Moslem group Brutally Decapitates 14yr old Innocent Christian!

[VALIS]

(AINA) -- According to the Assyrian website ankawa.com, a 14 year old Christian Assyrian boy, Ayad Tariq, from Baqouba, Iraq was decapitated at his work place on October 21.
Ayad Tariq was working his 12 hour shift, maintaining an electric generator, when a group of disguised Muslim insurgents walked in at the beginning of his shift shortly after 6 a.m. and asked him for his ID.
According to another employee who witnessed the events, and who hid when he saw the insurgents approach, the insurgents questioned Ayad after seeing that his ID stated "Christian", asking if he was truly a "Christian sinner." Ayad replied "yes, I am Christian but I am not a sinner." The insurgents quickly said this is a "dirty Christian sinner!" Then they proceeded to each hold one limb, shouting "Allahu akbar! Allahu akbar!" while beheading the boy.


LINK: http://www.ankawa.com/forum/index.ph...c,62046.0.html


Thats the religion of peace for ya

[eltrevo]

can't read arabic.....

[Ahiga]

Alright, Islam isn't the religion of peace. You are going to agree that Christianity is not either, right? Because like you are saying Islam is nullified as a religion of peace by this execution of a poor little boy, as well as it's other violent actions this century, then thus, Christianity is nullified by it's violent acts in past centuries as a religion of peace.

Remember. If Christianity's violent past does not matter, then you cannot bring up Islam's violent past. Just as Christianity rose from it's fanatical, violent heritage during the dark ages, so too might Islam. You people however wish for it to switch on and off like a light bulb, and because it's not, consider it never will.

[Siblesz]

So, another person dies in Iraq? News?

[Ahiga]

So, another person dies in Iraq? News?

Because it was an innocent Christian victim (Instead of an innocent Muslim victim..as if those exist! ), the poster felt it was necessary to point out the violent nature of Islam today.


Because, you know, watching the news every day isn't enough of a show that Islamic Extremism is rampant.

[Manji]

Because it was an innocent Christian victim (Instead of an innocent Muslim victim..as if those exist! ), the poster felt it was necessary to point out the violent nature of Islam today.


Because, you know, watching the news every day isn't enough of a show that Islamic Extremism is rampant.

Yeah well, lots of Christian extremists here mate and I've never heard news about them going around chopping heads.
Eye for an eye seems to fit right in.... meh.

[VALIS]

emphasis on 'past' centuries,when you talk about christianity.When have any christians went around to a moslem and cut of his head for being a moslem in the past 20 years?

2nd.
christians arent the ones who run around saying 'we're a peaceful religion,we're a peaceful religion'

[Ahiga]

emphasis on 'past' centuries,when you talk about christianity.When have any christians went around to a moslem and cut of his head for being a moslem in the past 20 years?

2nd.
christians arent the ones who run around saying 'we're a peaceful religion,we're a peaceful religion'

First - Emphasis on the past centuries for us. In a hundred years or two, it might be the same way with Islam. That in the past, theirs was a violent religion and a violent land, but in 100-200 years, it might not be. It's hypocrisy for us to have accepted that we rose above our violent past, but refuse to look at the bigger picture and try to work towards Islam doing the same. Instead, it's just 'We should nuke all the ragheads' and 'Muslims aren't human like us westerners and far easterners.' (The irony being Africa often is even more violent than the Middle east, and the only reason we give a rats rear about the Muslim's violence is that it effect us, rather than effecting themselves as it is with Africa. Nobody makes a claim that it's the blood of the Africans which causes violence, when a lot of their conflicts are centered on tribal, regional, or cultural differences, yet in the case of Muslims, we consider their religion responsible).

How would we have seen the Muslims of the past if they sought to stamp out Christianity (They let it exist in their kingdoms, so no, they didn't try to at first) for it's more 'barbarian' nature under the western Europeans? This is what I feel a lot of you would like to say. We should stamp out Islam because of the extremists, or we should convert them to Christianity.

2nd - Well, they are silly to do so. Just as they are stupid to violently protest when we published the cartoons of Muhammad. Stupid followers, not necessarily a stupid religion. The extremists seek to gain public support by saying they are a religion of peace. Christianity I admit could be a religion of peace if it didn't base itself on the Old Testament, which I kind of feel is not really a peaceful book.

