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    Default The BBC IS biased.

    They even ADMIT IT,themselves!

    link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

    Yes, we are biased on religion and politics, admit BBC executives
    By PAUL REVOIR

    "BBC executives have been forced to admit what critics have known for years - that the corporation is institutionally biased.
    The revelation came after details of an 'impartiality' summit called by its chairman, Michael Grade, were leaked.
    Senior figures admitted that the BBC is guilty of promoting Left-wing views and an anti-Christian sentiment.
    They also said that as an organisation it was disproportionately over-represented by gays and ethnic minorities.
    It was also suggested that the Beeb is guilty of political correctness, the overt promotion of multiculturalism and of being anti-American and against the countryside.
    During the meeting, hosted by Sue Lawley, executives admitted they would happily broadcast the image of a Bible being thrown away - but would not do the same for the Koran.

    Muslim leaders later condemned this approach.

    Ishmail Farhat of the Muslim Association of Britain said: "We don't support this kind of action or abuse. If they are respecting all religions - then they should treat all religions the same."
    the BBC executives also agreed that the BBC should broadcast an interview with Osama Bin Laden, despite the offence it would cause.
    Even one of the BBC's most senior journalists, political pundit Andrew Marr admitted that the corporation was unrepresentative of British society.
    He said: "The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly-funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people.
    "It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias."
    BBC 'diversity tsar' Mary Fitzpatrick claimed women newsreaders should be allowed to wear what they liked on air and went on to say this should include a Muslim veil.
    She spoke out after criticism was raised of TV newsreader Fiona Bruce wearing a necklace with a cross on it.

    'We may have gone too far in the direction of political correctness'

    The BBC's Washington correspondent Justin Webb also accused his own employers of being anti-American saying they treated it with scorn and derision and "no moral weight".
    He revealed that he had got deputy director general Mark Byford to secretly help him to "correct" it in his reports.
    Business presenter Jeff Randall said he complained to a senior executive at the BBC about the corporation's pro-multiculturalism stance.
    He claimed he was told: "The BBC is not neutral in multiculturalism, it believes in it and it promotes it."
    He told how he once wore Union Jack cufflinks to work and was rebuked with: "You can't do that, that's like the National Front!"
    One senior BBC executive admitted that the summit had opened people's eyes to how biased the BBC had become.
    He admitted: "There was a widespread acknowledgement that we may have gone too far in the direction of political correctness.

    "Unfortunately, much of it is so deeply embedded in the BBC's culture, that it is very hard to change it."

    The BBC is believed to be taking a more critical look at itself because it fears if it does not, its regulation could be removed from its board of governors and handed over to the independent regulator Ofcom."


    Well at least they admit it.we now just need a government with balls to get rid of the rediculous and unfair license fee,and bring the BBC back down to reality and uncover there arrogance and get rid of the terrible tv programs they FORCE us to pay for.

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    HA! now whoever it was earlier telling me the bbc are neutral...say that again to me?

    talking of terrible tv shows, spooks has been a bit rubbish since their end of the world storyline, i decided to complain over the episode a couple of weeks ago which involved christian suicide bombers (the muslims are allowed to get their voice heard on the issue, why cant i?)

    They never got back to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach
    HA! now whoever it was earlier telling me the bbc are neutral...say that again to me?

    talking of terrible tv shows, spooks has been a bit rubbish since their end of the world storyline, i decided to complain over the episode a couple of weeks ago which involved christian suicide bombers (the muslims are allowed to get their voice heard on the issue, why cant i?)

    They never got back to me.
    aye mate but thats the tip of the iceberg,i think the bbc does some good documentary's but just look at 'fame academy',the first series bombed and people walked out of the studio because it was so bad,yet they still commisoned it for a 2nd series,because to them viewing figures dont count they can do whatever they want thanks to the licence fee!

    how about this utterly atrocious 'torchwood' or 'only fools on horses', bbc3 and bb4 that only runs for about 8 hours a day!,endless home improvement,cookery programs and general crap,and we have to pay for all this junk that most of us dont even watch!

    we have BBCasian and 1xtra radio channels,and for the life of me i cant even understand what the presenters are saying,its meant to be english but sounds like some sort of monkey chatter to me.

