[Official Submod] Vanilla Unit Cards for 1.0

[xisheng]

^ CA has a great art department, they always nail everything from concept art to the live game. I don't understand why people would prefer screenshots over carefully crafted pieces, but again as i said, to each is own. Dresden, if you can send me a message explaining why you have unit variants tables in the this pack, and how the mask part works, and provide me with the indicator used on the new merc and aor icons AND provide me with the vanilla icons for aor and merc units, i can take up the task on blending in the indicators into vanilla cards. For now, since you are busy, just filling the aor and merc cards with the vanilla ones will do since i want to just start and finish a campaign with the new version.

[Dresden]

Updated to hopefully fix some cards.

[xisheng]

Merc icons still not there, some aor too. Siege equipment also.

[itsM]

Ty Dresden for working at this submod. I noticed some icons still missing btw

[HarkonRules]

It's just eye-roll worthy when I see people saying "old cards are easier to identify units"... Like them better if you want, prefer that style, but that just isn't true, everything looks almost the same. Good job distinguishing between the roman infantry units including the socii, or better even, any sort of barbarian unit from one another playing as celtic factions.

For what it's worth the new ones look really good and much better to tell units from one another.

[Jin-]

It's just eye-roll worthy when I see people saying "old cards are easier to identify units"... Like them better if you want, prefer that style, but that just isn't true, everything looks almost the same. Good job distinguishing between the roman infantry units including the socii, or better even, any sort of barbarian unit from one another playing as celtic factions.

For what it's worth the new ones look really good and much better to tell units from one another.

I mostly refer to unit types (missile, melee etc...), not different unit quality etc... In new cards many of them have spears on them which makes them look like a spear cavalry/infantry (btw its awesome that some missile cavalry got spears)

[MuppetGank]

So is there a way (easy way) to tell what units are AOR and what is not with this?

Im playing Sparta and I'm finding this difficult.

[Dresden]

Units that are local that aren't normally in your core group. They have less morale usually.

Honestly, I love our new unit cards and believe their flag system, etc. works great in the mod. So, I have a hard time keeping this as a viable submod when I really think people should give the new ones a try and see if they get used to them. Change can often be hard but sometimes its for the better.

[MuppetGank]

Units that are local that aren't normally in your core group. They have less morale usually.

Honestly, I love our new unit cards and believe their flag system, etc. works great in the mod. So, I have a hard time keeping this as a viable submod when I really think people should give the new ones a try and see if they get used to them. Change can often be hard but sometimes its for the better.

The thing is im new to both rome 2 and DEI, Rome 2 vanilla is just so bad IMO, and this mod although in it's early stages is one of the best Ive played and I have played A LOT of TW mods.

But yeah I don't consider this an issue and would prefer if you and your team worked on more important things, plus the fact that this doesn't mess up saves means I can always switch when ever I want.

I'll be switching back to standard DEI cards simply for the reason so I can learn more about the AOR system.

So in short, I think this sub mod is low priority and should be treated as such, and also, what did you mean by core group?

[HarkonRules]

Honestly, I love our new unit cards and believe their flag system, etc. works great in the mod. So, I have a hard time keeping this as a viable submod when I really think people should give the new ones a try and see if they get used to them. Change can often be hard but sometimes its for the better.

Agree 100%. I love the new cards and it performs a representative function FAR BETTER than vanilla.

@ MuppetGank, this is actually one of the oldest and more worked on major mods, it's been in the making almost since Rome 2 came out.

[MuppetGank]

Agree 100%. I love the new cards and it performs a representative function FAR BETTER than vanilla.

@ MuppetGank, this is actually one of the oldest and more worked on major mods, it's been in the making almost since Rome 2 came out.

Yeah, i forget this game came out over a year ago, As I only just recently purchased it.

[cherryfunk]

Units that are local that aren't normally in your core group. They have less morale usually.

Honestly, I love our new unit cards and believe their flag system, etc. works great in the mod. So, I have a hard time keeping this as a viable submod when I really think people should give the new ones a try and see if they get used to them. Change can often be hard but sometimes its for the better.

I understand, but personally I too prefer the vanilla cards -- I guess I just prefer the abstract look over a more realistic style as it follows in the footsteps of Shogun II.

[xisheng]

Doubt that learning and getting used to are the issues here, well, at least they aren't for me, vanilla art style > indicators for mercs and aor. Anyway, if you wont update the submod let us know.

[Dresden]

When I get free time I will work on it. The problem is that 1) any future new units will be using our custom cards and will therefore have to be assigned vanilla cards of some type and 2) I am still busy working on various updates for the main mod.

[Dresden]

Factions have a core unit group that represents their historical roster. For example, legions for Rome after Marian reforms or hoplites for Athens. You can't recruit those units unless you have dominant culture in that area. You can always recruit local (AOR) troops.

[xisheng]

This isnt about representation, its about liking the vanilla art style more, everyone has their own preferences.

[Ognjen Todorović]

Lots of unit cards miss-match the units (Talking about un-edited DeI 1.03), is there a limited number of unit cards you can add in the game?
It's bugging me a bit, and if that is the case ill get this submod.

[xisheng]

This submod is working fine except that all the merc and agent icons are the new DeI ones, so that needs fixing.

[Dresden]

@Skitoritto Which units are mismatched? They all seem to be properly done for me in 1.03 (for our unit cards).

The mercs work for me...hmm...I will reupload it.

[Ognjen Todorović]

So far I have noticed Argrian Sell Swords, Rhodean Slingers, and gallic/celtic garison units.