Arche Bosporus - No Hoplite Recruitment anymore after Reforms? Bug?

**Igor85** · December 07, 2014, 05:29 AM

Hi,

I had a Reform for Arche Bosporus which allowed me to upgrade my Hoplites to Thorikitai Hoplites.

Problem is: I can't recruit any new Hoplites - neither the old units (normal Hoplites) nor the Thorikitai Hoplites are available for recruitment in any of my cities (hellenic culture). Is this a bug or am I missing something?

**FlashHeart07** · December 07, 2014, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by Igor85

Hi,

I had a Reform for Arche Bosporus which allowed me to upgrade my Hoplites to Thorikitai Hoplites.

Problem is: I can't recruit any new Hoplites - neither the old units (normal Hoplites) nor the Thorikitai Hoplites are available for recruitment in any of my cities (hellenic culture). Is this a bug or am I missing something?

Do you have the needed tech upgrade? It is located in the first military tech and is purple of colour. This is needed to upgrade reform units. Only Hellenic and Rome needs this

**Igor85** · December 07, 2014, 05:46 AM

Yes I have the Greek unit upgrade (purple) upgrade. Also I've already upgraded my existing hoplites to Thorikitai Hoplites. But now I can't recruit new ones: neither the old ones, nor the reformes ones.

**KAM 2150** · December 07, 2014, 05:57 AM

Old and boring question, but what other mods do you run with DeI?

**RGA** · December 07, 2014, 06:54 AM

Check if you have your Hellenic culture of more than 50%. Hellenic troops could not be recruited from where Hellenic influence is too low.

**Igor85** · December 07, 2014, 07:50 AM

I have hellenic culture >90%. I can recruit hellenic units, just the standard hoplites (greek ones) and their reformed unit (thorikitai) are missing after the reform. also I have no other mods than dei installed.

**Matmannen** · December 07, 2014, 08:26 AM

There have been a few issues with the black sea colonies factions since the release of the DLC...

**Litharion** · December 07, 2014, 11:39 AM

upload your save game please

**Igor85** · December 07, 2014, 02:20 PM

Okay, now I was on a wiki site, which shows all troops of arche bosporus...and I have to say there are not only Thorikitai Hoplites missing in my game. It seems all Thorikitai-reformed units are missing, also Bosphoroi Toxotai (Bowmen). I already wondered why I only have such bad units.^^
So, how can I upload my save game?

**Litharion** · December 07, 2014, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Igor85

Okay, now I was on a wiki site, which shows all troops of arche bosporus...and I have to say there are not only Thorikitai Hoplites missing in my game. It seems all Thorikitai-reformed units are missing, also Bosphoroi Toxotai (Bowmen). I already wondered why I only have such bad units.^^
So, how can I upload my save game?

either upload it to a site like mediafire https://www.mediafire.com and send me the link to the file or zip the save and add it to a post here (Attachments -> manage attachments)

**Igor85** · December 07, 2014, 02:56 PM

Yeah, that's the part I know how to do, but where can I find my save game? I looked in the steam folder Rome II, but there isn't anything like.

**Dresden** · December 07, 2014, 03:13 PM

If you are using Windows 7

C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\The Creative Assembly\Rome2\save_games

I think what may be happening is that you have reached the Thureos reforms but the upgrade for the Bos_Hoplites is for Thorax. So, the Thorax is locked and you can no longer recruit normal hoplites. This may be causing the problem rather than a script bug.

**Igor85** · December 07, 2014, 03:45 PM

So, let's see what I have done wrong. Thanks in advance.

**Igor85** · December 09, 2014, 01:00 PM

Any findings yet?

**Dresden** · December 09, 2014, 01:19 PM

I don't think you have reached the Thorax reforms yet in your game? Unless I am missing something.

**Igor85** · December 10, 2014, 12:53 PM

If you look at my armies in Sarmatia you can find Thorikitai Hoplites in them. I upgraded them from my existing normal bosphorai hoplites after the reform. But in cities I can neither recruit the normal hoplites nor the thorikitai hoplites anymore (although hellenic culture is present). To be exactly: I'm missing all thorikitai units, also the bosphoroi toxotai (and maybe even more). I would already be glad to be able to just recruit my normal hoplites,...

**Dresden** · December 10, 2014, 01:12 PM

There is a bug in our reforms currently. When the global reforms happen (in this case, thorax) for the AI factions but not for the player, units that are upgradeable cannot be recruited by the player. The reason this happens is because the units are restricted for the player, but the upgrade mechanic has triggered for all of the units (thus replacing the units previous units, which are now gone).

We are working on a fix for this issue. Either we will have to remove unit upgrades for factions other than Rome and Carthage or we will have to edit our script commands to make it so that the global reform for the culture a player is playing cannot trigger before the player has reached that reform level.

Let me know if this fix helps at all (it removes unit upgrades). Load it before DeI: http://www.mediafire.com/download/yq...nitfixDeI.pack

**Litharion** · December 13, 2014, 07:35 AM

If you start a new campaign using 0.96f use this small script fix until it is added, this will prevent the problems with unrecruitable units, if the AI reaches a global reform before the player reaches his.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ig...eform_fix.pack