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    Default Re: The BBC IS biased.

    good thing the beeb is getting re-formed in Jan 2007 eh?
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    Default Re: The BBC IS biased.

    like i said.

    If you actually knew anything about the beeb you would be happy that its being re-formed.
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    ^^
    it had better be!......it better not be some minor adjustments and set changes.......the license fee needs to be halved at least.

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    Who's not biased, I ask you? There's just different levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris
    Who's not biased, I ask you? There's just different levels.
    thats true, until the BBC admitted this,they had always held themselves up as a bastion of neutrality and 'fair reporting' when everyone could see otherwise.

    If a tv station is going to be biased,then they should certainly not be a state owned station and not cost £131 pounds a year to a citizen.

    you can have that type of system in russia,but in britain...its just not cricket

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    You aren't forced to pay for them. Just live without TV, it's not exactly difficult. As for bias, I'm not exactly surprised.

    As for the bible comment, I assume that it is because while the Bible is merely a copy of the text the Koran is considered holy in itself, and there are express instructions as to how it should be handed. Otherwise, it just seems to be "OMG! The BBC supports a liberal culture!", something that has been evident for some time, and nothing exactly news worthy. I also find it somewhat amusing that at the same time it is accused of having an anti-countryside, anti-American agenda, and also not representing the views of Britain.

    Really, if politics has resort to "You're biased! Therefore you're wrong!" arguments then we're no better off than the Americans. Shall I indulge myself a bit? After all, the article does come from the Daily Hate Mail, a newspaper that always irritates me by claiming to represent my views as a British subject. Most smirk-worthy though has to be its claims that the BBC over-represents gay people. Fair enough, maybe they do, but I'd rather watch an episode of Torchwood than read the paper which ran the headline ""Abortion hope after “gay genes” find" in response to the supposed discovery of "gay gene""

    Give me yoghurt, museli and an ethnic skirt any day. It certainly beats having to read another serialisation of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion".
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    Default Re: The BBC IS biased.

    Licence fee isnt being touched afaik.

    The Board of Governors is being removed from the equation to be replaced by an independant organisation that commisons programs based on a poll from the licence payers.

    Licence payments have to be thought of as buying shares, repeatedly. However the licence payer is going to be rewarded as they essentially own a part of a multi-billion pound organisation. the reward is going to be an emphatic voice in what the beeb produces. check out the beeb's board of governers website for more info. I had to take a note of it in my Press & Broadcasting in the UK Lecture but i cant find it anywhere
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    i don't pay a licence fee... so i'm not bothered lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Black Prince
    i don't pay a licence fee... so i'm not bothered lol
    do you have a TV................if so how do you get away with it? :hmmm:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tostig
    You aren't forced to pay for them. Just live without TV, it's not exactly difficult.
    BBC =/= TV

    Why must you have to pay for one form of propaganda? Why can’t I watch what I want?

    That is NOT a suitable excuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tostig
    As for bias, I'm not exactly surprised.
    I have had to point out to a few people on here this fact, doesn’t appear obvious to them, that's the problem. The BBC makes out that it's unbiased and reputable when it's not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tostig
    As for the bible comment, I assume that it is because while the Bible is merely a copy of the text the Koran is considered holy in itself, and there are express instructions as to how it should be handed.
    The BBC should be a secular organisation and therefore should not conform to religious edicts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tostig
    I also find it somewhat amusing that at the same time it is accused of having an anti-countryside, anti-American agenda, and also not representing the views of Britain.
    I don’t find the BBC’s position amusing at all……..

    Quote Originally Posted by Tostig
    Give me yoghurt, museli and an ethnic skirt any day. It certainly beats having to read another serialisation of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion".
    What? Thats also popular among the left?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris
    Who's not biased, I ask you? There's just different levels.
    Of course. But why should I have to pay for someone’s propaganda when I don’t have to pay for anyone else’s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syron
    What? Thats also popular among the left?
    First, you do not quote what I did not say, even if it's abviously a joke. And no, I am not "leftish", whatever you think I am. But again, I am more to the left than many here? Maybe, but that's because their much to the right.

