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    Default Why no princesses?

    Having played this very fine mod for over two years now, I need to ask something: why are there no princesses? Certainly marriages between prominent families of civilized peoples takes places in the Warhammer universe, so why aren't princesses available for use?
    Last edited by vonVince; December 20, 2014 at 09:39 AM.

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    Vossie's Avatar Decanus
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    Default Re: Why no princesses?

    No diplomacy in this mod. Princesses would just complicate things.
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    Default Re: Why no princesses?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vossie View Post
    No diplomacy in this mod. Princesses would just complicate things.
    There is diplomacy between the allied factions that constitute the Conclave of Light: I was referring to princesses for these factions.
    Last edited by vonVince; December 20, 2014 at 07:03 AM.

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    Vossie's Avatar Decanus
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    Default Re: Why no princesses?

    There is not, only scripted diplomacy.
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    Default Re: Why no princesses?

    There is. I am playing as Reikland and I am using a diplomat to conduct diplomacy with my allies.

    Edit: I did some testing. I enabled princesses for all Conclave of Light factions with the exception of dwarfs and high elves, and they work just fine - heck, princesses even have their own Warhammer character icons instead of normal Medieval II icons - princesses were clearly supposed to be enabled in the mod at some point.
    Last edited by vonVince; December 20, 2014 at 10:25 AM.

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    Default Re: Why no princesses?

    I'm talking about being able to make alliances or even conduct any form of diplomacy with neutral/enemy factions.

    There is no diplomacy in this mod for the exception of being able to break alliances or conduct small forms of diplomacy with your allies.
    Scripted events make alliances. ( Note: All empire factions/Dwarf/High Elf/Border Princes will be allied via a scripted event after every turn. )

    For the princesses there is no real need for them as the alliances are formed through scripted-events and declaring war on any empire faction will result in you being allied with them at the end of the turn again.

    I'm not sure about the future of diplomacy.. I don't think they will expand on it because the mod is very Lore true.
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    Default Re: Why no princesses?

    Yeah, not sure what they would be canon wise? Mechanics wise they are just diplomats, with the exception you could get potential problems them marrying to other races, and such. Inquisitors would make more sense to me, hunting down those who are unpure to serve Sigmar, if agent would be added in.

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    Default Re: Why no princesses?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vossie View Post
    There is no diplomacy in this mod for the exception of being able to break alliances or conduct small forms of diplomacy with your allies
    .....which is diplomacy no matter how you put it (I know how the alliance scripting works), and for this diplomacy princesses work just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kahvipannu View Post
    Yeah, not sure what they would be canon wise
    Princesses can get you generals (when a non-leader/heir from another faction marries your princess he will become part of your faction) through marriage, and can be used as emissaries akin to diplomats, and this works just fine. Other than that, call it adding extra flavor if you will; I call it a touch of roleplaying (and I do like certain amount of roleplay with my faction when I play).
    Last edited by vonVince; December 21, 2014 at 01:16 AM.

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    Default Re: Why no princesses?

    Yeah I'm not saying I'm against them mechanically, but I still don't understand what they would be WH-wise. Like, princesses in M2 doing diplomacy makes sense, but Empire factions in WH, is there "role" they would fit? Again, canon wise, mechanics aside.

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    Default Re: Why no princesses?

    Most factions have quite small family trees. There wouldn't be a whole lot of marrying to do.

    Also there could be problems with script-spawned special characters getting hijacked by random princesses and causing all sorts of weirdness.

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