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    I think about a little point. In Empire Total War, they added the revolution mechanic, well I don't want to talk about that, but about the fact that the name of the nations was the same in every situation, for example a monarchic name with a republican government.

    What I want to say, is that could be nice add something to change the name to the factions, for example with Rome. I think in Attila should be an event that trigger if one of the roman faction conquer the other, or one of the roman faction is wiped out. If WRE for example is destroyed, ERE should change the name to Roman Empire, and viceversa. Also WRE and ERE not should be able to spawn again through rebels if destroyed, and there should be only local successor states. (Maybe one of those could form Rome, in both WRE, ERE or Roman Empire were destroyed)

    The could add something so cool? In my opinion this can made the campaign more interesting and with more flavour. In Rome II I hate the fact that as Octavian I can't reunify rome, and the fact that Carthage can spawn again also after centuries like nothing happened.

    I don't want to say also that the Sassanid should change name if in the ruler is of another dinasty (I think is a thing that can happen in the game, but i'm not sure), but at least the thing about Rome should be done, instead to have the same factions for centuries, without an evolution based on the context, like happen in Augustus campaign, where you are called Marc Antony Rome, even if defeated all other roman factions.

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    Hmmm, interesting but a little unnecessary I think. It would be cool but not a game changer
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    Exactly, but in a game when the gameplay is every time at risk, this little things, doable in a little time, could be added at least.
    I'm aware of that, is not a game changer, is obvious in the same moment a start to write, is not necessary point it out every time , say that is not a game changer mean also "no reason to add that" for a developer, but I think instead that a game is also flavour. And if you see Rome II, is a bad game also becouse lack of flavour. Also I think that as event something about gameplay could be added after that, like modifiers in relations beetween romans and barbarian kingdoms .

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    I second this. Even in Rome 2 GC when your name can switch from Rome to Roman Empire if you choose that route. would be the same concept. I think there should also be some added bonus if you manage to defeat the other Roman faction and conquer its lands. a Restitor Orbis bonus or something lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedGuard View Post
    I second this. Even in Rome 2 GC when your name can switch from Rome to Roman Empire if you choose that route. would be the same concept. I think there should also be some added bonus if you manage to defeat the other Roman faction and conquer its lands. a Restitor Orbis bonus or something lol.
    Are you sure it changes? If so then cool. Rather than being something you edit yourself maybe it should be something automatic. How about when one of the Empires is destroyed the other one Just reverts back to the "Roman Empire" or "Byzantine Empire".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebidee View Post
    Are you sure it changes? If so then cool. Rather than being something you edit yourself maybe it should be something automatic. How about when one of the Empires is destroyed the other one Just reverts back to the "Roman Empire" or "Byzantine Empire".
    pretty sure. I remeber it changing but then again I haven't fought a civil war in a long time since I have a mod that disables it, and I'm not sure if I had any mods then that would have renamed anyone. I'm pretty sure it changes if you choose empire. If you stay republic then it stays just "Rome" I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebidee View Post
    Are you sure it changes? If so then cool. Rather than being something you edit yourself maybe it should be something automatic. How about when one of the Empires is destroyed the other one Just reverts back to the "Roman Empire" or "Byzantine Empire".
    It should revert to the Roman Empire. ERE never ever used term "Byzantines"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwirbaum View Post
    It should revert to the Roman Empire. ERE never ever used term "Byzantines"
    Didn't they become the Byzantine Empire later?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebidee View Post
    Didn't they become the Byzantine Empire later?
    They continue to style themselves Roman until 1453, even if greek became the official language in the VI-VIIth centuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebidee View Post
    Didn't they become the Byzantine Empire later?
    Byzantine Empire is a term used by historians, to define the roman empire after he renounced to reconquer the west and become more greek than cosmopolite, and latin was out of question.

    So yes, if the West of the East are destroyed, who survive should become "Roman Empire"

    In theory should exist also some kind of mechanic to unify the title also without war (maybe marriage) but maybe is too much for a total war game, actually the simple thing I want is a reunified title if one the two empires is destroyed, and some cool things could be some bonus to try to reconquer the ares of the part destoyed a gothic war could be cool (also as mini campaign and not only a internal mechanic of the grand campaign.)

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    Changing the name of a faction exists in Rome II, so it is completely feasible for it to be in Attila. This happened when a barbaric faction made a confederation. Arevaci would become Celto-Iberian Confederation, Odrysian Kingdom is Daco-Thracian Confederation, Suebi becomes Germanic Confederation and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokern View Post
    Changing the name of a faction exists in Rome II, so it is completely feasible for it to be in Attila. This happened when a barbaric faction made a confederation. Arevaci would become Celto-Iberian Confederation, Odrysian Kingdom is Daco-Thracian Confederation, Suebi becomes Germanic Confederation and so on.
    Good point.

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    If the WRE or ERE don't get to claim the title of Roman Empire after defeating or uniting with the other then it would be a joke.
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    The way through war is natural, the way throug diplomacy is another story.

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