One King to Rule Them All (SS 6.4 Late Era) - Ventos Mustel Winner

[Mithridate]

Loose has already joined as Egypt, what is the problem with having Loose? I thought you guys shared a lot of ground after that restless hotseat over on .org.
I'd not worry about arguments here, Themzr is the admin so he is the one to deal with and Loose is literally being on the other side of the map from you.

I do not understand what the problem is

[themzr]

YuonYuon has powerfully voiced some strong reasons with me recently. As admin I must represent all the players in this hotseat of which Loose is currently not a member. I will deliberate whether or not he may join. If he wants to chat with me personally he can. Until then give me a few days.

[yuonyuon]

i have strong faith in Themzt that he will see clearly what is going wrong here.
And i like this HS to much already and i don t want people that just hit end turn button, quits or hold for no reason here

[Silenced Ape]

Tell me again. Why is Loose this bad man we shouldn't allow to join?
I can't say I have any experience with him. So please yuon, enlighten me would you?

[Mithridate]

Gaming staffers are bad people and you should feel bad for jumping to his defense!

Seriously though, I do not at all like demands made under threat of leaving if it is not done Yuon. As to why he should be kept out, I am all ears. Though I defer to Themzr's judgement even if I am of the opinion that Loose should be allowed to stay and play, perhaps there is some way you can accept Loose Yuon?

Some demands that you want met, like: Update us if you will be late on turns or always refer to Mithridate as "The lord of ponies"

[yuonyuon]

Gaming staffers are bad people and you should feel bad for jumping to his defense!

Seriously though, I do not at all like demands made under threat of leaving if it is not done Yuon. As to why he should be kept out, I am all ears. Though I defer to Themzr's judgement even if I am of the opinion that Loose should be allowed to stay and play, perhaps there is some way you can accept Loose Yuon?

Some demands that you want met, like: Update us if you will be late on turns or always refer to Mithridate as "The lord of ponies"

Man if he is playing like in AOH , ASH then i think explained everything.waiting for him 4-5 days and then he quits on booth , he could said that from the beginning that he don t have time for HS. well i blame him 100%for destroying these two HS and i don like to happen here too. as a GS member is not cool.

[Silenced Ape]

So he delayed a HS for 4-5 days? That ruined the HS's?
Tell me more and be more accurate if there is something I didn't follow.

[Loose Cannon]

So he delayed a HS for 4-5 days? That ruined the HS's?
Tell me more and be more accurate if there is something I didn't follow.

Yes I'm a bad, bad man because I found a problem with the mod used in AoH (CCM2 Hotseat mod). I voiced my concerns in the thread and we started discussing (at least Vipman and I did) how to fix it. Most of the rest don't seem to care that there is no sense playing on with a broken game. When 2 superior armies attack one army (and have odds better than 2:1) but lose as many if not more men then don't you realize something is wrong? Battle results like that means something is broken and there is no reason to play on.

In ASH, the situation was this. Yuonyuon, me, and 2 other players were supposed to be allied in common cause against Totalwar_legend (as fatimids). Yuonyuon in his typical hasty rush decided to start the war early. That's when the other 2 showed that they had no spines and left us hanging. Yuonyuon decided after a few battles to bail on me and sign a ceasefire/NAP. That left me alone. I had already realized that it's not the money problem that hurts the Mongols in a SS hotseat but instead the fact that they can't recruit anything above a peasant any where outside of a fortress. TW-L destroyed my lead army advancing on him and that left me in a hopeless position. He already had 4x the size of the number 2 faction as he used his knowledge of cheats to destroy the Crusader and Turkish AIs. I would then be spending the final 10 turns of my factions exsistance in that game being overrun. If I accepted TW_L's peace offer (see screen shot) I'd have had one region left. Whoop tee do He had over 40 regions on turn 13 when the victory condition was 60 regions. PLEASE PROVE TO ME HOW STUPID YOU ARE BY THINKING I SHOULD HAVE CONTINUED? This game was over when those two failed to back us.

Invicta disappears without a word leaving games hanging but as soon as he comes back, people climb all over themselves to play with him? And I'm treated like this?

[yuonyuon]

Yes I'm a bad, bad man because I found a problem with the mod used in AoH (CCM2 Hotseat mod). I voiced my concerns in the thread and we started discussing (at least Vipman and I did) how to fix it. Most of the rest don't seem to care that there is no sense playing on with a broken game. When 2 superior armies attack one army (and have odds better than 2:1) but lose as many if not more men then don't you realize something is wrong? Battle results like that means something is broken and there is no reason to play on.

