Early Map Pics

[VINC.XXIII]

Glorious Danny, glorious...

[ExtremeBG]

I can't say for the modern day turkish parts of Black Sea, but on the bulgarian coast there is quite a bit of snow each year. There are drifts of snow up to 1-2 m high and some roads get blocked and become impassable for hours. That being said, due to the global warming during the recent years, we (in Bulgaria) have experienced milder winters with a bit less snow and generally warmer weather than usual.

[Darios]

The Black Sea looks fine around around Romania. The sea actually often freezes over around Constanța during the winter.

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Concerning the mountains, I think I would prefer those found here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post14531699 as they look more varied and diverse. Adds a bit of of immersion (in my opinion).

[danny X]

Thanks, I'll leave the climates as they are then for the moment.

I'm re-doing the mountains atm, I'll probably add snow to the tips on some them and use the high mountain model only for the very high mountains.

Here's how I'm doing so far:





Some textures need to be swapped about a bit, that'll come later.

[Dusan Silni]

Just one question for Danny, will this beta map include all of Hungary or just southern parts of Hungary?

[danny X]

Just one question for Danny, will this beta map include all of Hungary or just southern parts of Hungary?

Yeah, the whole of Hungary is in.

[Ser Gareth]

This map looks terrific! And I like the idea of having the high mountain model for only the very high mountains, I think it looks better that way.

[Darios]

This map looks terrific! And I like the idea of having the high mountain model for only the very high mountains, I think it looks better that way.

Agreed. Fight on Danny)

[IVSTINIANVS I]

Will the Empire of Trebizond be in this mod? I thought I read a reference to it somewhere on a thread...

[danny X]

Will the Empire of Trebizond be in this mod? I thought I read a reference to it somewhere on a thread...

No, the map doesn't go that far East.

[danny X]

Some pictures of Moldovia, I've disabled the textures for the moment - so these are vanilla textures.





I'm about half-way through re-doing the mountains, hopefully I can get that finished this week.

[achilles-91]

Map look wonderfull. Thank you for giving us latest info about progress.

[thekingsmen]

even unfinished the map is much beter than in many other finished mods

[danny X]

Thanks guys, if anyone has any info on where swamps/marshland should be placed that would be very handy

[Darios]

*makes mental note to +rep Danny again ASAP*

Those screenshots put me in the mood for a bit of traveling)

[andrei1]

regarding swamps in moldova area i know swamps or swamp-like formations were present along some rivers and in some river intersections. so in your map you would have swamp similar formation near bacau around river intersections, down in south close to were the prut river goes into the danube, along the nistru river (especially in the north and south of that river). i do not want to be a burden or to criticise the nice work that you did but could you add a little more forests ? That part of the map seems a bit lacking in forests especially because not even today the forests are so few. In those days forests were covering actually 70 to 80 % percent of the land. Most large battles that were fought in that area were near some forests in a clearing (larger or smaller) or in forests. That being said if there is time and possibility could you add some more forests ? thanks. i can look for pictures showing the zones with swamps if you need. just say a word

[danny X]

The trees, hills, marshland (should be the only things left) will be added once I've finished re-doing the mountains and a few other small things.

i can look for pictures showing the zones with swamps if you need. just say a word

That would be great mate, if you find anything post it here

[Darios]

regarding swamps in moldova area i know swamps or swamp-like formations were present along some rivers and in some river intersections. so in your map you would have swamp similar formation near bacau around river intersections, down in south close to were the prut river goes into the danube, along the nistru river (especially in the north and south of that river). i do not want to be a burden or to criticise the nice work that you did but could you add a little more forests ? That part of the map seems a bit lacking in forests especially because not even today the forests are so few. In those days forests were covering actually 70 to 80 % percent of the land. Most large battles that were fought in that area were near some forests in a clearing (larger or smaller) or in forests. That being said if there is time and possibility could you add some more forests ? thanks. i can look for pictures showing the zones with swamps if you need. just say a word

The northern stretches of the Dniester (Nistru in Romanian) aren't really swampy. The area around Hotin and Soroca (right bank of the Dniester) are surprisingly rocky and hilly in comparison to the gentle rolling fields of Podolia on the left bank of the river. The lower lying regions to the south (Braila/Galati region), where the Prut empties into the Danube, is very flat and marshy. The only thing I have ever seen that can compare to it are the swamps in the lowlands around both banks of the Mississippi River.

I agree that Moldova was very forested during the time. It's surprising that before the land was cleared for agriculture during the 19th century the lands were heavily forested. Some regions that hug the Carpathians like Neamt and Bukovina are still heavily forested today.

[andrei1]

i've found something, hope it helps.
In case you are not romanian or don't know romanian i translated what seemed more relevant from the map legend. here it goes

http://www.mastercom.ro/wp-content/u...-de-listat.jpg
translated some of the legend:
Câmpii joase (subsidente) și lunci = lower plains and meadows (or river meadows)
Câmpii piemontane = piedmont plains
Câmpii tabulare = tabular plains
Dealuri cu înălțimi mai mici de 300 de metri = lower than 300 meters height hills
Dealuri subcarpatice = subcarpathian hills
Dealuri cu înălțimi mai mari de 300 de metri = higher than 300 meters height hills

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1/RomVeget.jpg
translated some of the legend:
I. Zona alpină = alpine zone
II. Zona forestieră = forest region
bradului = pine forest
fagului = beech forest
stejarului = oak forest
III. Zona stepei = steppe zone
Stepe cu păduri sau avantstepe = forested steppes
Stepe propriuzise = proper steppes
IV. Păduri de sălcii și plopi = willow and poplar forests
V. Stuhuri = reed (swamp / meadow)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...GeolActual.jpg
This is mostly terrain type / rock type i don't think it is very usefull

http://elearning.masterprof.ro/lecti...a-Romaniei.jpg
similar to first map

[danny X]

Thanks andrei1 those maps will be very handy

I've finished doing the mountains, Turkey was the last bit that needed doing.







I'll be quiet next week as I'm busy in RL, but the map should be finished before July. The next thing will be to do a finished map preview sometime over the next 3 or 4 weeks.

Thanks guys.