[Gladiator777]

First - Emphasis on the past centuries for us. In a hundred years or two, it might be the same way with Islam. That in the past, theirs was a violent religion and a violent land, but in 100-200 years, it might not be. It's hypocrisy for us to have accepted that we rose above our violent past, but refuse to look at the bigger picture and try to work towards Islam doing the same. Instead, it's just 'We should nuke all the ragheads' and 'Muslims aren't human like us westerners and far easterners.' (The irony being Africa often is even more violent than the Middle east, and the only reason we give a rats rear about the Muslim's violence is that it effect us, rather than effecting themselves as it is with Africa. Nobody makes a claim that it's the blood of the Africans which causes violence, when a lot of their conflicts are centered on tribal, regional, or cultural differences, yet in the case of Muslims, we consider their religion responsible).

How would we have seen the Muslims of the past if they sought to stamp out Christianity (They let it exist in their kingdoms, so no, they didn't try to at first) for it's more 'barbarian' nature under the western Europeans? This is what I feel a lot of you would like to say. We should stamp out Islam because of the extremists, or we should convert them to Christianity.

2nd - Well, they are silly to do so. Just as they are stupid to violently protest when we published the cartoons of Muhammad. Stupid followers, not necessarily a stupid religion. The extremists seek to gain public support by saying they are a religion of peace. Christianity I admit could be a religion of peace if it didn't base itself on the Old Testament, which I kind of feel is not really a peaceful book.

You all need to take a real look at wahhabism. That is what is corrupting Islam. All these fundamentalist schools that brainwash poor ignorant kids is educating them daily on the infidel, and how one can attain heaven with many virigins awaiting them. I wonder what awaits the women, I have never read about that. In any case, those schools need to be taken out, that would be a good start. They are doing what Hitler did, brainwashing the people into this radical belief.

[SigniferOne]

You all need to take a real look at wahhabism. That is what is corrupting Islam. All these fundamentalist schools that brainwash poor ignorant kids is educating them daily on the infidel, and how one can attain heaven with many virigins awaiting them.

Yes, the madrasa schools, the only type of schooling available in Saudi Arabia and a number of other major Middle Eastern countries. And you should see how much conviction the men have in their 72-virgin paradise. It's not a joke, as for us, they really believe it and care for it. Check out some letters that suicide bombers leave after they die, the heaven and the virgins and the holy destruction of evil infidels are things they very seriously care about.

[Fenris]

Thats the religion of peace for ya

Christianity's curriculum vitae is much neater than the muslim one. But if you talk about the spanish inquisition christian will say it's not representative of the whole people who follow this religion, which is absolutely true.

Just like some muslim jackass who behead people doesn't represent all the muslims. I hope you realise that every sixth person on the planet is muslim? That makes over a billion of them. So when a significant proportion of a billion people will make such acts, you will be allowed to make such claims as you did without looking like an imbecile.

christians arent the ones who run around saying 'we're a peaceful religion,we're a peaceful religion'

Huh? Last time I checked... yes. But again some people like to twist religion to justify their violent impulses (see my manifesto) which is the same thing forsome muslims, who probably don't claim themselves that Islam is a peaceful religion. Because in every religion people twist it to justify violence. But both islam and christianity, if you follow what the holy books says anyways, are peaceful religions.

[GeneralLee]

So? One more in a nasty civil war.

[MasterAdnin]

For those people who think Islam is to blame here, you are wrong again. Islam never, EVER says that an innocent person should be brutally murdered. Islam forbids the killing of civilians and the killing of people of the book, namely Christians and Jews.

I cannot stress this enough, Islam should not be judged by the actions of it's extremists, nor should Christianity or Judaism for that matter. In fact I feel that these so-called Muslims should be killed in the same manner that they killed the boy. It does not matter that he was Christian, he was a young boy who was innocent and had nothing to do with the war what-so-ever. Islam forbids this as well, the killings of innocents not involved in the wars. Wars are fought between governments and parties, not people.

Salaam,
Adnan

[sephodwyrm]

Can someone actually provide an English translation?

And how am I supposed to be surprised that the Arabs in Iraq are killing each other?
The only one that actually managed to put an end to this is now getting hanged.

