Can't build Blacksmith or Shieldmaker as Massalia

[Christofferson]

I have built a workshop and now only have the option to build a siege engineer workshop, but not a blacksmith or shieldmaker. I need access to these to bolster my troops weapons / armor against the barbarian hordes, yet I can't find anywhere how to make them. I've looked in the tech trees and don't see any pertaining to either of these buildings, only the siege version of the workshop.

I'm guessing that the workshop can't be built in a capital city to have the option for the blacksmith and shieldmaker, and instead needs to be built in one of the other settlements of the province. Is this the case? I really don't want to tear down the workshop if it's something else.

[Christofferson]

Excuse me, Massilia*

[Augustusng]

Excuse me, Massilia*

Is that the correct spelling? I've seen both spellings in-game and in other sources, and can't decide which to use...

[Hoplitus]

Is that the correct spelling? I've seen both spellings in-game and in other sources, and can't decide which to use...

Good question! I don't know either...but I think both is correct.

Edit:

Quick search tells me that indeed both is correct! Wikipedia says so and this I found on a french forum about the same topic:

"Alors Massalia correspond au nom grec
et Massilia au nom donné à l'époque romaine."

My vague french knowledge tells me that Massalia comes from the greek while Massilia from the roman epoch/language!

[Augustusng]

Nice find, that does make some sense. I just wish there was a better source than some French forum about it.

[Hoplitus]

Nice find, that does make some sense. I just wish there was a better source than some French forum about it.

Thx man. Yes you're right I wish there be a better source too. Of course I don't know how trustworhty those guys over there are

Just in case somebody is interested and has better french knowledge than me : http://forums-enseignants-du-primair...a-ou-massilia/

@Christofferson:

All good mate
You just made another interesting point apparently more people were thinking about
Oh btw, you need 25 posts to be able to edit!

[Hoplitus]

Hey!

Yes both buildings have been removed. You now have to conquer either an iron or copper minor settlement to get the amor/weapon upgrade. These upgrades now come directly with these minor settlements. This was done along with the Emperor edition in order to give more emphasis on the resources. And it's same like in vanilla.

[Dresden]

Since Patch 15, the workshops have been removed and those upgrades are now found at iron/copper nodes.

[Christofferson]

Okay, thank you for the quick replies gentlemen!

[FlashHeart07]

The game says Massalain but the city is called Massalia or something like that

[Christofferson]

Forgive me for being a forum noob, but I don't know how to edit posts.

[Alu10]

Forgive me for being a forum noob, but I don't know how to edit posts.

couldnt edit as well when i was new, it is locked at least there wasnt a "edit post" thing until i had alot of posts.

[Christofferson]

couldnt edit as well when i was new, it is locked at least there wasnt a "edit post" thing until i had alot of posts.

Ohh okay, thanks!

[stalkingvengeance]

So to revive this, you have to actually OWN a region with these to be able to upgrade the troops? I'm importing copper and iron but i'm not getting anything else besides. if we can't get these upgrades by importing, is there really a point to importing it in the first place? Besides the basic trade revenue that is.

[Mark of Calth]

Certain other buildings eg nomad T3 stables require copper or iron. The blacksmith/shieldmaker is now in the village chain, not the workshop chain

[stalkingvengeance]

Ahh, alright. I'm still not seeing an option where the upgrades are specified, though. For villages I have those specializing in salt, wine, olive oil, and for Rome itself I have the garrison, trade, and regular Roman municipium. Maybe i'm just blind?

[Augustusng]

Right, you need a village specializing in either copper or iron. So as you said in that earlier post, you do have to own one of those cities. The resource you get through trade only enables you to build certain buildings.