-Unrelated Thread- MK8 DLC Rant

[Aquos4]

Okay, so in a recent twitter post, Nintendo showed this:

Link on a Motorcycle colored to look like the Master Sword while being shaped somewhat like a horse. Nintendo had this to say:
"The Master Cycle is part of the first DLC pack for Mario Kart 8 and has plenty of horse power." Nice wordplay Nintendo, but this brings up an important issue; pay-to-play DLC. When Treyarch (Call of Duty people) or RockStar (GTA people) or maybe even Bungie/343i (Halo people) release pay-to-play DLC they're shunned for it, but when Nintendo does it, they're almost universally praised? I'm starting to see what Neph, among other people, meant when they said that people put Nintendo on too high of a pedestal, that "Anything another game company can do we can do better, sooner or later we'll be better than you." Okay, sorry with quoting showtunes, but that was just too good a chance to pass up.

What I'm trying to say is, why is it that when a company like Treyarch, Rockstar, or 343i release pay-to-play DLC people get mad, but when Nintendo does it they get almost nothing but praise? Sure, this isn't anywhere near as bad as CoD releasing DLC on the first day the game is out instead of just including those maps/guns/whatever, but why make us pay for it? Yes, the combined price of all the confirmed DLC for MK8 is only around $19, and that's a lot cheaper than getting all the DLC for a CoD game. A valid counter-argument however would be that this DLC probably hasn't been in production since before the game was even launched and that big stuff like this shouldn't be free since it took a lot of work to model new characters, (as far as I know, Link is so far the only NEW character that isn't a recolor) come up with unique and fun ideas for tracks, come up with music for said tracks, etc etc.

What do you guys think? I encourage friendly debate in the comments, emphasis on friendly.​

[IAmNotShazam]

this isn't anywhere near as bad as CoD releasing DLC on the first day the game is out instead of just including those maps/guns/whatever, but why make us pay for it? Yes, the combined price of all the confirmed DLC for MK8 is only around $19, and that's a lot cheaper than getting all the DLC for a CoD game.​

That's why. Nintendo doesn't go full like say, EA. That's literally all there is to it. The closest they've come to that is the Fire Emblem Awakening DLC. The Einherjar sagas are a tremendous waste if you aren't a longtime FE fan (the references are beautiful if you are and Rogues & Redeemers 3 is like an FE fan's wet dream come to life). If Awakening's your first Emblem? Get the Future Past and maybe the Scrambles. They've done shady things like with Mario Golf, but it's not as bad as those other guys. That being said, you know we aren't in a good spot when "it's not EA" is a valid reason. EA installs blatant Malware on your system, Nintendo doesn't.

tl;dr: Nintendo uses lube when they rape you, the others don't.

[tedster1995]

Plus the dlc for mario kart is a tonne of new content ( 3 characters, 2 cups-8 new courses and i believe 4 new vehicles) which i feel is very good value for £7 plus as others have said its not force fed through a spoon nintendo have released some free dlc as well so i dont mind it. Compared of course to paying £2.50 for one character and 2 or 3 costumes which is bad value for what you get.

[IAmNotShazam]

Compared of course to paying £2.50 for one character and 2 or 3 costumes which is bad value for what you get.

Well, no, they've done that too. The Einherjar sagas in Awakening net you a bonus map based off a previous game and a famous FE character with a new design. I.E. the first DLC got you Marth.

The irony is you can get two other Marths from Spotpass (which IS free) and the DLC Marth isn't nearly as good as King Marth. DLC just has Aptitude compared to King Marth's Rightful King.

[Drazule]

They could be Maxis and release the same game 4 times so you have to buy the same ten expansions each time.

[IAmNotShazam]

Oh God it reached a crescendo with Sims 4.

89 features missing are you ing with me.

[Aquos4]

You all bring up some very valid points, and Shazam's TL;DR had me in stitches. I'm just worried that this might be the beginning of Nintendo going down a very dark path in an attempt to get annual net profit as opposed to annual net loss of over $20 mil a year.

[starwars90001]

their not dong on disk DLC or cut out content are they, that's the real problem with DLC.

[Aquos4]

their not dong on disk DLC or cut out content are they, that's the real problem with DLC.

That's a very good point, hopefully the big N never stoops to that level.

[starwars90001]

yeah, for me if their just adding content that's not important part of the game and just adds to the express, then I have no problem, look at fallout, bioshock, hell HTW that's DLC done right. but if it was a part of the game and was just cut out, or left on with a code to open it, that's what destroys companies.

[Drazule]

To be fair, Nobody ever would have expected Link to be in a Mario Kart game. Its not like that isn't the most optional thing for that game ever.

[Aquos4]

To be fair, Nobody ever would have expected Link to be in a Mario Kart game. Its not like that isn't the most optional thing for that game ever.

I was more so expecting a complete cross-franchise racer, basically if Super Smash Brothers was a kart racer instead of a fighting game.

[Lortano]

Well I like to think that at least Nintendo is not stooping to EA levels of scum. If EA made Rome 2, the game would only get you the menu. You'd have to pay an extra £10 to play as Rome.

[UndyingNephalim]

I guess I should not be surprised that no one is even raising an eyebrow or sighing in disappointment at the fact that Link was actually shoved onto a mechanical motorcycle and put into a wacky racing game in the first place.

[Drazule]

Nothing is sacred. Just be happy it took them 20 years before they thought this was a good idea.

[UndyingNephalim]

Nothing is sacred. Just be happy it took them 20 years before they thought this was a good idea.

Case in point: http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/w...zergnet_287722

I guess we just got obnoxiously lucky that none of these hilariously stupid ideas made it into Zelda until Spirit Tracks.

[Aquos4]

Case in point: http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/w...zergnet_287722

I guess we just got obnoxiously lucky that none of these hilariously stupid ideas made it into Zelda until Spirit Tracks.

I honestly can't look at that article without thinking that Miyamoto and Tazuka were never legitimately considering having Link shoot lasers, and it was all just a joke. Well, maybe Tazuka, because I do know that Miyamoto is a rather silly guy.

[UndyingNephalim]

Miyamoto is a rather silly guy.

Miyamoto wanted a machine gun in Twilight Princess. Somehow that transformed into Link's Crossbow Training.

Seriously how did the Zelda series become so "sacred" in the video game industry?

[CommyXD26]

Seriously how did the Zelda series become so "sacred" in the video game industry?

AI am always worried about anything that reaches worship level besides religion. Though just by looking at the "Related content" of the page you gave, Neph, we can all see how peep go crazy just about every single tiny aspect/info of a Zelda game and create it into a debate/rumor/theory. I mean, are there any game in the world that is looked into details like "is that truly the main character in the footage?(DUDE WE KNOW IT)", "Is Skyloft the New Delfino Plaza?(WTF???)". I recommend reading the article "Aonuma excited by reaction to Zelda Wii U" to understand more: http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/a...customization/

[CommyXD26]

I think that we'll have to wait and see if this DLC brings sth new yet balanced or gives the paying players sth that has more advantage (like new kart's faster speed or drift, implied in the description "has plenty of horse power") than the non-paying.

Nothing is sacred. Just be happy it took them 20 years before they thought this was a good idea.

I'm not surprised when they put Link into a racing game. Some time ago, Sega put Team Fortress 2 characters into their own racing game, and I was like:"lolwtf are you serious?".