In ASH, the situation was this. Yuonyuon, me, and 2 other players were supposed to be allied in common cause against Totalwar_legend (as fatimids). Yuonyuon in his typical hasty rush decided to start the war early. That's when the other 2 showed that they had no spines and left us hanging. Yuonyuon decided after a few battles to bail on me and sign a ceasefire/NAP. That left me alone. I had already realized that it's not the money problem that hurts the Mongols in a SS hotseat but instead the fact that they can't recruit anything above a peasant any where outside of a fortress. TW-L destroyed my lead army advancing on him and that left me in a hopeless position. He already had 4x the size of the number 2 faction as he used his knowledge of cheats to destroy the Crusader and Turkish AIs. I would then be spending the final 10 turns of my factions exsistance in that game being overrun. If I accepted TW_L's peace offer (see screen shot) I'd have had one region left. Whoop tee do He had over 40 regions on turn 13 when the victory condition was 60 regions. PLEASE PROVE TO ME HOW STUPID YOU ARE BY THINKING I SHOULD HAVE CONTINUED? This game was over when those two failed to back us.

Invicta disappears without a word leaving games hanging but as soon as he comes back, people climb all over themselves to play with him? And I'm treated like this?

Trust me that , fernandez ,me, vipman and Durex want to continue the game , but you didn t post any message for a week you just keep the save and give us no answer , i consider this very offensive for a GS even some players give you allot of PM and bumps.not to mention you are late 3- 4 days every time.

in ASh all players admit that they lose interest after you let us down , you could play for a little while you still got 3-4 stack of ELITE UNITS AND &_* STAR general +6 mov .this discussion is ridiculous.

I relay like you but if you don t have time for HS why you have to do this.

And if you asking that is related with BFE and FAtE , well yes it is . you made me hard time there(BFE). very sorry for all this !

[Uriyaca]

Wowowowow guys, what an extreme exagguration, jeez. Let Loose join, and stop crying
Playing the turn now, could've played it like 7 hours ago but didn't notice . Sorry about that

Edit: Save has been sent to Loose Cannon, because the save was without a password

[yuonyuon]

Yeah let Loose playing , now at least he know how disappointed i m.
Lets continue i hope its going to last.

[Mithridate]

Yeah let Loose playing , now at least he know how disappointed i m.
Lets continue i hope its going to last.

well having Lose as your enemy its suits you perfectly , i don t see a problem for you at all. ofc you want him "playing"

You have some valid concerns I think but I for one have a very hard time not getting angry and biased when you say things like that. I'm glad you're satisfied and hope we'll all get along just fine from now on ( regardless if loose is still Egypt or not).

Loose, saying "prove to me how stupid you are" is in violation of TWC RoC and such behavior does not belong here - I second your post though.

[Dr Mac]

Sorry yuon, you know that you're my bro. But I'm with Loose on this one. I personally think that the Mongols should've been AI in ASH, but it was at TWLs request that they existed. As for Loose's HS record, it predates my own so I have no qualms about him being Fatimids, perhaps he can give mith a run for his money

[themzr]

Excuse me uri but did I not say it was at my discretion whether or not he can join. I will have my answer sometime tonight.

[Uriyaca]

Excuse me uri but did I not say it was at my discretion whether or not he can join. I will have my answer sometime tonight.

Comon, I'm not up for waiting to find another player right now. That would be annoying

[yuonyuon]

Dont worry about that

"prove to me how stupid you are"

, lets play the game .looks like there is no other way.

if i was wrong then i m stupid.

Loose is your turn !!

[Loose Cannon]

Byzantium up!

[Mithridate]

I've been told to hold my turn

[themzr]

Ok after long deliberation and sudden insight it had become apparent to me that Loose cannot join this hotseat. The turn he has played stands so that this hotseat can progress, but the change of playership won't be considered as Loose shouldn't be allowed to play in this hotseat. While there are a plethora of credible reasons for my verdict. The only one that needs said is that whether it is his knowledge or not, Loose has the admin password. I pm'd it to him around turn 1/before it started to ask him to help set up the .cfg file. Regardless of whether or not he remembers it is irrelevant and at this point moot. I would rather be safe than sorry and the search for a new egypt player continues...

[Loose Cannon]

Ok after long deliberation and sudden insight it had become apparent to me that Loose cannot join this hotseat. The turn he has played stands so that this hotseat can progress, but the change of playership won't be considered as Loose shouldn't be allowed to play in this hotseat. While there are a plethora of credible reasons for my verdict. The only one that needs said is that whether it is his knowledge or not, Loose has the admin password. I pm'd it to him around turn 1/before it started to ask him to help set up the .cfg file. Regardless of whether or not he remembers it is irrelevant and at this point moot. I would rather be safe than sorry and the search for a new egypt player continues...

It wasn't the cfg file it was describ_strat

This is so unfair I protest!! None of those other reasons are legal the Emperor of the Universe so declares.

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I had tested the password you gave when you asked me to help set this up and it didn't work

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probably because I can't type It works today but I had forgotten completely about it.

I refuse to be treated like this!! I quit!!