looking forward to your benchmarks and further conclusions. meanwhile after looking at the following CPU benchmarks i noticed (at the top i5 and i7) that a 500mHz increase in the CPU frequency only translates in 2 frames increase in framerates!!!! http://pclab.pl/art61577-8.html

**SPARTAN VI** · February 18, 2015, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by apostolis

alQamar really looking forward to your benchmarks and further conclusions. meanwhile after looking at the following CPU benchmarks i noticed (at the top i5 and i7) that a 500mHz increase in the CPU frequency only translates in 2 frames increase in framerates!!!! http://pclab.pl/art61577-8.html

Those results are very interesting. I may have to append my hardware recommendations for the Core i3 in favor of the FX-6350. They're more or less equal at stock speeds, but with an OC we're talking about a 23% improvement (4fps) in the FX-6350 over the i3's at extreme settings.