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    Default What I want to see before I am willing to Pre Purchase this game.

    I want to see out in the open how units fight with one another close up.

    I dont want to see these quick glimpses and pull back long distance views.

    I want to see the animations like axe animations for one. I want to see some of the new animations for this brand new game.

    I would like to see if there is clipping between units. I want to see how close we are able to zoom in.

    I want to see how swords act, spears act, archers act and especially calvary.

    I want to see how units move through one another.

    One other thing maybe a brief glimpse of a night battle just a few seconds to see how lighting will be applied.

    I have not see any of this from CA so far brief glimpses thats all. I want the whole battle with Calvary charges the whole shbang.

    I only want one battle with a wide variety of units in it and I want to see it the whole thing and I want to see how these units act with each other.

    I want a 5 minute battle maybe 10 is that to much to ask for a game so different from Rome 2 and fixed? I dont think so but it certainally would go a long ways in to answering many questions for me and many others. I hope CA considers doing this
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    So you wont be preordering then eh? Good choice.

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    Expect it to be 80% R2 content reused

    Dont expect any new animations apart from axe.

    Expect sieges to still be lacking or broken(its not like they were on top of R2 seiges as it only took 12 months to fix, barley fixed.)

    Dont expect anything different from archers ,swordsmen and spears.

    Dont expect CA to show you open battles because blobbing is still very real.

    Extpect to get pummelled with hype and dont believe the hype, once you have purchased it CA wont give a toss about you.

    Do not pre-order it, tell your friends to do the same.

    Dont pre-order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionheart11 View Post
    Expect it to be 80% R2 content reused

    Dont expect any new animations apart from axe.

    Expect sieges to still be lacking or broken(its not like they were on top of R2 seiges as it only took 12 months to fix, barley fixed.)

    Dont expect anything different from archers ,swordsmen and spears.

    Dont expect CA to show you open battles because blobbing is still very real.

    Extpect to get pummelled with hype and dont believe the hype, once you have purchased it CA wont give a toss about you.

    Do not pre-order it, tell your friends to do the same.

    Dont pre-order.
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    Default Re: What I want to see before I am willing to Pre Purchase this game.

    Lionheart the destroyer of hope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butan View Post
    Lionheart the destroyer of hope
    Lol ..I only hope im proven wrong my friend, im happy to be open to buying after i see reviews from trusted people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionheart11 View Post
    Lol ..I only hope im proven wrong my friend, im happy to be open to buying after i see reviews from trusted people.
    CA destroyed pre- orders with R2. We won't fall for that hype again!. I shall watch closely the reviews etc. before I even think about buying another TW game and I'm very old school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueLeader View Post
    I want to see out in the open how units fight with one another close up.

    I dont want to see these quick glimpses and pull back long distance views.

    I want to see the animations like axe animations for one. I want to see some of the new animations for this brand new game.

    I would like to see if there is clipping between units. I want to see how close we are able to zoom in.

    I want to see how swords act, spears act, archers act and especially calvary.

    I want to see how units move through one another.

    One other thing maybe a brief glimpse of a night battle just a few seconds to see how lighting will be applied.

    I have not see any of this from CA so far brief glimpses thats all. I want the whole battle with Calvary charges the whole shbang.

    I only want one battle with a wide variety of units in it and I want to see it the whole thing and I want to see how these units act with each other.

