Kill Osama Bin Laden - then deliver beer for a living

[Denny Crane!]

WASHINGTON: The man who shot Osama bin Laden during the sensational 2011 raid inside Pakistan is going public after falling out with the US military, and his family says they are not afraid — not even of terrorists seeking revenge.

"People are asking if we are worried that ISIS will come and get us because Rob is going public. I say I'll paint a big target on my front door... come and get us," the Navy SEAL's father Tom O'Neill taunted militants in an interview to Daily Mail, after the military website SOFREP.com identified the commando who killed Osama as Rob O'Neill, now a 38-year old family man from Montana.

The O'Neills have more reason to be worried about the US government and its military, which is furious at their decision to go public. Two of Rob O'Neill's commanders wrote to other navy SEALs warning them of the consequences of such dereliction.

"A critical tenant (sic) of our Ethos is 'I do not advertize the nature of my work, nor seek recognition for my actions," Force Master Chief Michael Magaraci and commander Rear Admiral Brian Losey wrote to former and current SEALs. "Our Ethos is a life-long commitment and obligation, both in and out of the Service. Violators of are Ethos are neither Teammates in good standing, nor Teammates who represent Naval Special Warfare." They warned that they will "actively seek judicial consequence for members who willfully violate the law, and place our Teammates, our Families, and potential future operations at risk."

But it appears that O'Neill decided to go public after losing his health insurance and pension benefits when he quit the military (early) after 16 years of service, and couldn't find a decent job or make a dignified living.
In his years with the military, O'Neill had a spectacular record, with 52 decorations including two Silver Stars, four Bronze Stars with Valor, a Joint Service Commendation Medal with Valor, three Presidential Unit citations, and two Navy/Marine Corps Commendations with Valor. He completed more than 400 combat missions and killed more than 30 targets to become one of the most decorated SEALs ever. Three of stories involving his exploits were made into movies although he was never publicly identified by name. "I support him in everything he is doing," his father told Daily Mail. "What are you supposed to do when you come out of the military after such service — become a greeter at Walmart?"

Indeed, one of the jobs the military offered to get for O'Neill after he quit was to deliver beer, he said in a previous interview in which he was not identified. He has since been delivering motivation speeches without going into details of his career. But the cloak of secrecy will be off when he appears on Fox News in an interview — to be aired on November 11 and 12 — in which he will speak about the raid that killed bin Laden.

So the SEAL breaking military protocol for his unit has gone public as having killed Osama.

Doing one of the best jobs of the decade, being a member of an elite unit apparently doesn't get you health insurance for life in the USA, in fact they might just offer you a delivery van mans job!

So there you go, help for heroes! Support our troops unless they quit!

And how long before he gets beheaded with a bomb up his arse for good measure?

[removeduser_487563287433]

Be cautious. O'Neill has in fact been working as a motivational speaker since his retirement, and indeed his conflict with the US Government over his benefits seems to be because he left three years before that retirement age. He's hardly high and dry as the DM would like to suggest. I'd wait for the other side of the story.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...e-silence-navy

[Denny Crane!]

Be cautious. O'Neill has in fact been working as a motivational speaker since his retirement, and indeed his conflict with the US Government over his benefits seems to be because he left three years before that retirement age. He's hardly high and dry as the DM would like to suggest. I'd wait for the other side of the story.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...e-silence-navy

Good job he happens to have a talent for speaking. What if he did not? What if years of trauma left him unable to carry on in the military but not able to pick up a fantastic new job. Still a bit poodle isn't it?

[removeduser_487563287433]

Good job he happens to have a talent for speaking. What if he did not? What if years of trauma left him unable to carry on in the military but not able to pick up a fantastic new job. Still a bit poodle isn't it?

We are buying his claim and the sensationalist view of the Mail wholesale here. That may not be so great in a few days time.

[I WUB PUGS]

What if years of trauma left him unable to carry on in the military but not able to pick up a fantastic new job.

Since this thread has devolved into typical mudpittery, I'll come back to this just to clear it up.

