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    Default 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    Well....
    What factions would the comunity (and the modders like to see)?
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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    Definitley Bartix , and the many different variations of the tribes that inhabit the area around Bartix.

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    So how many spare faction slots does that give us spare?

    Heres the biggies that i think should be included:- Muscovoy (sp?) and Novgorod, Lithuania, Aragon, Burgundy, Either Norwar or Sweeden, Teutonic Order maby (but they could just be couted as HRE), Genoa - instead of being incorperated into Milan. Thats the main ones i think that are missing. Wouldnt be bad to add a couple Muslim factions too.. like the Timirud Empire. Adding these states at least would make the game complete in my opinion
    Last edited by Pyrrus; November 08, 2006 at 09:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrrus
    So how many spare faction slots does that give us spare?

    Heres the biggies that i think should be included:- Muscovoy (sp?) and Novgorod, Lithuania, Aragon, Burgundy, Either Norwar or Sweeden, Teutonic Order maby (but they could just be couted as HRE), Genoa - instead of being incorperated into Milan. Thats the main ones i think that are missing. Wouldnt be bad to add a couple Muslim factions too.. like the Timirud Empire. Adding these states at least would make the game complete in my opinion
    Though it wouldn't really stroke with EB's historcal accuracy policy.
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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by The White Knight
    Though it wouldn't really stroke with EB's historcal accuracy policy.
    Lol, apologies, i just read the thread name, didnt look at the sub folders ..

    But if u like EB can use my ideas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrrus
    Lol, apologies, i just read the thread name, didnt look at the sub folders ..

    But if u like EB can use my ideas
    Ditto

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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    Well I think there is 21 slots used at the moment ( both playable and non playable, also includes rebels ) So that would give the modders a full 10 slots, unless I have made a mistake.

    So seems that everyone could be made happy. Bohemia looks like it could be one of the first to be placed in though, cause I recall reading on these forums a good amount of support for that faction. Also will ease their job as they don't have to choose a faction to replace.

    Also I personally ( not based on history at all ) Bohemia, some more muslem factions, Ireland ( I am Irish shoot me ) Just generally where the factions are spread a little thin bulk those areas up abit. Also splitting Russia into two kingdoms would be nice.

    Although I hope that someone is gonna make a map with extra provinces like RTW. Although I ain't a modder, cause i simply can't get my head around it. I love to see all these exciting mods ( little and large ) taking shape and then getting to play them.

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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    If rebellions and emergencies will be similar to BI it would be interesting to use a few slots for faction rebels and similar stuff as aside 4-5 factions (like other celtic/iberian/german tribe, numidia plus one or two factions in africa and in the east) the other slots would be kind of tricky to be effective as 1 city factions tend to be not so well managed in the hands of the AI and they would be in crowded places most likely (syracuse and pergamum could be good examples) making their life even harder...
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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    Italian:
    Rome
    Italian/Roman rebels (Emerge from Rome)

    Hellenistic:
    Epirote Kingdom
    Achaean League
    Aetolian League
    Macedonia
    Ptolemaic Empire
    Seleucid Kingdom
    Baktria

    African:
    Carthage
    Numidia
    Aksumite Kingdom
    Egyptian rebels (emerge from Ptolemies)

    Barbarian:
    Celtiiberians (Spanish)
    Lusitanians (Spanish)
    Audui (Gallic)
    Arverni (Gallic)
    Suebii (Germanic)
    Chatti (Germanic)
    Casse (British)
    Getae (Dacian)
    Ardiaei (Illyrian)

    Nomadic:
    Sarmations
    Sakae

    Eastern:
    Nabatea
    Pontus
    Armenia
    Parthia
    Persian Rebels (Emerges from Seleucids or Parthians)

    Indian:
    Mauryan Empire
    Kalinga Kingdom

    I also think that there shouldn't be any single-province factions, such as Syracuse, Pergamon, Sparta and Judea. These should be classified independant factions, in other words rebels. They didn't expand much (I think) and it makes no difference when attacking them, long as they have the correct units. Looking forward to conquering Sparta, and with the right upgrades recruiting Spartan hoplites for my Roman army (Yeh it never happened but would be fun ).
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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    How do you know that the faction slots are 31?
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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    There are 22 factions in M2Tw(including rebels), and Episoltary Richards who visited the dev studio for a week confirmed that there are 31 factions slots(including rebels).
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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    Right, here would be my dream 31 faction roster (boring, I know!):

    1. SPQR
    2. Carthage
    3. Aedui
    4. Arverni
    5. Pontus
    6. Armenia
    7. Egypt
    8. Belgae/Nervii
    9. Casse
    10. Sweboz
    11. Chatti (or some such Germanic tribe; I'm not an expert on them)
    12. Sauromatae
    13. Saka-Rauka
    14. Massagetae
    15. Parthia
    16. Seleucid Empire
    17. Bactria
    18. Mauryan Empire
    19. Saba (in Arabia)
    20. Nabataea
    21. Massaesylii (or how do you spell it? The North African guys)
    22. Ilergetes
    23. Turdetani
    24. Macedon
    25. Epirus
    26. Getae
    27. Syracuse
    28. Sparta/Chremonidean League
    29. Pergamum
    30. Some sort of Pannonian faction? Or Illyrian?
    31. Rebels, of course.

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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    ...if the start date will be about 285 BC, just before the invasion of Phyrrus, the Etruscan League and the Samnite League were still alive in Italy ...so SPQR, Samnites and Etruscans of course!

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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    Another option would be to represent better "loose" factions (like GCS) if the superfaction settings have been improved...
    I'm sure there is more than a few people that would love to play as one of the greek city states, a single celtic/german/iberian tribe or (big stretch) a seleucid vassal state...
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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    I would suggest the factions that i would like to see... but the
    "31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?"
    Suggess this is aimed at the makers of EB2.

    As long as Syracuse and the Nubians are in i dont mind about the rest.
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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    Having 31 faction slots and filling these will take an awesome time to mod. Think of that there is still being worked on EB 8.0/1.0 and by the time we would have a descent mod release (also think of that there must be like 11 skins for every unit)we would be into somewhat another 1,5 year.

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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    Some would be easier than others. BUilding and unit descriptions for the Pergamene kingdom or syracuse or another german or another iberian faction would not vary too much from the ones of their 'sister-factions'. Different skins would be more time consuming. Some like the Numidians, Indians, Kush/Meroe, Lugians, Illyrians, etc. would certainly take longer.

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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    The only problem i would have is this. Lets consider greece, if we shove 5 factions into greece, basically in a few turns we just lost 3 or 4 factions. Its cool to have many factions, however, i rather have 2 semi-strong factions fighting and holding rome back than 4 weak factions who get wiped out 1 by 1. Perhaps having another italian faction to compete with the romans would be wise, as i do not know who was there at that time, i cannot give a specific faction. Im sure though, the EB team will think of something godly for us to play -Leon

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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    Well now with 31 nubia or aksum , your choice of course need representation .


    There is also a couple of indian factions you could do as well , or a southern arabian faction.

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    Default Re: 31 faction slots confermed! Whats the plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by scannerfish
    Well now with 31 nubia or aksum , your choice of course need representation .


    There is also a couple of indian factions you could do as well , or a southern arabian faction.
    As one guy said about Nubia/Meroe/Aksum. They would just have spearmen & bowmen. Unit roster done.

    Depends if we expand the map to cover more of India. All depends on what limits there are.


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