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    Default Suggestion for a Army Encampment Feature to be available for all the armies, not just Horde

    When i first saw the Horde Mode Encampment stance, i thought ..hey any army of any faction, sort of sets up camp while travelling, just not in the total war games currently. So then, It would be nice if CA could please take in consideration to add a Encampment style stance to the armies even when not in horde mode, maybe?
    It could be something that replaces the Fortify stance from Rome 2, with the same awesome camp graphics on the map, as horde mode, and it could have some: recruitment bonuses, replenishment bonuses, less attrition in winter/desert and some defense bonuses or training bonuses.. This could even give specific army bonuses depending on the military traditions each army is specced to.

    This would also add another level of immersion and not to mention a cool ability feature for armies to have.

    Because i see myself as playing a horde faction, settle down and occupy territory, but then i'd miss the ability to encamp while the army is on the the go. ..

    Maybe i just think the Camps look too cool to have them be only a temporary thing and only for the horde factions.. Your Thoughts?

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    Default Re: Suggestion for a Army Encampment Feature to be available for all the armies, not just Horde

    I just opened a thread up about fortifications.

    I agree that giving that stance to all factions would be good however i think CA is trying to give a unique feel to to the horde factions.

    So while every faction maybe able to fortify its stance and create a fort, not every faction will be able to create an encampment.

    I believe it would be better if all factions could have proper decent forts though, not like those flimsy small wooden forts in Rome II.

    Perhaps something like this:

    Forts are in game, they can be upgraded with defenses and stone walls and towers, they don't vanish after a turn if no one is garrisoned in them however they cost ALOT to maintain so the player wouldn't just spam them !

    If the player doesn't spend money to keep them in good condition then they start falling into disrepair and eventually turn into ruins.
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    Default Re: Suggestion for a Army Encampment Feature to be available for all the armies, not just Horde

    mods will do it no doubt. Its an exclusive migratory feature currently and I doubt that will change. Kind of like how only barbs can liberate and sack when Rome 2 first came out.

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    Default Re: Suggestion for a Army Encampment Feature to be available for all the armies, not just Horde

    Has anyone seen a video or picture of the horde camp? I havnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    Has anyone seen a video or picture of the horde camp? I havnt.

    Yea, there are several youtubers who CA gave a restricted demo build for them to play with, and also Creative Assembly just posted a video today, specifically about the Horde mode / encampments. Just search for Attila Total War on YT and you'll find them.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedGuard View Post
    mods will do it no doubt. Its an exclusive migratory feature currently and I doubt that will change. Kind of like how only barbs can liberate and sack when Rome 2 first came out.
    I also see this be done by mods. But it doesn't have to be the same migratory system implemented for other factions. Because the encampment would still only work when in Horde mode, meaning you have to not own any settlements..

    So it would have to be added as a new stance to the army stance selection, which any army from any nation could use. It would give a nice edge of customization to each army and i think that people are going to want this once they see just how nice Horde mode is, especially the visual effect of the encampment, even if the bonuses would be very minuscule when a regular army used it.

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikazee786 View Post
    I just opened a thread up about fortifications.

    I agree that giving that stance to all factions would be good however i think CA is trying to give a unique feel to to the horde factions.

    So while every faction maybe able to fortify its stance and create a fort, not every faction will be able to create an encampment.

    I believe it would be better if all factions could have proper decent forts though, not like those flimsy small wooden forts in Rome II.
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    I agree and that is a good point. But, it is much easier to build a encampment then it is a fort.
    Think of it as the army being on a march and they camp for the night. Each soldier caries personal equipment anyway, plus there are supply carts with the army (realistically speaking) ..so the army would set up camp to: rest, wait for the opportune time to attack something, train, treat the wounded ..stuff like that. A fort would take longer to build and have a greater impact on things ..in my view.

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikazee786 View Post
    Perhaps something like this:

    Forts are in game, they can be upgraded with defenses and stone walls and towers, they don't vanish after a turn if no one is garrisoned in them however they cost ALOT to maintain so the player wouldn't just spam them !

    If the player doesn't spend money to keep them in good condition then they start falling into disrepair and eventually turn into ruins.
    This is actually a good idea, and i would like to add to it a bit. And this may be something that would work better in a Medieval type setting, lets say Medieval 3 Total War

    I think the ultimate "build a fort" option would be if you could only build one fort per region you own, so you would have to strategically place it in the best spot possible.
    Have the ability to eventually upgrade the fort into a Castle (expensive) and even Name it.
    You may remove a fort and rebuild it, but once it becomes a castle it would act like a minor settlement.
    The Castle then, would be able to protect refugees and its population would slowly grow; allowing you to build a couple additional buildings within the castle, i.e. farms or industry.

    I can see how this would be turned down by the devs, because it would mess up the balance between regions. But there should be a way to balance it all out, if they really want to. I've wanted the ability to add a settlement to your regions in Total War games For Ever .. lol :-)
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    Default Re: Suggestion for a Army Encampment Feature to be available for all the armies, not just Horde

    Quote Originally Posted by Bekan37 View Post
    Yea, there are several youtubers who CA gave a restricted demo build for them to play with, and also Creative Assembly just posted a video today, specifically about the Horde mode / encampments. Just search for Attila Total War on YT and you'll find them.
    You made it all sound so simple but I have done that already and didnt find anything with actual video on the camps. CA video talked about the camps but didnt show them.

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    Default Re: Suggestion for a Army Encampment Feature to be available for all the armies, not just Horde

    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    You made it all sound so simple but I have done that already and didnt find anything with actual video on the camps. CA video talked about the camps but didnt show them.
    Other youtubers like Sun Jetzu and Darrentotalwar have made mention of them.

    I asked darren in the comments section about forts and he said that attacking an encampment would play out a normal land battle
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    Default Re: Suggestion for a Army Encampment Feature to be available for all the armies, not just Horde

    I'm not sure it would be a good idea to extend the army encampment feature to all, because Hordes have to be slightly themed or you will just have absolutely similar and generic factions.

    An alternative could be that, when the last settlement of any faction is destroyed, they become a horde faction, and can try to survive (having the same diplomatical status) and resettle, or suffer battles and die out.

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