Siege hold out query

**tonedog** · January 18, 2015, 03:37 PM

Ive just had the AI begin a siege on one of my provincial capitals. I thought I would have a few turns to relieve the city but to my surprise the tool tip says 1 turn till surrender.

Shouldn't a provincial capital be holding out for longer than one turn?

**TheRazaman** · January 18, 2015, 03:40 PM

Which city? Did you recently capture it? Food situation? Etc. details details details

**Rafkos** · January 18, 2015, 03:40 PM

Ive just had the AI begin a siege on one of my provincial capitals. I thought I would have a few turns to relieve the city but to my surprise the tool tip says 1 turn till surrender.

Shouldn't a provincial capital be holding out for longer than one turn?

Wow, you should have at least 15 turns. What version do you use?

**tonedog** · January 18, 2015, 04:34 PM

Its Noreia and ive had it for at least 50 turns. Food is plus 5 in region and public order is 3 but minus 9 per turn. Im about 200 turns in, think I started with 1.02 but have been using the latest updates. I use the standalone mod version.

Its been great fun so far but this is annoying as im probably gonna lose the city due it only having a garrison force. Im guessing there is no way to sort this before clicking end turn?

ps,

Guess I better post this on the bug thread.

**Rafkos** · January 18, 2015, 04:41 PM

Looks like it's something related to traits/skills of enemy general, maybe one of them is broken or something. You can change some values inside the DeI pack just for some turns, go to this table:
db/campaign_difficulty_handicap_effects_tables/_raf_SIEGES_campaign_difficulty_handicap_effects
sort by "effects" and find:
rom_general_force_mod_siege_attack_holdout_time
then set effect value to -15 for all of them.

**tonedog** · January 18, 2015, 04:43 PM

There someone just reported the exact same issue on the bug thread so il think il wait n see what the guys make of it before messing about with files.

**Chris P. Bacon** · January 18, 2015, 06:34 PM

Yea I made a thread about the same thing as Macedon Pulpedeva was having the same problem for me.

**tonedog** · January 20, 2015, 08:55 AM

As I await a response on the bug forum about this im just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this issue apart from Chris and me?

**Reptile** · January 20, 2015, 10:45 AM

Hi!
Same problem with Romans! Broke my campain because it crashed at ai turn

**tonedog** · January 20, 2015, 11:49 AM

That sounds different to my issue. My game isn't crashing.

**Dresden** · January 20, 2015, 01:59 PM

I am trying to find the offending culprit. I assume it has to be a skill, tech, ancillary, etc that has too high values for siege reduction. Either that or somehow the AI had a confluence of every possible siege choice.