If he had completed his 20 years of service then he would have rated retirement with benefits; to include full medical coverage until the age of 65 (or is it 66) when you have to switch to Medicare as all US citizens are entitled. A retired military person retains all of their service benefits including shopping at the exchange and commissary (any in the world), dental, medical, pension, access to on base facilities like golf courses and gyms. I think the only thing they lose is the life insurance coverage. These are unique benefits afforded to retired military personnel. They don't apply to veterans in general, only people that RETIRE from the military. He didn't hit 20 years, he doesn't get a damn thing.

If he has a disability that he incurred during his service then this is an issue for the Department of Veterans Affairs. As a veteran of a combat zone during the post-911 era, he rates 5 years of free medical coverage for any follow-up treatment on injuries sustained during his service. This treatment is generally done at VA health facilities. If he is disabled in any way, he can apply for a rating which would grant him a monthly payment for the rest of his life. This payment can range from a few hundred dollars a month to over 3000, all of it tax free.

You don't get special treatment just because you did something unique. Special treatment like "early retirement" simply doesn't exist. If a person were to say, suffer a debilitating injury that caused them to separate from the armed forces early then that is immediately passed to the VA for a disability rating. He chose to do 17 years and not 20 like an idiot. No one takes on that many contracts without getting to 20, just a dumb play on his move and he knows it which is why he's trying to get his celebrity subsidy.

Personally, its just another example of why I haven't been at all impressed with how the SEALs as a community have handled their role in the War on Terror. STFU about it. But these guys don't listen and it seems that the Navy has lost the lid on them.

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There are instances of people getting "hooked up" and getting "early retirement" even if that doesn't exist. I am not entirely sure how this is handled and it is probably passed to the VA. I've only witnessed this one time or even heard of it happening once. I had a Marine at Comm School with me that clearly did not meet minimum intelligence requirements. She had been pushed through by her recruiter, by her drill instructors and her MCT instructors and by the School House. When she got to the Fleet in Okinawa it was determined that she was mentally handicapped. It is my understanding that she basically got everything you could hope to get out of the military and only after about a year and a half of service. Thanks to the pipeline screwing up repeatedly, she was afforded full education benefits, a large (possibly 100% disability) stipend along with medical and dental. I do not know if she retained on base privileges. But generally speaking, you don't just get to choose to leave (not sign another contract) the service and then complain that you didn't get retirement benefits.

[Menelik_I]

Be cautious. O'Neill has in fact been working as a motivational speaker since his retirement, and indeed his conflict with the US Government over his benefits seems to be because he left three years before that retirement age. He's hardly high and dry as the DM would like to suggest. I'd wait for the other side of the story.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...e-silence-navy

After everything He did and breaking every record for his country they dump him because He is tired of this life and wants to start something else ?

If this is the same guy that wrote "no-easy day" then the guy is probably a perfectioniste who after reaching the top of his Navy Seal career wants to do something else with his life and take care of his family, to which the Navy answers with a big " YOU".

By the way Biden son can snort a ton of cocaine and nothing happen to him, and is probably going to be a Senator one day. Stupid country all around.

[Mangalore]

After everything He did and breaking every record for his country they dump him because He is tired of this life and wants to start something else ?

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Apparently because he cancelled the 20 year contract of military service which comes with a lot of perks including a pension plan.

He didn't got dumped, he left without serving the full term. It's not like the military made that decision. He did. Hero or not, whining about the effects of a decision he consciously made is rather unheroic as is the demand of special treatment compared to his comrades.

[Menelik_I]

Apparently because he cancelled the 20 year contract of military service which comes with a lot of perks including a pension plan.

He didn't got dumped, he left without serving the full term. It's not like the military made that decision. He did. Hero or not, whining about the effects of a decision he consciously made is rather unheroic as is the demand of special treatment compared to his comrades.

My understanding is that becoming SEAL require a lot of effort and being a good one means you will spend years on end being a missing father and husband. It is not like the guy is a slacker, after arriving to the top of his Navy Seal career He wants to focus on his family.


Contract or not, this is unfair.

[Nevins]

My understanding is that becoming SEAL require a lot of effort and being a good one means you will spend years on end being a missing father and husband. It is not like the guy is a slacker, after arriving to the top of his Navy Seal career He wants to focus on his family.


Contract or not, this is unfair.

No, it isnt unfair AT ALL. IN ANY WAY. The deal that we have in the US military is that those full benefits only kick in after 20 years of service and there is absolutely no way that he did not understand that when he decided to leave early. Being some secret squirrel SEAL guy doesnt mean he gets away with breaking basic rules like that

[Gaidin]

My understanding is that becoming SEAL require a lot of effort and being a good one means you will spend years on end being a missing father and husband. It is not like the guy is a slacker, after arriving to the top of his Navy Seal career He wants to focus on his family.


Contract or not, this is unfair.

yawn. Let me know when you find the wording of the contract. And great red herring with Biden. Failing a drug test isn't evidence of anything.

[Heathen Hammer]

Does he have pictures of Osama's dead body? Otherwise it seems like he is just seeking a cheap way of becoming a celebrity.

[Roma_Victrix]

Wait, what? Why would it matter if he had immediate photos of his kill shot or not?

[Vanoi]

Wait, what? Why would it matter if he had immediate photos of his kill shot or not?

No one has ever seen the photos that verified it was Osama. Which has led to this wierd cosnpiracy that the US didn't kill Osama.

[Heathen Hammer]

No one has ever seen the photos that verified it was Osama. Which has led to this wierd cosnpiracy that the US didn't kill Osama.

Because, you know, there was no evidence. It is only rational to question what US government says, given how it is prone on lying so much on the subject.

[Vanoi]

Because, you know, there was no evidence. It is only rational to question what US government says, given how it is prone on lying so much on the subject.

Lets ignore the fact Al-Qaeda says Osama is dead.

If Osama isn't dead, then please tell me why no new audio or video tapes by him have been seen or heard again? Why hasn't he made a video and proved the world he was sitll alive damaging the credibility of the US very badly?

[Heathen Hammer]

Lets ignore the fact Al-Qaeda says Osama is dead.
If Osama isn't dead, then please tell me why no new audio or video tapes by him have been seen or heard again? Why hasn't he made a video and proved the world he was sitll alive damaging the credibility of the US very badly?

Not according to Berkan Yashar, a former agent of CIA, who said that Osama died of natural causes years before, and he knew his bodyguards who actually witnessed his death. Given how Americans never came up with any evidence of them killing Osama, they basically could have made that up to get Obama re-elected, which makes more sense then the fairy tale that was given by the mainstream media.

[Roma_Victrix]

Because, you know, there was no evidence. It is only rational to question what US government says, given how it is prone on lying so much on the subject.

Dude, you're so right on this! This is the sort of thing I've been saying for years, but no one will listen to me! No one will kindly acknowledge the voices in my head who tell me that these two people are also still alive and well, and influencing us all behind the scenes by ruling over NAFTA and the UN:




Everyone needs to stop hating on Heathen Hammer. He's onto something big, and he's telling you the truth! You'll see. One day the voices in my head will all be vindicated and Osama bin Laden will come out and explain exactly how Obama has kept him silent all these years.

[Derpy Hooves]

​So HH believes one retired guy, but does not believe the other. Nice double standards.

[Heathen Hammer]

​So HH believes one retired guy, but does not believe the other. Nice double standards.

I believe a guy who actually knew Osama and his bodyguards and who actually worked for CIA. If this "seal" guy provides evidence of Osama's death in Pakistan, then sure. Until that happens, Osama being killed by "seals" seems like propaganda story, made up to make Obama more popular after his multiple failures.

Do I believe a random Turkish politician, claiming to be former CIA, reported only in Press TV, a state mouth piece of the Iranian regime, known for, among other abuses, interviewing people who have been tortured in order to say what they want?

Nope, on account of me having enough brain cells to rub them together, Heather Hammer.

Citation needed. Not that we'd expect one from you, just making sure.
Also your claim is rather funny, given how 90% of "free press" in US is owned by only 6 major media corporations. But then again, Western media is presented by nice white people, not by those disgusting terrorist brown folks, they can't be trusted, right?

[removeduser_487563287433]

For the multitude of controversies produced by Press TV, the source of HH's conspiracy theory, this article provides a summary:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_TV_controversies

For those who care. I mean, you don't really need to go into too much detail as to why this particular conspiracy theory is weaker than most.