    I want a 5 minute battle maybe 10 is that to much to ask for a game so different from Rome 2 and fixed? I dont think so but it certainally would go a long ways in to answering many questions for me and many others. I hope CA considers doing this
    if all you care about is the battle portion, just watch the egx video and the twitch video. those videos are uncut and shows off the battles pretty well. I doubt anything would change from those videos from now till release.

    units still don't push. they would collide and proceed to stay in formation and kill, but never push forward. this seems to be the solution they came up with for warscape engine + the blob issue. I honestly think blobbing is 100% fine if the unit spreads out after the initial charge blob(just not as spread out as rome 1 units, rome 1 unit spread in defend mode was crazy, yes I am saying rome 1 isn't perfect non of the tw games were) defend button is still not there.

    whoever think it was a good idea at ca to take out the defend button for rome 2 really need to get a 20% salary reduction for a year as punishment, hell, demoted. one of the last remaining frustrations I have with the battle portion atm all because of the lack of that button.

    just be like me. attila would probably be my last tw game if ca continues with warscape for sword/bow/horse tw games. I would not be one of the super stupid @#$%^ that and moan for 1+ years on these forums. you probably wouldn't even notice my absence
    Last edited by craziii; December 14, 2014 at 02:45 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craziii View Post
    if all you care about is the battle portion, just watch the egx video and the twitch video. those videos are uncut and shows off the battles pretty well. I doubt anything would change from those videos from now till release.

    units still don't push. they would collide and proceed to stay in formation and kill, but never push forward. this seems to be the solution they came up with for warscape engine + the blob issue. I honestly think blobbing is 100% fine if the unit spreads out after the initial charge blob(just not as spread out as rome 1 units, rome 1 unit spread in defend mode was crazy, yes I am saying rome 1 isn't perfect non of the tw games were) defend button is still not there.

    whoever think it was a good idea at ca to take out the defend button for rome 2 really need to get a 20% salary reduction for a year as punishment, hell, demoted. one of the last remaining frustrations I have with the battle portion atm all because of the lack of that button.

    just be like me. attila would probably be my last tw game if ca continues with warscape for sword/bow/horse tw games. I would not be one of the super stupid @#$%^ that and moan for 1+ years on these forums. you probably wouldn't even notice my absence
    The videos dont show enough, just quick glimpses. I actually want to watch a battle closely. These things are certainly not my only issues with this game but they are my most important, realistic battles is why I buy Total War games if I cant get to a threshhold of realism I enjoy than why would I buy. I quit playing Rome 2 faster than any Total War game ever, I have no desire to repeat my mistake. Nor do I wish to not purchase a game that has been changed/fixed its a totally new game according to CA and has nothing to do with Rome 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueLeader View Post
    The videos dont show enough, just quick glimpses. I actually want to watch a battle closely. These things are certainly not my only issues with this game but they are my most important, realistic battles is why I buy Total War games if I cant get to a threshhold of realism I enjoy than why would I buy. I quit playing Rome 2 faster than any Total War game ever, I have no desire to repeat my mistake. Nor do I wish to not purchase a game that has been changed/fixed its a totally new game according to CA and has nothing to do with Rome 2.
    I am pretty sure that is all they would ever show. for your requests, you are better off asking a good hearted player after release to make a video. I am sure one of the streamers would accept your conditions to make a video. as tehy can use the video to show off the battles + camera works too
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    Quote Originally Posted by craziii View Post
    I am sure one of the streamers would accept your conditions to make a video. as tehy can use the video to show off the battles + camera works too

    Streaming has become so viral we will have tons of videos without even asking anything, we will literally drown in them I'm sure.
    Seeing the history of TWC we should even have some members doing really great and insightful reviews as soon as day 1. I trust them more than anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueLeader View Post
    I want to see out in the open how units fight with one another close up.

    I dont want to see these quick glimpses and pull back long distance views.

    I want to see the animations like axe animations for one. I want to see some of the new animations for this brand new game.

    I would like to see if there is clipping between units. I want to see how close we are able to zoom in.

    I want to see how swords act, spears act, archers act and especially calvary.

    I want to see how units move through one another.

    One other thing maybe a brief glimpse of a night battle just a few seconds to see how lighting will be applied.

    I have not see any of this from CA so far brief glimpses thats all. I want the whole battle with Calvary charges the whole shbang.

    I only want one battle with a wide variety of units in it and I want to see it the whole thing and I want to see how these units act with each other.

