Video game violence ect

[awisler]

whats your stand on video games leading to violence and all that. im 14 and ive been playing games since i was about 9 or so- starting with WW2 online, rogue spear, rainbow six, and medal of honor allied assault.

personally, i think it makes me think of more violent things because i play the games a lot that i just apply the things i see to it in real life, but by no means does it mean ill actually do it. like ill see a room and just think- oh that looks like level x in such and such, or see a gun in a movie and be like oh thats a .... kind of thing. personally i think it has given me a, wider range of vocabulary, but it hasnt made me ever want to just kill or hurt someone because i saw it in a video game.

personally i think it has helped me, playing all of the strategy games-cough total war cough-makes you really think, and by playing games online and messaging in forums such as these, your constantly reading and analyzing. i also memorize all the levels and weapons ect, which im sure most people do. this also helps with coordination and reflexes to an extent.

my reading on our national tests has been college level since 7th grade, and my history grades have always been around 98% or higher(now for that biology grade...well thats different ) for the past 4 years, i think it has helped. i know a lot about history and i can really analyze things and understand their meanings. yes online ive learned and you frequently hear all the swearing, but you also learn other actually more, i geuss educational, words.

P.S. dont think im lying about this helping reading and english skills ect because im just to lazy to take the time on boards for proper grammar, but when it comes to actually being graded its fine

[VALIS]

i know exactly what you mean,every time i play RTW,i just want to whip on my toga get my gladius out and attack some frenchies.......ahem i mean gauls and the hun!

and then ride around on my chariot causing havoc at my nearest tesco car park...muhahaha,that will teach the plebs to mess with me!

[awisler]

i know exactly what you mean,every time i play RTW,i just want to whip on my toga get my gladius out and attack some frenchies.......ahem i mean gauls and the hun!

and then ride around on my chariot causing havoc at my nearest tesco car park...muhahaha,that will teach the plebs to mess with me!

uh oh you mentioned RTW. 6oclock news here i come!


back on topic- i forgot to mention the effect from TV too. also garbarsardar-very interseting havent seen that info before

feel free to post any effects you believe it has had on you(like i did in my post)

[Garbarsardar]

The conection between TV/games, violence and criminal behaviour has never been substanciated in any definitive way.
Let me first quote from an excellent review of a great number of studies until 2003 (Savage, 2003)

...Of these, seven summary findings report a positive effect but three of those are for girls only. Four summary findings report a negative effect (more media violence, less violent behavior). Nine findings are null and three reflect an interaction such that viewing violence had a positive effect on those already high in trait aggression. On the balance, for boys, there appears to be no more evidence for a positive effect than there is for a negative effect of media violence on violent behavior. Although it could be the case that most of the studies missed the effect due to methodological limitations, it is not appropriate nor is it common practice to conclude that the effect must have been missed in those studies.

What is common practice is to evaluate the methodology of studies that report significant findings, see if there are rival hypotheses, and temper our conclusions to the extent that there are. Of the ‘‘high’’ and ‘‘medium’’ relevance studies reporting positive findings we find a time lag that was not prespecified, a matched design with potential for spuriousness, and a lack of control for prior aggressiveness—all very significant problems that without further study mitigate against our confidence in these findings. Of course this conclusion would be different if we accept the interpretations of the prospective cross-national studies provided by their authors, which have not been accepted at face value in this review.

Schramm, Lyle, and Parker (1961), in the very first lines of one of the first full-length studies of television and North American children, wrote that ‘‘No informed person can say simply that television is bad or that it is good for children. For some children, under some conditions, some television is harmful. For other children, under the same conditions, or for the same children under other conditions, it may be beneficial. For most children, under most conditions, most television is probably neither particularly harmful nor particularly beneficial’’. This early conclusion probably holds today. Unfortunately for the serious scholar, most published reviews and discussions of this topic frequently cite conclusions of authors without addressing the inadequacies of the research that produced them.

Here you can see the problems of those studies:

[sephodwyrm]

Video games has an ESRB rating on it that should be respected.
That's my take on it.

[Fianóglach]

MOst video games are tame compared to the crap that is on the news every evening, or even the stuff that goes on in the real world in some parts of Britain. I say let the kiddies kill people virtually, if your going to be a psychopathic killer, chances are a games wont be the reason, but all the other issues that have mucked up your peanut throughout life.

[Pnutmaster]

MOst video games are tame compared to the crap that is on the news every evening, or even the stuff that goes on in the real world in some parts of Britain. I say let the kiddies kill people virtually, if your going to be a psychopathic killer, chances are a games wont be the reason, but all the other issues that have mucked up your peanut throughout life.

This is what my friends and I always say when the 'correlation' between video games and violence is proposed. Blame Hollywood and the News while you're at it...

I am reminded of the movie Elephant (which a pinko-liberal friend suggested we watch out of boredom), and the scene featuring the school shooters playing a generic FPS -_-. Damn political agendas and embittered, Atari-deprived politicians.

