A Gun Violence PSA sparks controversy.

**Hetman Khmelnytsky** · December 23, 2014, 04:31 PM

Probably someone already posted this, but there's this gun violence PSA that is receiving controversy as it encourages children to bring guns to school. In my view, this PSA is ****ing ridiculous. What do you guys think?

**Dr Zoidberg** · December 23, 2014, 07:46 PM

I get what they're trying to achieve, but Christ Almighty, encouraging kids to bring weapons to school - even if it is to hand them in - is just a recipe for disaster.

**chilon** · December 25, 2014, 01:25 PM

That can't be real.

**Costin_Razvan** · December 25, 2014, 10:09 PM

It is real. It's downright moronic.

**Thanatos** · December 25, 2014, 10:23 PM

What would have happened in real life is that the teacher would have freaked out, SWAT would have been called, and that kid expelled and with a possible brand-new criminal record now permanently following him for the rest of his life. It also makes the assumption that a teacher at a school is not going to be a barely-qualifying guy or gal who 1) knows how to act around firearms, and 2) know how to react in this situation.

What a stupid PSA.

**IlluminatiRex** · December 25, 2014, 11:17 PM

What I expected: Parents, lock your guns up safely.
What I got: Gun smuggling.

**Phier** · December 26, 2014, 12:23 AM

While I had to search since that video is marked private, its just stupid enough to be believable as something from the more fringe anti-gun crowd thinking. Awesome way to get some viral publicity for whoever made it I guess.

Also I'm not sure why hes afraid of having an airsoft gun in his house

**Thanatos** · December 26, 2014, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Phier

While I had to search since that video is marked private, its just stupid enough to be believable as something from the more fringe anti-gun crowd thinking. Awesome way to get some viral publicity for whoever made it I guess.

Also I'm not sure why hes afraid of having an airsoft gun in his house

You better watch out man, those .177 cal plastic air pellets are dangerous! You'll put someone's eye out with that!

**~~sabaku_no_gaara~~** · January 06, 2015, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Thanatos

You better watch out man, those .177 cal plastic air pellets are dangerous! You'll put someone's eye out with that!

Air guns shoot metallic pellets, I actually have one, it shoots these types:

you also have these types:

You could really wound someone with these, in the Netherlands air guns are illegal for instance. In Belgium not, when a Dutch friend visited me he bought one here, but Police in the Netherlands confiscated it

**Thanatos** · January 06, 2015, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by sabaku_no_gaara

Air guns shoot metallic pellets, I actually have one, it shoots these types:

You could really wound someone with these, in the Netherlands air guns are illegal for instance. In Belgium not, when a Dutch friend visited me he bought one here, but Police in the Netherlands confiscated it

Air guns can also shoot plastic pellets, if the gun itself was made for that. You may be incredulous, but both iterations exist.

I'm also aware that guns are dangerous, as I regularly teach people about gun safety, and any missile-based weapon that has any kind of actual power propelling said missile should be treated with caution. However, the American CDC has stated that between 2001 and 2011, only 209,981 people were "injured" nationwide. That's ten years, stretching out across all 50 states and every single tiny territory and island that the USA possesses, and that's for any kind of injury, whether it be something serious to the smallest possible indentation into the skin that somebody reported.

Air pellet guns certainly should not be taken as a joke safety-wise, but let's not start pretending as though they're blowing out eyeballs left and right.

**Simon Cashmere** · December 31, 2014, 10:51 PM

The biggest danger from airsoft guns is pointing them at someone who has a real gun to shoot back with.

**Phier** · January 06, 2015, 04:24 PM

My kids have BB guns, my 7 year old girl has a cute pink one.

Deal with it.

**justicar5** · January 08, 2015, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by Phier

My kids have BB guns, my 7 year old girl has a cute pink one.

Deal with it.

That's cool.

**mrmouth** · January 06, 2015, 06:15 PM

Took forever to talk my mom into buying my my Red Ryder from Kmart. Despite the military tradition in may family, my father got rid of the rifles he had shipped back home from Vietnam when my older brother was born. Just one less thing to worry about. I guess my feelings on guns in civilized society essentially come from the house I grew up in that was fiercely military and fairly conservative, yet somehow managed to survive without a gun. There was no need and only potential drawbacks. Those types of conservative American households still exist but, they are rare.

**Phier** · January 06, 2015, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by mrmouth

Took forever to talk my mom into buying my my Red Ryder from Kmart. Despite the military tradition in may family, my father got rid of the rifles he had shipped back home from Vietnam when my older brother was born. Just one less thing to worry about. I guess my feelings on guns in civilized society essentially come from the house I grew up in that was fiercely military and fairly conservative, yet somehow managed to survive without a gun. There was no need and only potential drawbacks. Those types of conservative American households still exist but, they are rare.

My family has never needed life insurance either. Obviously we should have saved money on them. My father has had a shotgun since before I was born, hasn't been fired in 30 years, somehow we survived with such a deadly weapon in the house

See what people tend to do is say "my family didn't need it so YOURS doesn't either". Personally I never asked them what my family needs.

**mrmouth** · January 07, 2015, 02:55 PM

You apparently took that fairly personal. Wasn't addressed at anyone in particular.

And yes, you lived in a household with a gun and nobody was a victim, defying obvious statistics that are higher than the chance of your father needing to use that shotgun to defend his family. While I lived in a household that weighed the chances of needing to use it against the greater chance of an accident.

Two different paths to the same result. Only difference is I was never at risk of an accident. That is the household I would want my kids to grow up in. That is the society I would like to live in. That is indeed the society that the overwhelming majority of people on the planet, want to live in.

The one thing you will note is that people tend not to actually tell you how to raise yours, despite you thinking that they do. That did not happen in this case, either.

**Phier** · January 08, 2015, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by mrmouth

You apparently took that fairly personal. Wasn't addressed at anyone in particular.

And yes, you lived in a household with a gun and nobody was a victim, defying obvious statistics that are higher than the chance of your father needing to use that shotgun to defend his family. While I lived in a household that weighed the chances of needing to use it against the greater chance of an accident.

Two different paths to the same result. Only difference is I was never at risk of an accident. That is the household I would want my kids to grow up in. That is the society I would like to live in. That is indeed the society that the overwhelming majority of people on the planet, want to live in.

The one thing you will note is that people tend not to actually tell you how to raise yours, despite you thinking that they do. That did not happen in this case, either.

You just told me how to raise mine.

Added my state just overwhelming voted for concealed carry, so its not the society that the overwhelming majority here want to live in.