Corinth - but no athens or Sparta.

[MathiasOfAthens]

I like how they listened to the community and added corinth. Finally! But then they removed every other city in Greece. !

I get it... the game doesnt really take place in Greece. I know. But Athens was still important and people still lived in Greece. Fact is if Asia minor is for some reason lost then the ERE should be able to draw from resources in Greece. But with only 1 region there they wont be making a lot of money.


I hate CAs map making design process. Athens and at the very least Larissa should be on the map as minor cities. Just so that they are there.


RELEASE a campaign map making program CA so that we can redesign your maps. Ill pay for the program if you release one.

[Achilles Lacedaemon]

Their campaign maps are mainstream and simplified to match their simplified building and recruitment system.
Nothing surprising here.

[Nine]

Their campaign maps are mainstream and simplified to match their simplified building and recruitment system.
Nothing surprising here.

Building and recruitment system has always been simple.

[Prof]

Were Athens and Sparta significant in any way in that era? I agree that there is nearly nothing in Greece though...

[ShadowMassa]

Corinth was the regional capital of Achaea the Roman province. I agree, the region looks so bare.

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Were Athens and Sparta significant in any way in that era? I agree that there is nearly nothing in Greece though...

Corinth was the regional capital of Achaea the Roman province. I agree, the region looks so bare.

Pretty much this. Sparta hardly even existed anymore. Athens was an important center of education still, but most Roman administrative, military, etc. activities in the Region were either in Corinth or Thessalonica.

[Marcus Aemilius Lepidus]

Pretty much this. Sparta hardly even existed anymore. Athens was an important center of education still, but most Roman administrative, military, etc. activities in the Region were either in Corinth or Thessalonica.

However that center of education declined very fast under Christianity and i believe it was Justinian who closed the Neoplatonic schools and with that made Athen a city like any other.

[LEGIO_XXX ULPIA]

oh my bad! Athens...Sparta....

I want also Genzano di Roma...a very important strategical point near Roma...and of course,very important for all the Genzanesi!
Please CA...remove Ravenna...or Milano...we want Genzano di Roma!!!!

[Abdülmecid I]

Sparta was insignificant, Athenes not so much, although definitely smaller than Hellenistic Athenes. Corinth was the right choice for Attila's timeframe. It's not great, but it's not as bad as Rome2, where the Aetolian and Achaean Leagues aren't even present in the game.

[MathiasOfAthens]

oh my bad! Athens...Sparta....

I want also Genzano di Roma...a very important strategical point near Roma...and of course,very important for all the Genzanesi!
Please CA...remove Ravenna...or Milano...we want Genzano di Roma!!!!

Sparta was insignificant, Athenes not so much, although definitely smaller than Hellenistic Athenes. Corinth was the right choice for Attila's timeframe. It's not great, but it's not as bad as Rome2, where the Aetolian and Achaean Leagues aren't even present in the game.

Gods you guys do not listen.

Only corinth in Greece makes Greece pretty ing bare. Its like one region in England. Greece was the most prosperous region. One region wont make it prosperous at all.

I am not complaining about the lack of my favorite cities. Those are not my favorite. This is similar to the lack of Byzantium in Rome II. Who thought it was a great idea to not have Byzantium?

I never said remove any cities? Id rather there were more cities, not less.

I know Sparta was insignificant. Never said add it did I? I know those leagues were nonexistent. Never said add them, did I?

I said add in Athens and a city in Thessaly which were not insignificant. One region in Greece makes the whole region look bare. Its not right, imo. I would of been fine with two more cities represented at villages.

There was a time when CAs maps were worse. Med 2. Rome I. Those maps were horrible. One city represented Tunisia or Algeria. Least modders could edit the map. Easily.

If cities that were not important at this time but still existed, like Athens, are removed then remove all the other minor cities on the map. You only need 3 regions in Italy. North, Rome, and south. No barbarians in Africa.Only need 2 regions there.


Greece needs at least two more regions:
Epirius
Hellas (represented by Thebes or Athens.
Corinth can represent the Peloponnese.

[Abdülmecid I]

Only corinth in Greece makes Greece pretty ing bare. Its like one region in England. Greece was the most prosperous region. One region wont make it prosperous at all.

Not really. Even during the Hellenistic Era, regions like Egypt or Mesopotamia were much more prosperous than Greece, which is a rather mountainous region with limited fertility. When the trade routes changed and the peasants were replaced by the landlords, their slaves and their livestock, Greece's economic importance was significantly reduced.

[ShadowMassa]

The issue in Attila seems like the entire Greece is under the Roman province of Macedonia -

[Brivime]

The issue in Attila seems like the entire Greece is under the Roman province of Macedonia -

The south of England has more cities than 80% of the Arabian peninsula

What...

Also they should have added Mosul to the campaign map, I'm biased because I'm Moslawi but still it was a very important trade city.

[donni_1234]

Sparta was insignificant, Athenes not so much, although definitely smaller than Hellenistic Athenes. Corinth was the right choice for Attila's timeframe. It's not great, but it's not as bad as Rome2, where the Aetolian and Achaean Leagues aren't even present in the game.

Agree with what is said here and everyone else with Corinth being the centre of Roman power in the area.

Wasn't it the same in Medieval when playing as the Byzantines? And my memory doesn't stretch back as far as BI.

[Tuskin]

Macedonia should be Thessalonica, Larissa and (don't know the Epirus city name)
And a new province named Achaea should be made with Corinth, Athens and Gythion(during Roman times this city was more important economically then Sparta)

[Abdülmecid I]

Wasn't it the same in Medieval when playing as the Byzantines? And my memory doesn't stretch back as far as BI.

Yes, in M2 we also had Thessalonica for Macedonia and Corinth for Greece, which was acceptable. Personally, I'd like Thebes to be included, as it evolved into an important silk center, during the medieval times. In BI though, Thessalonica was again the capital of Macedonia, but instead of Corinth we had Athenes. However, although the number of regions is the same, the importance of Greece has been decreased in Attila, as the new game has much more regions than its predecessor.

[Brivime]

I also noticed, and going purely off the preview build videos but it seems that with the exception of the Lakhmids the entire province of Arabia Magna appears to be completely desolate? Mekka would have been established by this time, hell they could have just kept the cities from ROME 2 and renamed them... What the hell? Seriously that's just not cool if it's the case.

Historically most of the land going along the Arabian coastline would be completely settled to some extent, with cities also built along trade routs and fertile areas.

How do you devolve from having a fleshed out Arabian peninsula, with albeit horrible faction rosters to just Ghassanids, Lakhmids, Mazun and Himyar? Some one please tell me I'm wrong about this and Hijaz is actually settled in the game as well as the Gulf.

I'm not asking for every little tribe ever on the map but CA is missing a chance to include the Banu Ghatafan which would be a unique Jewish Arab faction or the Bani Kahlan, or you know... Kindah?

[MathiasOfAthens]

Gods that map looks really ing bare. Africa is bare. And 1 region on the west coast of Arabia?

Gaul and Germany are really ing lacking in Regions. You cant build anything out there. I am glad they at least added more regions to England.

CA - Always simplifying their campaign map. Fewer the regions the better so everything is ordered and the bare minimum is included. Replayability is at a minimum so that you dont stay with game for too long otherwise you wont buy the next title.

I think the german region is very bare. I get it. There was no HRE at this time. So what. What if you are playing as the Franks and instead of invading Gaul you want to build Frankia in Germany?

[LEGIO_XXX ULPIA]

Lol matthias. Lol.

[MathiasOfAthens]

My posts are always rants.