[Manji]

Every piece of media shapes you in a way or another; I bet the readers of the first edition of "The Three Musketeers" must have gone "sacre bleu!, I wish I was a swashbuckling hero!" but the difference between "wanting to" and "doing" is a VERY big and based on one thing only: capability to discern right from wrong.
The whole idea that "videogames influence negatively" can be applied to all media, ALL, should we then ban people or impose restrictions? Restrictions, perhaps, I don't want my 8 year old being able to rent porn at will, but to ban is just retarded.
More, bad parenting is most of the times responsible for "freak accidents" than "bad videogames"; some parents don't give two cents about what do their children do online but when they go out to meet a rapist they met on myspace they immediately blame "the internet and videogames"; meh, hypocrites.

[Fenris]

I personally think it's all bullcrap.

[sephodwyrm]

Well, if its bullcrap then why do we have ESRB ratings?
Anyway, I think games should have IQ limitations.
People that have IQs too low and unable to differentiate gaming world from reality should be kept off.
You know how serious I am...
LOL

[Cluny the Scourge]

It's the truth, whenever I play RTW and ride down an entire army beneath my iron-shod hooves and shoot the stragglers for sport, it just gives me a rush to think of all that simulated suffering those frightened little people down on the screen are experiencing - winning in RTW makes me pump my fist up and down suggestively and shout "Show me the death - Give me that hot JUICE baby!"

[Freddie]

With games looking more and more like real life is it any wonder why we have laws against video games? Well I’m dead against the state interfering with as I feel it should be the responsibility of the parents who buy violent video games to make the choice of weather its suitable for a minor to play or not.

[John Wayne]

If we must blame the viewable forms of media, then we may as well just start blamming literary works as well. They are just as bad, if not more so, than the violence viewed on TV and in Video Games.

[MaximiIian]

Personally, I think the whole "violent videgames cause violence" thing preposterous bull-****ing-****. In reality, violent videogames most likely prevent real-world violence by providing for an individual a place where they can vent thier anger and take thier rage out on computer-controlled enemies. This safely fufills a homo sapien's natural bloodlust without resorting to physically harming a real person. Violent videogames stop violence usually. It's rare to find exceptions to this, and usually those that violently attack people regardless, are probably mentally ****ed-up anyway.

[Erik]

Personally, I think the whole "violent videgames cause violence" thing preposterous bull-****ing-****. In reality, violent videogames most likely prevent real-world violence by providing for an individual a place where they can vent thier anger and take thier rage out on computer-controlled enemies. This safely fufills a homo sapien's natural bloodlust without resorting to physically harming a real person. Violent videogames stop violence usually. It's rare to find exceptions to this, and usually those that violently attack people regardless, are probably mentally ****ed-up anyway.

I fully agree.

I have never felt more aggressive after playing a violent video game.
If anything I think violent videogames take violent kids off the street and stick them in a room where they can do very little harm.
And for evidence: Youth violence has DROPPED since videogames gained popularity.

The only thing that makes me more aggressive is Cola.
Sugar+caffeine=don't mess with me.
Why don't they put warnings on fussy drinks?

Video games has an ESRB rating on it that should be respected.
That's my take on it.

ESRB rating aren't scientific at all.
Why, for example, is sexual activity considered so much worst than graphical violence?
And notice that every country has it's own rating system.
I think those ratings are 99% BS, and only intended to satisfy mothers who want the government to tell them how to raise their children.
Why can't parents decide what's appropriate for their children to see/hear/play?

[awisler]

exactly, another good point. esrb ratings, people go 100% by them, i know people who cant a game rated teen(they arent yet teens) just because of its ratings. personally, parents need to judge by looking at what it is about, i mean if the game is like playboy mansion or whatever that game is, then yeah dont let them touch it, but if its like age of empires, whats it gonna do? oh i built a huge castle in age of empires and slaughtered another civilzation, ill do it in real life...

[RZZZA]

I think kids nowadays cant BE any more sheltered or pussified, to try and make them more so is terrible imo.


Personally, I'm for the Spartan act which proposes that we adopt a system whereby we chuck every newborn baby off a cliff and only accept into our society those who survive.

[harm]

Video games make me more violent. Movies don't because they are just spectator. Video games let me kill, plus I have a very very good imagination.

I am reminded of the movie Elephant (which a pinko-liberal friend suggested we watch out of boredom), and the scene featuring the school shooters playing a generic FPS -

that wasn't a generic first person shooter, a friend of mine told me that was a very popular white supremacist fps. (I can't remember the name though)

[Pnutmaster]

that wasn't a generic first person shooter, a friend of mine told me that was a very popular white supremacist fps. (I can't remember the name though)

If that's so, white supremacists have fairly low expectations when it comes to FPS :laughing:
(Or ancient Windows 95 computers).

[.Socrates]

The ESRB has become so strict with it's rating system it far surpasses that of movies, which are more leinent(sp?), much more.

In my opinion, it really depends on the child's age and their own psyche; their ability to tell if something is real or not.