HTW: World in Two Mod: Good / Godesses (Vs) Evil / Conquerors

**Eldren** · October 29, 2014, 03:45 PM

So I wanted to make a Mod were every faction aligned them selves to one or the other. According to the Cannon Zelda Games or by HTW. What factions will be on the "Evil / Conquerors" Side? And what faction will be on the "Good / Godesses" Side?

I'm having trouble matching a few of them. And I would like to hear from you all, what factions should be on which sides?

Also the Mod name is up for grabs, if we can think of a batter one.

So far we have....

Good / Godesses:
hylian
goron
zora
kokiri
huskus
ordona
lanayru
sheikah
fairyhoronsubrosian

Not Sure:
gerudo
deku
twili
wizzrobe

Evil / Conquerors:
gohma
moblin
darknut
lizalfos
labrynna
tokay
stalfos
ikana
zola

Neutral:
Rebels will remain Rebels.

What say you?

We could have it Strict Goddess and Goddess Acknowledgement + wizzrobes (VS) Lesser Deity, Majora, And Non-Religious?
The problem with this is. Gerudo are Goddess Acknowledgement. And fairies are Lesser Deity.

But then we could have The Rim (VS) The Core?

What do you all think?
What say You?

**starwars90001** · October 29, 2014, 03:57 PM

the ones under not sure would probably be neutral, the gerudo go under good if your going by zelda canon, ganondorf the only one consider evil. the wizzrobe also are evil,and the twili could be either way.
how is this submod going to play, is it going to be more zeldaish like hidden items and missions.

**King_of_Spoons64** · October 29, 2014, 04:33 PM

I have had a similar idea for a while now, so my ideas are

Great Hyrulean Alliance
Hyrule
gorons
zora
Kokiri
Layanu
Ordona
Huskus
Wizzrobe
Sheika
fairy?

Forces of Ganon
Moblins
Gerudo
Gohma
Lizalfos
Stalfos
Darknuts
Zuna
Zola

However, instead of just having two alliances fighting each other, there will be a third, smaller one hiding away in the east while the west goes at it, waiting to strike.

Labrynian Empire
Labrynna
Tokay
Subrosia
Horon
Tokay, Subrosia, and Horon will be vassals to Labrynna, which will be expanded to include the rebel settlements near them.

And finally, the followers of Majora, whose goal is to spread Majora Worship as much as possible
Followers of Majora
Church of Majora No settlements at the start, just high piety priests wandering the land. Maybe later in the game they get a huge hoard.
Ikana
Twili maybe keep civil war?

Also perhaps give The Hyrulean Alliance and Ganons Forces Crusades and Jihads.

**Eldren** · October 29, 2014, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by starwars90001

the ones under not sure would probably be neutral, the gerudo go under good if your going by zelda canon, ganondorf the only one consider evil. the wizzrobe also are evil,and the twili could be either way.
how is this submod going to play, is it going to be more zeldaish like hidden items and missions.

My Idea was just to have Forced allies and enemies at start of game.

But this idea King_of_Spoons64 Spoke of works too.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

I would put the Zuna And River Zora with the Forces of Ganon though.

I would make the Labrynian Empire Neutral to Forces of Ganon and Great Hyrulean Alliance.
I would make the Followers of Majora Enemies to all.
I would give the Ikana, Stalfos, River Zora, starting locations to build from. And make them spawn on turn one not later.
I would make the Twili start with a Mirier of Twilit.
I would make the Wizzrobe Order Much like the Sheaka. With a Passive stance and a War stance to show that they live amongst the other nations.

Now this is an idea. Make Church of Majora unit spawn randomly though out the world. Or have an army of Turncoat of Majora spawn next to a City with like 30%-50% Majora worship. And have them attack the settlement to try to take it for Majora. This would not happen in the case of the Twili or Ikona.

Lastly Maybe make the Tokay, Subrosia, and Horon be able to be axillarys to each other or to Labrynna or just give them a boost.

Also perhaps give The Hyrulean Alliance and Ganons Forces Crusades and Jihads.

I like this idea. But for Labrynian Empire. Make it so you take seacret missions form ether queen Abi, or from Vareen.

Edit:
Were are the deku in your idea, King_of_Spoons64?
I would rather have as few Neutral factions as Possible.

I guess we could have the River Zora and Deku Tribes Ally with the Labrynian Empire. This would have been made possible by Varren, making deals with the Deku King and Zola King.

