Nvidia 7950gx2 & AMD x1950 xt-x ANNIHILATED

[Freddie]

Nvidia G80 GeForce 8800 GTX Performance

All I can is wow. To give you some idea of the performance increase we can expect with this first DirectX10 card I'll do a quick statically breakdown of performance increase over the X1950 xt-x from the review above.

- 3D Mark06 59% quicker

- Half Life 2 @ 4xAA/16xAF 1600x1200 92% quicker

- Quake 4 4xAA 1600x1200 93%

- Prey 4xAA/16xAF 1600x1200 60% quicker

Read the full review for the numbers but the stats speak for themselves. The only other time when i saw cards deliver this sort of improvement was when the 6800GTX and Radeon X800XT PE came out back in 2004. The good news is the 8800 GTZ only uses marginally more power under full load then the AMD X1900 XT-X. I only hope Nvidia have solved the HDR and AA running at the same time issue.

[Spart]

Holy ****! Time passes by and I haven't got money to get those things, dammit.
Well, we can forget ultra high end DX9-cards now, that beats them all.

[wipeout140]

Nvidia G80 GeForce 8800 GTX Performance

All I can is wow. To give you some idea of the performance increase we can expect with this first DirectX10 card I'll do a quick statically breakdown of performance increase over the X1950 xt-x from the review above.

- 3D Mark06 59% quicker

- Half Life 2 @ 4xAA/16xAF 1600x1200 92% quicker

- Quake 4 4xAA 1600x1200 93%

- Prey 4xAA/16xAF 1600x1200 60% quicker

Read the full review for the numbers but the stats speak for themselves. The only other time when i saw cards deliver this sort of improvement was when the 6800GTX and Radeon X800XT PE came out back in 2004. The good news is the 8800 GTZ only uses marginally more power under full load then the AMD X1900 XT-X. I only hope Nvidia have solved the HDR and AA running at the same time issue.

First thing first, My TFT does not even have that resolution and for the specs

And second:

I only hope Nvidia have solved the HDR and AA running at the same time issue.

There will be two separate versions of the GeForce 8800, namely the lower-end 8800 GTS, which offers 96 stream processors, a core clock at 500MHz, 640MB of memory, and a shader-engine clock at 1200MHz. The more high-flying 8800GTX will offer 128 stream processors, a 575MHz core clock, 768 MB of memory, and a 1350MHz shader-engine clock. However, individual stats apart, both GPU versions will be SLI ready,while having 16x full-screen anti-aliasing and 128-bit floating point HDR lighting technology. As you said lets hope you can have AA full screen and HDR at same time

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[Incinerate_IV]

WOW. It's a beast, and available next week! Just in time for Medieval 2.

[Arakorn]

Any idea of the price yet? And are there other not-so-high-end cards, like 8800GT?

But anyway, WOW! And I doubt that the AA-HDR issue is still there, manufacturers tend to learn from their mistakes :wink:

[Erik]

Why did they test at those resolutions?
Who plays at 1600x1200/4xAA/16xAF?

And if they must test at those resolutions, why not compare it to the GX2 (which is already a lot faster than X1950 xt-x at those resolutions) ?

Looks like they went for the "OMG! those stats are almost twice as fast" reaction instead of a more informative article on how much fatser this card is in REAL LIFE use.

[Freddie]

Why did they test at those resolutions?
Who plays at 1600x1200/4xAA/16xAF?

Let me guess you own an LCD which only does 1280x1200?

[Erik]

Let me guess you own an LCD which only does 1280x1200?

No, I actually do have a CRT capable of 1600x1200 resolutions.
But I never use that resolution.

[Shaun]

Why did they test at those resolutions?
Who plays at 1600x1200/4xAA/16xAF?

Me.

Anyway, how much will this card cost? I think I will probably get the highest end DX10 card next Christmas, when there is actually a game that can utilise DX10, DX9 games run wth 25FPS with settings at max on 1600x1200 already on my machine, I see no reason why this card will be better until DX10 is used for games.

[OTZ]

Me.

Anyway, how much will this card cost? I think I will probably get the highest end DX10 card next Christmas, when there is actually a game that can utilise DX10, DX9 games run wth 25FPS with settings at max on 1600x1200 already on my machine, I see no reason why this card will be better until DX10 is used for games.

Read the article. The 8800 smashes your xtx into thousands of dead pixels. This card will be top of the line in less than a week - DX10 or not.

[Shaun]

Read the article. The 8800 smashes your xtx into thousands of dead pixels. This card will be top of the line in less than a week - DX10 or not.

But the fact remains that I can still play all of todays games on the highest settings @1600x1200 with an average of 25PFS, I know the new nVidia will beat that, but will it be worth it to spend £££'s more to get more FPS? I dont think so.

And if a top of the range card didnt smash the last top of the range card then it wouldnt be good, I would expect this to be twice as good as my card due to technological advancement. Unfortunetly it will also probably cost around twice as much as my card.

[Germanicus75]

But the fact remains that I can still play all of todays games on the highest settings @1600x1200 with an average of 25PFS, I know the new nVidia will beat that, but will it be worth it to spend £££'s more to get more FPS? I dont think so.

QFT.

[OTZ]

But the fact remains that I can still play all of todays games on the highest settings @1600x1200 with an average of 25PFS, I know the new nVidia will beat that, but will it be worth it to spend £££'s more to get more FPS? I dont think so.

And if a top of the range card didnt smash the last top of the range card then it wouldnt be good, I would expect this to be twice as good as my card due to technological advancement. Unfortunetly it will also probably cost around twice as much as my card.

No need to justify your choice in video cards - you just happened to state that you "did not see a reason" why the 8800 is "better"....

Similar power consumption, up to twice the performance, it's DX 10, and a dozen other reasons why it's better than your xtx....

If you've got the money, then it's definitely worth it.

[Byron Eastridge]

Why did they test at those resolutions?
Who plays at 1600x1200/4xAA/16xAF?

And if they must test at those resolutions, why not compare it to the GX2 (which is already a lot faster than X1950 xt-x at those resolutions) ?

Looks like they went for the "OMG! those stats are almost twice as fast" reaction instead of a more informative article on how much fatser this card is in REAL LIFE use.

perhaps for 20-21 inch LCD users
native resolution is 1600x1200
it performs better at native resolutions

[Arakorn]

Well Erik, wouldn't you play with those settings if you had an uber-machine? :wink:

[Erik]

Well Erik, wouldn't you play with those settings if you had an uber-machine? :wink:

No, because the increase in picture quality from something like 1200x1024+4xAA+8xAF (which is already near perfect resolution for the human eye) doesn't justify the drop in framerates.

[Scarlett Letterman]

So your saying the GPU that hasn't even arrived at my house yet is already outdated?

[Spart]

So your saying the GPU that hasn't even arrived at my house yet is already outdated?

Indeed, that's called technology. And I hate it.

[Erik]

So your saying the GPU that hasn't even arrived at my house yet is already outdated?

No, what I'm saying is that not even newest and best video card can produce good framerates in the latest games (like M2:TW) at the maximum settings. (if they could then game makers would produce even more demanding games)

There will always be a trade-off between picture quality and performance.

And I'm more interested in which card performs the best quality at good performance than which card gives the least crappy performance at maximum settings.

But hey!
If your happy with playing M2:TW at 12 frames per second, then go ahead and max out your settings.

[Germanicus75]

So your saying the GPU that hasn't even arrived at my house yet is already outdated?

Don't worry - based on my experience of the demo anyway, you'll do just fine with the GTO :-)