I'm not sure I like the medieval technologies of Civilization 6. It seems very vague, and not really researched into since the game spans from the Ancient to Modern Eras. I do like your other suggestions though!
Senator
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I'm not sure I like the medieval technologies of Civilization 6. It seems very vague, and not really researched into since the game spans from the Ancient to Modern Eras. I do like your other suggestions though!
Libertus
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in this mod I don't like map in 13 century kingdom of Abkhazia was not it was in kingdom of Georgia and the trabizon empire was Georgian ally
Alexandros
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Boob Plate
http://www.fscclub.com/history/armor-e.shtml
Alexandros
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Interesting...
http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_h...tional_art.htm
Domesticus
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I may have posted this on another thread i just cannot locate it... but it would be interesting too see Northumberland and the Percy family portrayed at some point in this mod..... as they were a powerful northern Dukedoms.
The House of Percy (old French Perci) were the most powerful noble family in northern England for much of the Middle Ages, having descended from William de Percy (d.1096), a Norman who crossed over to England after William the Conqueror in early December 1067, was created 1st feudal baron of Topcliffe in Yorkshire, and was rebuilding York Castle in 1070. The name derives from the manor of Percy-en-Auge in Normandy, the home of the family at the time of the Norman Conquest. Members have held the titles of Earl of Northumberland or Duke of Northumberland to this day, in addition to Baron Percy and other titles. In common with their rivals, the House of Neville, the Percy surname twice died out in the male line but was re-adopted by the husband of a Percy heiress and by their descendants. In the 12th century, the original Percy line was represented by Agnes de Percy, whose son by her husband Joscelin of Louvain adopted the surname Percy. Again in the 18th century, the heiress Elizabeth Seymour married Sir Hugh Smithson, who adopted the surname Percy and was created Duke of Northumberland.
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Civis
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I found some really good sources I wanted to share:
Chronicle from 1478-1483: http://www.e-codices.unifr.ch/de/thu...02/Sequence-48 just click on those pages.
Chronicle from 1484/85: http://www.e-codices.unifr.ch/en/thu...16/Sequence-50 I especially like this style of paintings, number of images: 339.
here is the table of contents: http://www.e-codices.unifr.ch/en/des.../Mss-hh-I0016/ it's in German.
Those two sources contain tons of images.
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Senator
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Some Questions:
- Were there Saqaliba formations serving the Ayyubid Sultans, or were they just included in and called as Ghulam and Mamluk?
- Did the Bahariyya Mamluks even ever fought at sea, or its just merely a name after their barracks location and they always fought on land? I get the impression that Mamluks were rather land-minded.
Laetus
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Hi Comrades!
Impressed by the work done on the modification. Great job!
I would like to offer help in the work on the mod. I have accumulated a large library of military history and uniformology. Mostly in English and Russian languages.
If you need any specific information, please let me know. I'll check what I can to help.
Remember to smile
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@Sly
15th century textile armours, often for lower level soldiers.
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An album of various 15th century textile armours: http://imgur.com/a/QQnSC
~Wille
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Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
Originally Posted by Finn
Remember to smile
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Portable guns
I've been requested to come with depictions of portable guns to diversify the current pool: "Handguns (High)" and "Handguns (Late)" which are based on a 15th century stick gun design, Swedish Stångbössa (Stick-gun). Link. As a refresher course, I'd also remind people of #160 and #161 of this thread for other gunpowder related info. All of the info below is thanks to the (deceased) Matchlock (Micheal) and his contribution at VikingSword's forum. Use the search function at their forum for further information. He has dedicated about 40 years on the subject, so it's a worthy reading in my opinion.
In the meanwhile, here's an amalgamation of relevant topics and pictures.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Further reading and digression:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
~Wille
Last edited by Kjertesvein; April 02, 2017 at 02:48 PM.
Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
Alexandros
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Interesting... so flamimng crossbow bolts and javelins?
Miles
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-ghulams refers to the sultans or caliphate guard in Baghdad and damascus but later in Egypt they called mamluks of the sultan of Egypt
-the bahryya mamluks mainly known as marines as the sultan najm-Eldin founded them in an island called rhoda on the river nile( as they lived in the Nile they called bahhriyya as marines but they were not there function job they were mele heavy cavalry and guards of the sultan)
-the mamluks are regiment they have cavalry ,infantry,archers,artillery they are not a unit they are an organization to defend the ruler of Egypt
-the mamluks consists of many many many... Nationalities most of them arabs ,Persian,Turks,berbers..etc
-the term mamluks mean loyal to the sultan not servant .as they have royal titles
-hope this helps out.