**King_of_Spoons64** · October 29, 2014, 07:18 PM

I meant to put the zola in with Ganon, and give them a settlement or two near zora's domain. Just so the gorons and zora have someone to beat up on early game.As for the deku, I completely forgot about them. Upon thinking about it though, the deku should be at war with Labrynna from the start so they have something to do before they get involved with the other alliances. Another idea is to make a new building line about masks that will give great economic and public order bonuses, but will quickly convert the populace to majora worship at later levels.

**Eldren** · October 30, 2014, 02:41 PM

@ King_of_Spoons64.
That's an other neet idea.

@ All.
Does any one else have any thoughts on how we could do this? Or if any of you would like to take it in a different direction? Let us know. It could be possible.

If you just want to speak your mind, feel free to do so.

Edit:
I'm having a terrible time trying to remember/find the file I have to edit to make factions start at war with each other.

Could some one give me a hand, and point me to what file it was again.

Thanks.

**starwars90001** · October 30, 2014, 03:36 PM

you could make a scripted even base on one of the zelda games, like say you play an evil faction, make it to where taking hyrule prime, the forest, water, and fire unlock the temple of time, and the triforce, give the player scripted choices that are wish that do certain thing like, I don't give so and so all his factions lands, or destroy this faction, or make my men high leveled.
you could also do an event like the join faction event like the zuna one with both sides.

**Eldren** · October 30, 2014, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by starwars90001

you could make a scripted even base on one of the zelda games, like say you play an evil faction, make it to where taking hyrule prime, the forest, water, and fire unlock the temple of time, and the triforce, give the player scripted choices that are wish that do certain thing like, I don't give so and so all his factions lands, or destroy this faction., or make my men high leveled.

On that same note. Could you make a script that put out a Pop up after completing a mission or assignment. That gave you a Choice for your reword. Like..
Op.1) Rupees.
Op.2) Some low teir troops.
Op.3) 1 High level, High Teir unit.
Op.4) Your next to build Building is free in your Choice of settlement.
OP.5) Raise Public Order a little in all settlements.
Op.6) Some free agents.
Op.7) A transfer of population and religious influence from your choice of town to your choice of town.
Op.8) Plague a enemy town of your choice. (or a lesser versions that can't spread) Poison the Water supply of a enemy town of your choice.

We could use other ideas to Possible make what we want.

**starwars90001** · October 30, 2014, 04:11 PM

say Eldren, what workshops do you go to, I for a while have been trying to edit the script for a while now, I been trying to add things like say I add an event like choosing the next forest, and the choice is saria or mirora, and if you choose saria popultaion in all towns increase by 25% and all faction of central hyrule enter a 100% liking of you, and if choose mirora all units and unit building get upgrade faster, and stats of all units raise but all the faction near you will dislike.

**Eldren** · October 30, 2014, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by starwars90001

say Eldren, what workshops do you go to, I for a while have been trying to edit the script for a while now, I been trying to add things like say I add an event like choosing the next forest, and the choice is saria or mirora, and if you choose saria popultaion in all towns increase by 25% and all faction of central hyrule enter a 100% liking of you, and if choose mirora all units and unit building get upgrade faster, and stats of all units raise but all the faction near you will dislike.

???

Sorry, your last post is a little confusing.

The only workshop I know of is from Chivalry: Medieval Warfare. And I don't know or do much on that.
If your talking about modding the Total War Series. There are tutorials on www.twcenter.net/forums for that. But I have not taken the time to do research on that ether.

I Mostly Give ideas to people and do what I can. If your looking for cool things that people Like Neph have pulled off. Then I recommend looking at other Mod's Codes and files, As well as look on their Forums and threads.

I heard the Third Age Mod, got the Bomb Siege engine for Blowing that hole in Helms Deep's lower wall working. Rep for them.

Edit:

choosing the next forest

Do you mean Sage Or Leader? Cause that makes more sense to me.

O...

Your talking about events.
What you said should all be possible. I myself Don't know how to do that. But I have seen and heard of other people doing similar things.

One who comes to mind is tedster1995. She has done many things like that.

**starwars90001** · October 30, 2014, 06:10 PM

thanks for the input.

**Teknokraatti** · November 02, 2014, 08:54 AM

You should look at the Akhtross total war, starwars90001. Shodan, a faction in that mod made by Eothese, has basically just what you need and the mod is very enjoyable by itself anyways, albeit a little unfinished and rough on the edges. Anyways, you want to take a look to the campaign files in that mod.