Putin's youth: An expected but still very sad occurence

[alhoon]

http://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/28/p...re-286464.html

The gist: There's a growing Putin youth that recruits young people to help brainwash other young people in what I see as "Putin's cult of personality". Surprising? Not really. As news that a hurricane in the Caribbean would leave devastation. Still sad although you expect it.

I find it particularly sad and frustrating to see young people, teens, being fed party propaganda with the direct effect of brainwashing. I find it disgusting and abhorrent that the political parties have infiltrated universities and even high schools in Greece and other countries and I find abominant the formation of such nationalistic cult of personality youth organizations that brainwash and corrupt young minds to help keep up a leader.

And keep in mind Putin's Youth organizations aren't new as the article explains. "There have been other youth movements in the Putin years – the best known was Nashi, which translates as 'Ours', but they turned into thuggish neo-fascist organisations".
What do you expect when you brainwash poor people with nationalistic propaganda?

[mrmouth]

The guy will finally step-down by 2024, after leading the country (in one capacity or another) for 24 of the 33 years after the fall of the Soviet Union.

He is the only cult of personality that many Russian youths will know. I dont know if he actually needs a program to further indoctrinate them beyond that of Russian media, and simply holding office for so long.

[Denny Crane!]

Do they get a free knife and a brownshirt?

[Nikitn]

sigh.. I am so tired of these journalists who write crap about Russia, yet have never been there. OK, so because there apparently was a lack of "father figures" and because they sell t-shirts in the bazar, Putin is brainwashing the kids by becoming their father?? I don't know. I didn't bother wasting my time and reading the article past the first few paragraphs.

Do they get a free knife and a brownshirt?

No, they have to spend their own money buying T-shirts with his face on it. But I guess that doesn't fit with your obscene Putinjugend idea, sorry about that.

[alhoon]

No Denny. Those were the other youths the article talks about. This new group gets a mandate to make "love Putin" a fashion. To make Putin and shadow invasions c00l. To indoctrinate their peers at school.

Want to be in a clique in highschool and have lots of facebook friends? Join the cool bros with the Putin shirts.
Want a quick ####? Pray to Putin and those girls will melt.
(and if someone complains too much, there are always the neo-fascist youths that beat people up)

[Stavroforos]

When can we talk about the Greek youth organizations? The one's that pollute campuses around Greece?

[alhoon]

When can we talk about the Greek youth organizations? The one's that pollute campuses around Greece?

Now would be as good time as any.
But at least our disgusting university parties are not cults of personality. They're cesspools of nepotism and brewing places of corrupt public employees, but they're not cults of personality.

Speaking of those, I would like to remind to non-Greeks that our youth organizations killed Temponera in 1991. The thugs were not a fringe party youth. Noooope, they were the party youth of ND, that are government now. Temponera's killer has been released from prison... and I think was arrested again for violence. Temponeras himself was a communist teacher that was introducing students to communism.
Voridis, another one of the party youth of ND, is said to have been yielding an axe against leftwing youth organizations and is a former minister...

Leftwing youth organizations occupy campuses all around Greece and we have incidents of them doing violence in multiple occasions/year. The costs of material damage the leftwings do to the universities is astronomical. There are instances, that I have witnessed with my own eyes of leftwings trying to intimidate professors. There are not-that-rare instances every few years that leftwing youth groups seriously wound students with opposing ideology...

speaking of seriously wounding students of opposing ideology, let's not forget that GDawn far right wing MP Kassidiaris assisted his other far right buddies in the stabbing inside university campus of a leftwing. When a fat communist old lady MP called him out on that on live TV, Kassidiaris did what every proud man in his prime would do and proceeded to beat the crap out of an old lady. On Live TV.
And the minister sitting next to the old lady as a neonazi was punching her chivalrously stayed in his chair and didn't even rise his voice in protest.


That's a quick overview of the Party Youths that pollute and destroy Greek universities.

[Holger Danske]

Any fascist dictator with some level of self-respect would want to have a youth movement. Putin was just jealous of Hitler's own toddler soldiers and wants some of his own. And yeah, Nashi... it really has a familiar sounding name.

[Butan]

Please rename thread to "Freedom of association: an expected but still very sad occurence".
Extreme fan boyism is not yet illegal afaik, and as long as those groups are not para-military children-drafting Russian government controlled agencies, I simply see the occurence of the "creation of pro-Putin groups" as a confirmation that Putin approval ratings are not fake.

[DarthLazy]

You see no problem with politically motivated groups wrecking on campus?

[Aru]

Hm, every party here has a youth section. Most of them are very loyal to party leader, and especially in nationalistic, more autocratically led parties. It's just part of politics.

[alhoon]

And sad.

[Aru]

And worrysome. Those youth are often fanatically loyal and will do anything should circumstances allow it and party order it. Their sole existence isn't a problem in somewhat democratic society. But it is in society that Russia's becoming.

[alhoon]

The existence of party youths in Greece, a democratic country, is problematic and detrimental as I've said a few posts above. In the case of Russia they're even bigger problem.

[Basil II the B.S]

More Russophobia from American media crap.

[Heathen Hammer]

More Russophobia from American media crap.

This. They make Putin look better then he really is, to be honest. Funny thing is, in Russia is is viewed more negatively because of his doveish pro-oligarch politics, while American media makes up those crazy stories making him sound like XXI century version of Bismarck.

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

Sooo he is just stalin 2.0?

[Stavroforos]

Sooo he is just stalin 2.0?

To the Russophobes, he's Hitler/Stalin 2.0.

To most sane people, he's an increasingly authoritarian ruler in a decreasingly democratic country.

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

To the Russophobes, he's Hitler/Stalin 2.0.

To most sane people, he's an increasingly authoritarian ruler in a decreasingly democratic country.

Ahhhhhhhhh okey here we go again: The English suffixes -phobia, -phobic, -phobe (of Greek origin: φόβος/φοβία ) occur in technical usage in psychiatry to construct words that describe irrational, disabling fear as a mental disorder....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_phobias
funny enough? Russophobes is not under R?

[Stavroforos]

Ahhhhhhhhh okey here we go again: The English suffixes -phobia, -phobic, -phobe (of Greek origin: φόβος/φοβία ) occur in technical usage in psychiatry to construct words that describe irrational, disabling fear as a mental disorder....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_phobias
funny enough? Russophobes is not under R?

What I'm saying is that the perception of Putin differs among those who have an abnormal hate for Russia and those who don't.