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    UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.N. General Assembly overwhelmingly approved an Arab-backed resolution Tuesday calling on Israel to renounce possession of nuclear weapons and put its nuclear facilities under international oversight.

    The resolution, adopted in a 161-5 vote, noted that Israel is the only Middle Eastern country that is not party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. It called on Israel to "accede to that treaty without further delay, not to develop, produce test or otherwise acquire nuclear weapons, to renounce possession of nuclear weapons" and put its nuclear facilities under the safeguard of the U.N.'s International Atomic Energy Agency.

    The United States and Canada were among four countries that joined Israel in opposing the measure, while 18 countries abstained.

    Israel is widely considered to possess nuclear arms but declines to confirm it.

    The resolution, introduced by Egypt, echoed a similar Arab-backed effort that failed to gain approval in September at the Vienna-based IAEA. At the time, Israel criticized Arab countries for undermining dialogue by repeatedly singling out the Jewish state in international arenas. Israel's U.N. Mission did not immediately return a request for comment Tuesday.

    The U.N. resolution, titled "The risk of nuclear proliferation in the Middle East," pushed for the establishment of a nuclear weapons-free zone in the Middle East and lamented that U.S.-backed efforts to convene talks were abandoned in 2012.

    Israel has long argued that a full Palestinian-Israeli peace plan must precede any creation of a Mideast zone free of weapons of mass destruction. The country also argues that Iran's alleged work on nuclear arms is the real regional threat. Iran denies pursuing such weapons.

    General Assembly resolutions are not legally binding but carry moral weight because it is the only body where all 193 U.N. member states are represented.

    U.S. representative Robert Wood, in voting against the resolution at the committee-level last month, said the measure "fails to meet the fundamental tests of fairness and balance. It confines itself to expressions of concern about the activities of a single country."

    Wood said the U.S. will continue pushing a Middle East free of weapons of mass destructions, but he warned that such resolutions only undermine prospects for progress.
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    The comment of US representative is rather funny, consider how US government is so concerned about a few states that getting nukes.
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    Idiotic cold war mindset of US realists strikes again, treating the UN as a tool for relative gains.
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    This reminds me as a wee lad when I was in the "model" UN. Our resolutions were equally inane and equally effective in reality.
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    Lol. The United States and 3 other countries backed Israel, while no one else did! That's telling.

    Given Israeli paranoia about Iran's enrichment of uranium, and Pakistan already having the bomb, it's pretty obvious that they would never comply with this.

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    I don't understand the US representative's Wood comments.
    "We want a nuclear-free Middle East, but UN resolutions about that are bad and undermine the process" How a resolution over nuclear free Middle East undermines the process of a nuclear free Middle East?

    I would also love to see some sanctions on Israel so that they understand they can't ignore the UN and get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    I don't understand the US representative's Wood comments.
    "We want a nuclear-free Middle East, but UN resolutions about that are bad and undermine the process" How a resolution over nuclear free Middle East undermines the process of a nuclear free Middle East?

    I would also love to see some sanctions on Israel so that they understand they can't ignore the UN and get away with it.
    Of course they can ignore the UN.

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    Besides, did Israel ever admit having nuclear weapons?

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    Everybody and their cat knows they have nukes, what's to admit. It's like saying I never admitted i am human.


    Resolution is good but unenforceable thanks to the US representatives being retarded again. You say you are all for peace and stability, you organize expensive peace summits every couple of years wasting billions of taxpayer money on nothing, you condemn everyone who is even thinking to produce nukes, you disarm yourself but when it comes to disarming the biggest aggressor in the region you block it. Do the words policy coherence mean anything to US politicians?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Adrian View Post
    Everybody and their cat knows they have nukes, what's to admit. It's like saying I never admitted i am human.
    This isn't the point here, although how can you tell someone to give up something he claims he doesn't posses is beyond me.

    And it's silly to think that Israel would act on resolution based on demand of Arab countries. After all, we all know how friendly they are. Plus, as long as all other nuclear powers don't do the same, it's laughable to ask one to get rid of his arsenal.
    And, we all know how big of a joke UN is. For example, Saudi Arabia, China and whatnot are/were members of its human rights department. So, please...

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    Or maybe it's unenforceable because General Assembly resolutions are non-binding and thus not even meant to be enforced. Everyone's feelings are just as valid as the General Assembly's.
    Or this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Adrian View Post
    Resolution is good but unenforceable thanks to the US representatives being retarded again.
    Or maybe it's unenforceable because General Assembly resolutions are non-binding and thus not even meant to be enforced. Everyone's feelings are just as valid as the General Assembly's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sumskilz View Post
    Or maybe it's unenforceable because General Assembly resolutions are non-binding and thus not even meant to be enforced. Everyone's feelings are just as valid as the General Assembly's.

    Sanctions on Israel over the nukes though, passed by the general assembly though would be adopted by many nations, putting some real pressure
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    Sanctions on Israel over the nukes though, passed by the general assembly though would be adopted by many nations, putting some real pressure
    Not really, since the USA will oppose them and in turn pressure pretty much anyone who matters to not adopt them. The day may come when the USA is not the world leading power but China is but their big policy line is non intervention (outside of their local sea) so not thinking they will care
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    The OP offers insufficient basis for a discussion. As a result, I'm closing the thread.

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