Ordinarius
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Wouldn't there already be matchlocks by the end of the 15th? The Paris one looks like an early matchlock.Portable guns
I've been requested to come with depictions of portable guns to diversify the current pool: "Handguns (High)" and "Handguns (Late)" which are based on a 15th century stick gun design, Swedish Stångbössa (Stick-gun). Link. As a refresher course, I'd also remind people of #160 and #161 of this thread for other gunpowder related info. All of the info below is thanks to the (deceased) Matchlock (Micheal) and his contribution at VikingSword's forum. Use the search function at their forum for further information. He has dedicated about 40 years on the subject, so it's a worthy reading in my opinion.
In the meanwhile, here's an amalgamation of relevant topics and pictures.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Further reading and digression:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
~Wille
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War Research Thread
Matchlocks became common during the second half of the 15th century, yes. For this mod, I would propose these types of early handgonnes:
1) The socketed variant, which was basically just a barrel on a long stick. The most primitive type of portable gun:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
2) The grooved variant with a more comfortable handle and a shorter barrel (Sometimes even with the handles like seen in gun 4):
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
3) Hooked handgonnes, the middle-thing between handgonness and hackbuts:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
4) Classical Hackbuts with sophisticated and comfortable handles, though still a rarity in the early 15th century:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
All these type coexisted through the 15th century, though socketed guns dissappeared during the 1470's, followed by the grooved handgonne. Hooked handgonnes and Hackbuts (Often both are put together as Hackbuts, through I would differ just because of the different handles) coexisted until the early 16th century, when they were finally replaced by the classical Arquebus with matchlocks, which, as said above, already developed during the late 15th century. The victory of the matchlocked Arquebus would also mark the beginning of standarized guns.
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Alexandros
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Hey Linux waitibg forward for your Alan research thread
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I am actually using Windows 7.
Might take a while, since I am still busy with some Wikipedia project and RL. However, the first half / quarter (Depending on the definition) can already be found HERE.
Remember to smile
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Although I'm no expert on it, the flaming crossbow bolts I've seen in those threads come from southern Germany (Bavaria and Switzerland).
@zsimmortal
Yes. According to Dr. Capwell, the last quarter of the 15th century.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistoria...d_the/cvlkmsl/
~Wille
Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
Laetus
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Hi,guys I'm historian making my masters degree in Turkey and I must say Hungarian unit card created so inelaborate also Seljuks Empire soldiers looks like Arabian I mean their facial type also they have too less units, If mod makers interested in I can help.
Miles
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War Research Thread
1, Most Hungarian unit cards are older than other factions' and so might seem a bit less elaborate. But look at the ones made recently (like the Hungarian Huszars) and you'll see that they're every bit as good as any other card, if not better.
2, The Seljuks that Ltd. made are using the "eastern" skin types which CA created mainly for the Sassanids, which is the best option I can think of.
3, The Seljuks (of Rum) are being worked on (by myself as it happens) and will feature a full roster of early, high, and late units, where the early roster will based on the Seljuks of Rum and the high and late rosters on the Ottomans
Laetus
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1- I saw them and they are much more realistic, but remember that Cuman/Kipchaks settled in southeast and eastern area of Hungary at that era so modders can add some Cuman units to Hungary also Hungarians mostly used curved bows like all other Turanid nomadic tribes and they were very good with that so u can increase the shots per min and horsemans should be like nomadic factions like their armor their look etc in early era but for high and late periods u can use European-crusader type armors.
2- Well Seljuks had brakisefal skull type (much more broad facial type) and you can use Turkomongol unit skin type with different mustaches (check attached pic)
3- Seljuk army can be seperated to 6 different parts
A- Gulam Soldiers- Elite Professional soldiers have very good armor
B- Hassa Soldiers (Elite Cavalry only) - Prepared to war in every minute members of Hassa gets fief for his life (they gets elite fertile lands only) they are like cataphracts.
C- Sipahis - (Cavalry only) - Mostly gathered up by Turcomans they get not so fertile fief lands for their work for their life time
D- Cilent state soldiers - You can add Kurd, Persian, Georgian, Armenian, Arabian unit cards for that part.
E- Military Governers & Boyars or Knights units, You can add a little bit better version of Cilent state soldiers also more Turkic or Turcoman unit cards.
F- Volunteers - For that part u can add Turkic horseman raiders or Ghazi like units
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