    Of course. But why should I have to pay for someone’s propaganda when I don’t have to pay for anyone else’s?
    It's not exactly propaganda. Of course some stuff they said is stupid, but they have a political orientation, and even if they wanted to be neutral and the head leans to the left, well he's gonna hire people who think have good opinions, and thus who are also to the left. Do they report facts? Yes, do they have an opinion? Also. There is a difference between this and only reporting what the White House says.

    You know, where I live, the state sanctionned news station is more to the right (for you it would probably be the left though) and just like the newspaper I read, and they are federalist, and I am separatist, however the quality in these is much higher than in their more leftish concurrents. And while I am often more to the right than those news sources (but also sometimes more to the left) even the far left people I know read those.

    The point I am trying to get across, is that the opinion they might give doesn't change to the quality of the information. But I find that, at least in america, the right often has to twist facts to justif their opinions, and that gives your "leftish" media a better quality. That doesn't mean you have to agree with the information they give.

    It was also suggested that the Beeb is guilty of political correctness
    I am against political correctness, but this has nothing to do with political orientation.

    the overt promotion of multiculturalism
    Huh? Are you mad because they openly say that multiculturalism is good?

    and of being anti-American
    But there's plenty of reasons to be anti-american, if, of course, by american they refer to american politics and mentality in general, which if you compare to the rest of the civilised world is pretty retarded... oh sorry... I meant "conservative"...

    and against the countryside.
    By countryside, they probably mean redneck, and I don't think they need any publicity for that...
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    doesn’t appear obvious to them
    Who here is too stupid to look out for bias in their news-sources? Anyone volunteering? Of course not. Your point is piffle.

    The BBC should be a secular organisation and therefore should not conform to religious edicts.
    And therefore should not have its news-readers show any sign that might affect their ability to present the news neutrally, such as crosses. But wait, wasn't the Mail up in arms about that? They do however have a legal reason to do so, because they don't want to break the Public Order Act for something that might be insulting, do they? It's not the BBC's job to break the law, after all.

    Give me yoghurt, museli and an ethnic skirt any day. It certainly beats having to read another serialisation of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion".
    No, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was the publication responsible for much of the anti-Semitism in Russia in its imperial days. Despite being proven to be a forgery in a series of articles printed in The Times of London in 1921, it was run in a serialised form by the Daily Mail in the 1930s.

    I don’t find the BBC’s position amusing at all……..
    Oh well. Have you tried watching Blazing Saddles? It's bloody hilarious.
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    no, don't have a TV. got DVDs and a DVD player on my PC... what more do you need? if i want news i can get that online too...

    TVs are overrated

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    Who cares if the BBC admits that they are biased? It's not like it was a surprise that they were, or that they tried to ride the High Horse known as Neutrality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Revan
    Who cares if the BBC admits that they are biased? It's not like it was a surprise that they were, or that they tried to ride the High Horse known as Neutrality.
    i care that they are biased,and i feel a whole lot of other people care as well,why should my family and i pay £131 a year for some liberal propaganda that i dont subscribe to?

    i dont like the BBC's politics so why should i be forced to pay there license tax? (yes it IS a tax)
    even if i dont watch any of there shows?

    Tac,could you please give me some evidence of the article being 'debunked' or was you post just a typical attack on the mail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The DUKE
    Tac,could you please give me some evidence of the article being 'debunked' or was you post just a typical attack on the mail?
    looking for it it was one of the editor's blogs on news.bbc.co.uk which explained what had happened.
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    yeah bbc has some nice programming. I cant count how many times I'll watch something great and when the credits come on I see it was done at least in part by BBC. Theyre anti-american!? Ohh...the pain...well, I don't know how people can expect any media source to be unbiased.

    Has an unbiased paper, or news network or any media outlet existed? EVER?

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