[danzig]

Can someone actually provide an English translation?

And how am I supposed to be surprised that the Arabs in Iraq are killing each other?
The only one that actually managed to put an end to this is now getting hanged.

Yeah of course his solution was to kill them both, interesting you think that was somehow better? Lets see being killed because of your religion or being killed because Saddam's son wanted to bang your wife and you disagreed. Great choice!

[Sétanta]

In fact I feel that these so-called Muslims should be killed in the same manner that they killed the boy.

That sure is peaceful eh? Calling for more murder is not the way Christianity works, contrary to its Middle Eastern counterpart. You see, Jesus preached that the eye for an eye method will never work. Mahatma Ghandi said it best: "An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind." So, killing these killers does not ever, ever, ever, ever work. And if they aren't Muslims what are they?

[Ahiga]

That sure is peaceful eh? Calling for more murder is not the way Christianity works, contrary to its Middle Eastern counterpart. You see, Jesus preached that the eye for an eye method will never work. Mahatma Ghandi said it best: "An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind." So, killing these killers does not ever, ever, ever, ever work. And if they aren't Muslims what are they?

If it is Islamic terrorism, does it mean that Islam was what terrorized or that someone using/practicing Islam terrorized?

Let me put it this way, since you're Irish. The IRA was largely catholic? (I'm not sure). They attacked the Protestant British. Did that make it Catholic Terrorism?

I'm one for calling Islamic Terrorism what it is. This was terrorism by men who did it in the name of Islam, so it was Islamic Terrorism. However, I am making a point that if any Muslim commits a criminal act, it's considered fueled by Islam. The same holds true for history. We consider -every- conquest by a Muslim power in history to have been a Jihad. No exception.

[Sétanta]

If it is Islamic terrorism, does it mean that Islam was what terrorized or that someone using/practicing Islam terrorized?

Let me put it this way, since you're Irish. The IRA was largely catholic? (I'm not sure). They attacked the Protestant British. Did that make it Catholic Terrorism?

It is terrorism inspired by Islam. Their belief in Islam is what inspired them to preform the acts they have done, because the Koran does not condemn it the way moderate Muslims claim. The Koran contradicts itself in what is acceptable, when you have verses about peace and verses about violence (the sword verses).

The IRA is Catholic, yes. However, the Catholic faith is not what inspired those men to preform the actions they have done. It is mearly an identification tool, since most Nationalists in Ireland are Catholic. So you could say that its Nationalist Terrorism.

[MasterAdnin]

That sure is peaceful eh? Calling for more murder is not the way Christianity works, contrary to its Middle Eastern counterpart. You see, Jesus preached that the eye for an eye method will never work. Mahatma Ghandi said it best: "An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind." So, killing these killers does not ever, ever, ever, ever work. And if they aren't Muslims what are they?

I never said that Islam commands that those men should be killed, that is my opinion. Also, these people are Muslim only in name. They do not follow Islam correctly, nor do they follow was Islam has prescribed and preaches. The same holds true for Christianity. If a Christian commits mass murders for Christianity, I do not consider him Christian, he is going against the teachings of Christianity, going against his very morals and beliefs.

So as an agnostic/atheist who has doubts of God existing like Abrahamic faith has made him out to be could not be entirely shut out of heaven?

Yes, you do. If you are a good person and have faith in God and his basic teachings. God is forgiving and although I am not God, I am sure he will forgive many.

Of course, all of us found out about Islam already, so does that hold true if you essentially reject the Quran?

If you have read the Qu'ran, read the teachings in the Qu'ran, understood it, read the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (SAS), understood them, and reject them still, then you are an unbeliever.

Salaam,
Adnan

[Yosemite]

That sure is peaceful eh? Calling for more murder is not the way Christianity works, contrary to its Middle Eastern counterpart. You see, Jesus preached that the eye for an eye method will never work. Mahatma Ghandi said it best: "An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind." So, killing these killers does not ever, ever, ever, ever work. And if they aren't Muslims what are they?

If no one stop the killers, there will still be innocents killed (police should take care of them) . They killed INNOCENT people, that makes them non muslism. It's in the book. You musn't kill innocents. Or else it's hell. :hmmm: