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    Hey all,

    On the Faction Preview on totalwar.com, (I think its there...) it says the HRE does not answer to the Pope, even though it is Catholic. Does this mean they don't have to worry about excommunication when attacking other Catholic factions?

    But my main concern is, if they are independent of the Pope, does this mean they cannot join Crusades? I thought I finally decided the Faction I wanted to play as first, but if they can't join crusades, I may have to rethink...

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    From a realistic point of view, it should be possible.

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    The Holy Roman Empire of German Nation was the "protector" of the pope. There was some fight going on between a certain german Kaiser and a pope, but except for this event I don't think it would've been often that the popes dared to demand something from the germans.

    Let's wait for our history experts to find this thread

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    The Emperors of the HRE where constantly fighting with the Pope so far as nominating the own anti-Pope and I'm pretty sure that he can get as ex-communicated like every other factions.
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    No, they're Catholic, they abide by the same laws, that text is just a bit of historical context.

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    when HRE was astablished... they want to make defender - a country to protect the Pope - they have created theirown biggest thread actually =)
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    I think that they should join crusades. Can you give us a link to this preview?
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    www.totalwar.com

    Click on Game Info, then Factions, then Sicily. (My memory must be shot...I thought the factoid I read was in the HRE Preview, but its actually under Sicily.

    Right below the screenshot of the Sicilian knights running through the gate is this statement:
    "Hiding behind shields is however, not the way to establish an empire - nor is any defence without its weakness. The Holy Roman Empire shares borders with the Sicilians, and the armies of the Reich answer to the Kaiser - not the Pope"

    If a theme of the Faction is that the HRE is independent from the Pope, then does that exclude them from joining Pope-decreed crusades?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KippyK
    The Holy Roman Empire shares borders with the Sicilians, and the armies of the Reich answer to the Kaiser - not the Pope"
    You're reading way too much into that. CA is simply saying you, the player, and not the Pope, controls what your faction does.

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    I guess I see your point...The preview details the Papacy's support of Sicily, so maybe the statement is just to show that support from the Papacy does not make you immune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave of the West
    You're reading way too much into that. CA is simply saying you, the player, and not the Pope, controls what your faction does.
    I think they'll act like the other Catholic factions as well. Dave of the West got it down.

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    well the seem to get excommunicated alot

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    Quote Originally Posted by KippyK
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    Click on Game Info, then Factions, then Sicily. (My memory must be shot...I thought the factoid I read was in the HRE Preview, but its actually under Sicily.

    Right below the screenshot of the Sicilian knights running through the gate is this statement:
    "Hiding behind shields is however, not the way to establish an empire - nor is any defence without its weakness. The Holy Roman Empire shares borders with the Sicilians, and the armies of the Reich answer to the Kaiser - not the Pope"

    If a theme of the Faction is that the HRE is independent from the Pope, then does that exclude them from joining Pope-decreed crusades?
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    When excommunicated, you can't launch crusades?
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    No, because Crusades require the Pope's blessings to go ahead.
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    And when excommunicated,the other catholic factions go to war with you?
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    I am certain that they will get crusades, Barbarossa was from the Holy Roman Empire after all. All I know about him I learned from playing age of empires 2 but it was an interesting story and I am sure its rather accurate what is told there. I found it a rather impressive story. He had a victory (not sure what it was) and danced into a river with his armor on and drowned. Many of his men deserted or joined the enemies, but a group of his knights brought Barbarossa to Jerusalem as he had promised in life.

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    If you really annoy the Pope, yes. You can even have Crusades called against you.
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    assassin the pope ?

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    HRE - is neither Holy or Roman. Thats why Pope dislikes them

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