Can we have topics that AREN'T America-centric?

[Caelius]

Title pretty much says it all. For some people here who claim to dislike/hate the US so much, there are others who just can't seem to stop talking about it.

It's somewhat ironic in the sense that some people are actually feeding that outside notion of American arrogance and "center-of-the-world" ego that so many non-Americans claim we have. Can't we bring up some political subjects that have some "freshness" to them for once? Surely the world isn't that small is it?

How about the environment, issues in the EU, the coup in Thailand, France's involvement in Rwanda, Chinese socio-economic tensions, or Russian deals with Syria?

Variety. It's all I ask.

[Rapax]

Don't complain, start it up.

[Big War Bird]

Didn't anyone tell you that anything bad that happens in this world is America's fault and anything good that happens is in spite of it?

[Da Skinna]

Yes, why can't we have a topic about some other country like... France.

[Erik]

Yes, why can't we have a topic about some other country like... France.

Because the instance you mention something mildly positive about France all the Americans jump up screaming that France sucks and how "they" (=their grandparents) saved their asses in WWII.
Then they spend 10 pages discussing America's military supremacy.

You see: the problem isn't the Europeans on this forum, they make topics about all parts of the world.
The problem is Americans who can only talk about America, even if the topic is about a different part of the world.

And the few topics that do manage to avoid turning into an American debate usually drop off the radar scope very quickly due to a lack of posts from our American members (who make up about 40% I think)

now some one will post thread saying "Can we have topics that AREN'T islam-centric"

both threads are pointless .

I fully agree.
The Islam threads are even worst IMO.

They all get started by Ummon using some anti-Islamic article he got from some blog.
Then we all refute the article.
Then he says it doesn't matter because all Muslim are evil anyways because the Qu'ran says so.
Been there, done that.....

[Fabolous]

There is a thread talking about how all that gets talked about is America, therefore almost assuredly going to be turning into a discussion of none other than America.


These are the subtle amusements that keep me living in life...

[harm]

shut it please, America is #1.

[vikrant]

now some one will post thread saying "Can we have topics that AREN'T islam-centric"

both threads are pointless .

[Lavastein]

i would like to read about the french in rwanda........ post links and lets have a ball.

[Miraj]

Unfortunately the WORLD is America-centric. America has its giant military cock in everything, thus political bickering involving America is inevitable.

Just think if you lived in Europe or the Mid-East during the time of the Roman Empire. I'm sure there was a frustrated Roman merchant who was sick and tired of hearing people bicker and argue over how much Rome sucked balls or didn't suck balls.

[Lavastein]

rome would of hung you

the world is not all about the US. france's civil policies arent american. nor is britains. WE can avoid the US if we kept on track.

[Caelius]

^^^

Thanks for all the replies so far everyone, they've all been helpful and completely on topic.

Don't complain, start it up.

Why don't you? Don't shoot the messenger just because it's something you don't want to hear. Regardless i'll probably start one anyway.

[Rapax]

Why don't you? Don't shoot the messenger just because it's something you don't want to hear. Regardless i'll probably start one anyway.

If you were indeed just the messenger as you claim, whose message are you delivering? Are you speaking for the american people? TWC's own neocon branch? If so, you should have announced that in your original post.
In case you didn't notice, I really just comment on the topics I find here, it's not like I was starting america-centric topics or anything.
Also, "just an observation" it was surely not that you were intending. I don't think your views and opinions are such a mystery on this board that one would consider such a thread from you a mere observation.

[Fenris]

Title pretty much says it all. For some people here who claim to dislike/hate the US so much, there are others who just can't seem to stop talking about it.

It's somewhat ironic in the sense that some people are actually feeding that outside notion of American arrogance and "center-of-the-world" ego that so many non-Americans claim we have. Can't we bring up some political subjects that have some "freshness" to them for once? Surely the world isn't that small is it?

How about the environment, issues in the EU, the coup in Thailand, France's involvement in Rwanda, Chinese socio-economic tensions, or Russian deals with Syria?

Variety. It's all I ask.

Well don't read the threads you don't like and create ones about subjects you like...

Why don't you?

Maybe because he's fine with the topics existing? You are the one complaining... not he.

[Caelius]

Well don't read the threads you don't like and create ones about subjects you like...

Where did I say there were threads I didn't like? The truth is that it kinda gets repetitive and boring seeing roughly the same topics and debates centering on the same subject (something America has done, will do, or involved in where everyone has some subjective opinion and is generally critic/hater v. supporter/nutjob) over and over again for almost a year now. Considering some of the discourse i've had with people in real life I don't even consider them to be real debates anymore so much as they are a combo of mud-slinging, nationalistic fervor, and naive pipe-dreams that will never come to pass. Surely this can't be all that the Political Mudpit forum has to offer.

Maybe because he's fine with the topics existing? You are the one complaining... not he.

I'm not complaining, just making an observation.

[Shaun]

The reason there is so much America centric topics is because America is the worlds only superpower, it has been the cause or has got its nose into most recent wars, it invaded Iraq and seems to want to invade Iran as well, it looks like the biggest threat to world police. But then again, it also is one of the biggest exporters of culture, take holywood for example, thats all over the world! Fast food as well, thats everywhere now. I bet every single person on this board has been affected by American foreign policy or culture at one point in their lives, thats why America gets talked about so much. That and the fact that no one really cares about non American or Islamic topics.

[Zenith Darksea]

America has its giant military cock in everything

I didn't realise that the US Army owned cockerels. What is it, a mascot or something? Military poultry - now there's an original idea!

[Caelius]

If you were indeed just the messenger as you claim, whose message are you delivering? Are you speaking for the american people? TWC's own neocon branch? If so, you should have announced that in your original post.

It's a figure of speech, get a grip. Also, contrary to what you label me as, i'd hardly ever consider myself to be a neocon.

In case you didn't notice, I really just comment on the topics I find here, it's not like I was starting america-centric topics or anything.

That's fine.

Also, "just an observation" it was surely not that you were intending. I don't think your views and opinions are such a mystery on this board that one would consider such a thread from you a mere observation.

Please, do you even know what my views and opinions are? Or do you just generalize? Aside from the military dickwaving threads I haven't really expressed them.

The reason there is so much America centric topics is because America is the worlds only superpower, it has been the cause or has got its nose into most recent wars, it invaded Iraq and seems to want to invade Iran as well, it looks like the biggest threat to world police. But then again, it also is one of the biggest exporters of culture, take holywood for example, thats all over the world! Fast food as well, thats everywhere now. I bet every single person on this board has been affected by American foreign policy or culture at one point in their lives, thats why America gets talked about so much. That and the fact that no one really cares about non American or Islamic topics.

Well then, I guess my OP was right on target then.

[Rapax]

It's a figure of speech, get a grip. Also, contrary to what you label me as, i'd hardly ever consider myself to be a neocon.

That it's a figure of speech doesn't make it anymore fitting in the context. There's no reason to disconnect yourself from your message.

Please, do you even know what my views and opinions are? Or do you just generalize? Aside from the military dickwaving threads I haven't really expressed them.

I think you have been voicing your opinion quite enough for me to make a statement, even beyond telling us what an F-22 can do. Your complaint about america-centric threads and disapproval of what you call america-bashing only really add to that.

[RusskiSoldat]

Well, when I was more active there were always 4-5 Russia centric topics, but since all those devolved to the same people using the same irrelevant arguments against me, I decided against creating more than one at a time.