Too big cities!

[Emasparrow]

Ehi!
Great work team!
I only want to ask if (in future or right now... ), you think you can reduce territory occupied by cities!
I really hate to see Rome big like all Lazio!

[FlashHeart07]

Ehi!
Great work team!
I only want to ask if (in future or right now... ), you think you can reduce territory occupied by cities!
I really hate to see Rome big like all Lazio!

I believe that would require special modding tools to be able to mod the campaign map and this is not possible as CA have not released such tools for the community. Though I might be mistaken.

[romanlegion13th]

Its up to the mod devs to decide what that want to with the mod.
I dont see a problem with the sizes looks good tbh.

[suras333]

Me too, I think the cities are ok!

[geala]

In my opinion they are not ok at all. It was a very bad idea by CA to bow to graphics and forget practical aspects of the campaign map. Firstly there is a huge flaw in relation between the space occupied by the city and the rest of the region. Really unrealistic and plain ugly. It's an agrarian world, not the 22nd century AD with mega-monster-cities. Secondly I couldn't care less wether there are small cranes working and buildings growing etc. (in the next TW I demand small people wandering in the campaign map cities waving greetings to the player) but I'm annoyed by the big detours my stacks have to make to circumvent the cities. If possible stopping the city growth would be my first wish concerning the campaign map. However I get the feeling that it would be really difficult to change that.

[M@x1mus]

In my opinion they are not ok at all. It was a very bad idea by CA to bow to graphics and forget practical aspects of the campaign map. Firstly there is a huge flaw in relation between the space occupied by the city and the rest of the region. Really unrealistic and plain ugly. It's an agrarian world, not the 22nd century AD with mega-monster-cities. Secondly I couldn't care less wether there are small cranes working and buildings growing etc. (in the next TW I demand small people wandering in the campaign map cities waving greetings to the player) but I'm annoyed by the big detours my stacks have to make to circumvent the cities. If possible stopping the city growth would be my first wish concerning the campaign map. However I get the feeling that it would be really difficult to change that.

+1

[stevehoos]

In my opinion they are not ok at all. It was a very bad idea by CA to bow to graphics and forget practical aspects of the campaign map. Firstly there is a huge flaw in relation between the space occupied by the city and the rest of the region. Really unrealistic and plain ugly. It's an agrarian world, not the 22nd century AD with mega-monster-cities. Secondly I couldn't care less wether there are small cranes working and buildings growing etc. (in the next TW I demand small people wandering in the campaign map cities waving greetings to the player) but I'm annoyed by the big detours my stacks have to make to circumvent the cities. If possible stopping the city growth would be my first wish concerning the campaign map. However I get the feeling that it would be really difficult to change that.

Remember how giddy the CA Devs were about this "feature" in that rally point episode? It's a stark reminder about who we are dealing with making our game now.

[Emasparrow]

In my opinion they are not ok at all. It was a very bad idea by CA to bow to graphics and forget practical aspects of the campaign map. Firstly there is a huge flaw in relation between the space occupied by the city and the rest of the region. Really unrealistic and plain ugly. It's an agrarian world, not the 22nd century AD with mega-monster-cities. Secondly I couldn't care less wether there are small cranes working and buildings growing etc. (in the next TW I demand small people wandering in the campaign map cities waving greetings to the player) but I'm annoyed by the big detours my stacks have to make to circumvent the cities. If possible stopping the city growth would be my first wish concerning the campaign map. However I get the feeling that it would be really difficult to change that.

I really think the same thing!
I loved the way Rome: Total War was modded, hope same thing could be possible here!
In past I heard criticism for cities placement and now we have, summarizing, the same mistake because villages occupy a huge amount of territory.
Rome, for example, overlaps Veio, Ostia, Cerveteri and other important urban centers: this is unhistorical.
I know I am pedantic!

[super_newbie_pro]

In my opinion they are not ok at all. It was a very bad idea by CA to bow to graphics and forget practical aspects of the campaign map. Firstly there is a huge flaw in relation between the space occupied by the city and the rest of the region. Really unrealistic and plain ugly. It's an agrarian world, not the 22nd century AD with mega-monster-cities. Secondly I couldn't care less wether there are small cranes working and buildings growing etc. (in the next TW I demand small people wandering in the campaign map cities waving greetings to the player) but I'm annoyed by the big detours my stacks have to make to circumvent the cities. If possible stopping the city growth would be my first wish concerning the campaign map. However I get the feeling that it would be really difficult to change that.

+1 !!

[Linke]

I dont like the large cities but they arent gamebreaking.

[romanlegion13th]

True but if it's a lot of work then it's not game breaking,
So not worth the time it will take for the devs to fix it

We need proper mod tools

[Emasparrow]

True but if it's a lot of work then it's not game breaking,
So not worth the time it will take for the devs to fix it

We need proper mod tools

Understanded!
I only am a dreamer and considering the excellent work of DeI team I hope CA will release the proper tools to edit campaign map!

[Lanciarius_90]

Cities are oversize, for example Athens are bigger than entire Attica region. What is the point for regions then, if entire province is one big city? There is no place for using tactical movement, using natural barriers and strategic location (rivers, mountains).

[stevehoos]

Cities are oversize, for example Athens are bigger than entire Attica region. What is the point for regions then, if entire province is one big city? There is no place for using tactical movement, using natural barriers and strategic location (rivers, mountains).

If CA's plan was to have less sieges and more land battles, why did they do this? The bloating city element seems to have the opposite effect. Just another example of incongruent ideas racked with limited vision. Thank God for DEI, or I would never play this game.

Modding tools....

[Dynamo11]

The big cities are seriously stupid, I'm all for campaign representations of our cities expanding and having the actual buildings show up but, like others have said, having cities such as Rome be so disproportionately large that it affects gameplay is insanity.

[Ritterlichvon86]

You might want to post this concern on the official totalwar forums hosted by CA. If you want any effect about it, the only right place to get any change could be there.

On a personal note, I like the cities, and think they should have more custom little buildings designed with them. Regarding gameplay, they are indeed quite huge, but if it is your city moving across it will take zero movement points, ​the armies march right through them.

[Dresden]

I know the gameplay aspects aren't ideal but I actually like the larger cities. Just a preference of mine

But I understand how many hate it and also want it changed.