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    Top European Union officials have sharply criticised a mass arrest of media representatives in Turkey.

    Foreign affairs chief Federica Mogherini and the commissioner heading EU enlargement talks said the arrests went "against European values".

    At least 24 people were arrested in police raids on a leading newspaper and TV station said to have close links with opposition parties.

    Those detained are accused of trying to seize control of the state.

    The Zamat newspaper and Samanyolu TV channel both have ties to US-based Islamic cleric Fethullah Gulen, the spiritual leader of the Hizmet movement

    A former ally of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Mr Gulen - who lives in self-imposed exile - is accused of running a "parallel state" within Turkey.
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    I don't know, it feels Turkey is more and more like Russia, perhaps explains why Putin wants to build a pipeline through Turkey.
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    Erdogan is moving more and more away from sanity.
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    In turkish there is a saying 'öküz öldü, ortaklık bozuldu" means the cow has died and partnership fell...

    None of these 'free press loving journalists' were disturbed when people went to prison with no evidence or planted evidence. They were all over erdogan. Always manipulating stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cenkiss View Post
    None of these 'free press loving journalists' were disturbed when people went to prison with no evidence or planted evidence.
    The accuse AKP uses this time is rather weird, since I don't understand what "running parallel state" means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    The accuse AKP uses this time is rather weird, since I don't understand what "running parallel state" means.

    It means resting all the blame of 10 years on these people. He is trying to create a situation where innocent akp people were manipulated by these evil gulen cultists. And these gulen cultists stole from the government and tried to ruin it with their wicked ways etc. They are just trying to come out completely clean in voters' eyes.

    Many other times akp did not even accuse people of something before arresting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    The accuse AKP uses this time is rather weird, since I don't understand what "running parallel state" means.
    It means that mr. Gulen has schools and assistance systems all over the country for his followers. He provides cheaper services and products, jobs and everything that should be run by a state, only to islamic people who sign their children in his schools. He evades taxes as much as he can, and brainwashes people into islamism and against the Turkish republic values.

    I'm not saying Erdogan is a saint, but Gulen is far from being the good guy in this story .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serkelet View Post
    It means that mr. Gulen has schools and assistance systems all over the country for his followers. He provides cheaper services and products, jobs and everything that should be run by a state, only to islamic people who sign their children in his schools. He evades taxes as much as he can, and brainwashes people into islamism and against the Turkish republic values.

    I'm not saying Erdogan is a saint, but Gulen is far from being the good guy in this story .
    Which coincidentally Gulen runs from Virginia USA.
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    Which coincidentally Gulen runs from Virginia USA.
    Last time I checked it was Pennsylvania, MA.
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    Ofcourse dictator Erdogan and his Regime are doing This, they think the opposition is planning a conspiracy theory against the dictator and his regime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    I don't know, it feels Turkey is more and more like Russia, perhaps explains why Putin wants to build a pipeline through Turkey.
    Whys that? I was thinking more Saudi Arabia or Syria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IZob View Post
    Whys that? I was thinking more Saudi Arabia or Syria.
    Saudi Arabia doesn't even have elections, and Syria is in a deep, DEEP civil war that makes the Spanish civil war seem like candy fight.
    On the contrary, Russia and Turkey have some heavy-handed authoritarian oligarchs that manipulate democracy and strike at their political enemies.
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    At this rate, we may be seeing a Neo-Ottoman Empire within our lifetimes, led by grand sultan Edrogan.

    Or at least that's what Erdogan is striving for. In practice, I suspect either the military or the general public will turn on him the moment the economic growth stops. The sooner the better if you ask me; the middle east already has enough nut jobs without one of them running a country the size of Turkey.
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    At least they were same until they become enemies, so they are weakening each other, we got that going for us , which is nice
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    This is the strike back from the mighty president Erdoğan to back his former ally current political enemies aka the Gulenist movement. Exactly one year ago the Gulenist movement tried to topple Erdoğan and his regime with corruption scandals of AKP ministers and their sons (and of course the corruption scandals of Erdoğan himself). Unfortunately Erdoğan overcame the attack. Now he swept the scandals under the carpet, re-designed the juidary committes, assinged new judges and prosecuters, mass-deported the polices cadres, elected as the new president, prepared new laws (including eliminating certain evidence condition in prosecution) AND now he strikes back. He is now alliance with Ulusalci movement against to Gulenist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by white-wolf View Post
    This is the strike back from the mighty president Erdoğan to back his former ally current political enemies aka the Gulenist movement. Exactly one year ago the Gulenist movement tried to topple Erdoğan and his regime with corruption scandals of AKP ministers and their sons (and of course the corruption scandals of Erdoğan himself). Unfortunately Erdoğan overcame the attack. Now he swept the scandals under the carpet, re-designed the juidary committes, assinged new judges and prosecuters, mass-deported the polices cadres, elected as the new president, prepared new laws (including eliminating certain evidence condition in prosecution) AND now he strikes back. He is now alliance with Ulusalci movement against to Gulenist.

    All hail to new Putin.
    At least he managed to redirect most PKK/YPG to Syria and Iraq to get killed there instead of killing Turks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by white-wolf View Post
    Exactly one year ago the Gulenist movement tried to topple Erdoğan and his regime with corruption scandals of AKP ministers and their sons (and of course the corruption scandals of Erdoğan himself)
    I thought the idea that the movement was behind the corruption scandals was debunked. Did I just miss something?
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    Turkish police found a new way to neutralize those who resist arrest ;


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    I like how, with Syria and Iraq in chaos and Russia in steep decline, plus membership in the EU not far away, Erdogan is decidingnot to take advantage of Turkey's strongest regional position since World War 1 and is instead doing his best to wreck all of Turkey's institutions. What a tool

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    Membership in the EU not far away? That ship started sailing away in a windstorm quite a few years ago.
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    Ahem.. let me remind you that they are not under arrest/custody for doing their job. To all non-citizen of Turkey reading about news regarding to my country, do not believe everything. People elect Erdoğan not because of his accomplishments, only because of people like (so called citizens) in this forum and our retarded opposition. AKP will rule next twenty years believe me when i say this.

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