The "I found stuff in the imperial campaign" thread

[selenius4tsd]

Was having a look through the imperial_campaign file that repman put up (Thx btw ).
I hope you dont mind me going through some of the stuff:

1. In descr_win_conditions.txt

aztecs
hold_regions Roman_Province
take_regions 45
short_campaign hold_regions ;Roman_Province
take_regions 15

papal_states
hold_regions ;Roman_Province
take_regions 100
short_campaign hold_regions ;Roman_Province
take_regions 80

slave
hold_regions Roman_Province Tenochtitlan_Province
take_regions 100
short_campaign hold_regions ;Roman_Province
take_regions 80

some difficult campaigns ahead for these fellas.. once they get modded in.

2. descr_events.txt

event plague black_death_hits
date 266
position 281, 163
position 258, 134
position 233, 117
position 278, 109
movie event/black_death.bik

event plague black_death_1
date 268
position 278, 101
position 258, 104
position 213, 92
position 216, 88
position 209, 73
position 230, 38
position 232, 76
and this list goes on and on...

Im glad to see that the black death will have a REAL effect in this game.

3. descr_strat.txt

show_dates_as_turns - Surely this could be changed so that it is in years? (Might make some people happy!)
rebelling_characters_active - changing this would do..?

Anyone else find anything interesting, post here. :original:

[Shadow_Imperator]

Aztecs must hold Rome Province...
I'd like to see those brave Jaguar Warriors swim the Atlantic!

[Al-Masri]

Will they still have famous generals in the campaign like Henry the Lion or Edward III as in the first game?

[selenius4tsd]

Will they still have famous generals in the campaign like Henry the Lion or Edward III as in the first game?

Not sure mate, but William the Conqueror is in from the start, so who knows. I know in the historical battles, much like RTW, famous generals are included.

On another point, more stuff in imperial_campaign file.
Repman made a mod so that it shows the turn count in years instead of turns, so i guess this is easily moddable.
Rebellious characters - Heretics and the like i guess.

Now, something I saw that opens possibilities:

In the RTW version of descr_strat.txt, it shows this:

character Flavius Julius, named character, leader, age 47, , x 89, y 82
traits GoodCommander 2 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GoodDefender 1 , PoliticsSkill 3 , GoodAdministrator 2 , etc.

Notice how for M2TW it now shows this:

character William, named character, male, leader, age 50, x 109, y 147
traits Factionleader 1 , GoodCommander 1 , Intelligent 2 , VictorVirtue 3 , PublicFaith 2 , BattleDread 2 , etc.

The difference? the 'Male' tag inbetween named character and leader. So, what are the chances that we may see female generals such as Joan of Arc in this game? Seems something the modders can work on. :original:

[The Mongol]

Not sure mate, but William the Conqueror is in from the start, so who knows. I know in the historical battles, much like RTW, famous generals are included.

On another point, more stuff in imperial_campaign file.
Repman made a mod so that it shows the turn count in years instead of turns, so i guess this is easily moddable.
Rebellious characters - Heretics and the like i guess.

Now, something I saw that opens possibilities:

In the RTW version of descr_strat.txt, it shows this:

character Flavius Julius, named character, leader, age 47, , x 89, y 82
traits GoodCommander 2 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GoodDefender 1 , PoliticsSkill 3 , GoodAdministrator 2 , etc.

Notice how for M2TW it now shows this:

character William, named character, male, leader, age 50, x 109, y 147
traits Factionleader 1 , GoodCommander 1 , Intelligent 2 , VictorVirtue 3 , PublicFaith 2 , BattleDread 2 , etc.

The difference? the 'Male' tag inbetween named character and leader. So, what are the chances that we may see female generals such as Joan of Arc in this game? Seems something the modders can work on. :original:

Very interesting. Nice find.

[Sitarus Originalus PM-30+]

how can aztecs take 45 regions??? .... do they have proper technology to cross the atlantic?

[Mythos]

how can aztecs take 45 regions??? .... do they have proper technology to cross the atlantic?

Are they even playble? Maybe the condition is so that they have next to zero chances of winning.

[sporkyness]

they arent playable in the campaign

[selenius4tsd]

they arent playable in the campaign

Yes, theyre not playable in THE VANILLA CAMPAIGN.

However, once modded, they will be! So everybody's happy now.

[sporkyness]

only way i see them getting to europe is by hiring mercenary ships.... would be fun to see the aztecs rampage through europe though

[selenius4tsd]

only way i see them getting to europe is by hiring mercenary ships.... would be fun to see the aztecs rampage through europe though

Sure, sure! From the files that were posted by repman (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67451), you can see that in the regions map it clearly shows that some of the American settlements would have the opportunity to build ports. Only thing is, would THE AZTECS have the technology to build a port? Otherwise, should be fairly easy to mod in.

[Sylver]

only way i see them getting to europe is by hiring mercenary ships.... would be fun to see the aztecs rampage through europe though

They'd all get small pox and die.

If theres a trigger for that in the game..

[the Black Prince]

rebelling characters active

two possible ideas for that i can think of
rebel generals in terms of brigands etc. in RTW you occasionally saw a brigand group commanded by a generals bodyguard unit, with a properly named character.

or possibly something linked to civil wars

[Roy1991]

rebelling characters active

two possible ideas for that i can think of
rebel generals in terms of brigands etc. in RTW you occasionally saw a brigand group commanded by a generals bodyguard unit, with a properly named character.

or possibly something linked to civil wars

Or maybe you own family members/generals can rebel? (Like in BI)

[Helarxe]

Did you notice the Arguin resource, in the province with the same name? Any idea what it's for?

[Miraj]

If you read the "campaign_script" file you will notice that the Aztecs are frozen until the moment the first mainland factions "discover" them. So the the Aztecs essentially just sit there totally frozen with three or four stacks until you or the computer discovers them. They just threw in the victory condition probably just cause they had to. So they picked an impossible one.