    I want a 5 minute battle maybe 10 is that to much to ask for a game so different from Rome 2 and fixed? I dont think so but it certainally would go a long ways in to answering many questions for me and many others. I hope CA considers doing this
    agree with all of these 9000% wont be getting my money until they pry it from my cold dead hands or give me a demo. until then I will wait until reviews come pouring in from critics and users I trust

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    Might I suggest you don't pre-order at all, no matter if it ticks all your boxes. By all means purchase a minute after it is officially released if you wish but pre-orders are destroying the games industry


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamo11 View Post
    Might I suggest you don't pre-order at all, no matter if it ticks all your boxes. By all means purchase a minute after it is officially released if you wish but pre-orders are destroying the games industry
    This!!, pre-orders will only lead to exlusion game content and pay to play in the end, just looks at elder scrolls online!, the greedy gaming industry think we are all a endless pit of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionheart11 View Post
    This!!, pre-orders will only lead to exlusion game content and pay to play in the end, just looks at elder scrolls online!, the greedy gaming industry think we are all a endless pit of money.
    Well, you are considering that this strategy has worked wonders for decades.

    I'm sure Attilla will be every bit as bad as Rome 2 was, and there is no way I'm going to fall for CA's lies. I was optimistic about Rome 2 at first, then the info started to reveal what CA really was about, then came the hilarious broken game, and then came the endless DLC storm.

    This genre really needs some dedicated competition from a developer who doesn't spend most of their resources at marketting and outright lying.

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    There`s a reason why you only get quick glimpses of the battles. Everything you see is orchestrated. Lionheart is absolutely right.

    Still if the battles do turn out better then that`s a plus and who knows, the warnings now and threat of low pre-orders might scare CA to putting 200% in to making battles right for Attilla- there is logic to the warnings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humble Warrior View Post
    There`s a reason why you only get quick glimpses of the battles. Everything you see is orchestrated. Lionheart is absolutely right.

    Still if the battles do turn out better then that`s a plus and who knows, the warnings now and threat of low pre-orders might scare CA to putting 200% in to making battles right for Attilla- there is logic to the warnings.
    why you gotta make stuff up? the egx + twitch video are all uncut battle videos. they just don't fit op's requests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craziii View Post
    why you gotta make stuff up? the egx + twitch video are all uncut battle videos. they just don't fit op's requests.
    So why did we not see floating land ships, soldiers flying out of siege towers, AI units charging then retreating in cycles, and the myriad other bugs present in Rome 2? Maybe because of those "super revealing" videos pre dating that garbage release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevehoos View Post
    So why did we not see floating land ships, soldiers flying out of siege towers, AI units charging then retreating in cycles, and the myriad other bugs present in Rome 2? Maybe because of those "super revealing" videos pre dating that garbage release.
    what does rome 2 promotional videos + bugs have to do with attila? we all know the story by now about pre EE bugs. his post would be perfect if we were talking about rome 2 promotional videos + screens. especially since the videos for attila are completely different and actually shows uncut gameplay.
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    “The only rule that ever made sense to me I learned from a history, not an economics, professor at Wharton. "Fear," he used to say, "fear is the most valuable commodity in the universe." That blew me away. "Turn on the TV," he'd say. "What are you seeing? People selling their products? No. People selling the fear of you having to live without their products." freakin' A, was he right. Fear of aging, fear of loneliness, fear of poverty, fear of failure. Fear is the most basic emotion we have. Fear is primal. Fear sells.” WWZ

    Have you had your daily dose of fear yet? craziii
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humble Warrior View Post
    There`s a reason why you only get quick glimpses of the battles. Everything you see is orchestrated. Lionheart is absolutely right.

    Well, everyone does the same more or less. Hiding the bugs in commercial videos.

    But when the bugs are big enough that they are game-breaking, then it becomes criminal. And Rome 2 sure was a video game murder.

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