"No more budget cut" - France openly defies Brussels' policy

[hellheaven1987]

France submits its annual budget to Brussels on Wednesday, disregarding calls from EU officials to introduce more cuts.

With left-wing MPs deeply unhappy over austerity, President Francois Hollande's government looks set not only for a rebuttal from the EU but for a rebellion in the National Assembly in Paris as well.

Whatever hopes the officials in Brussels had of softening the French stance, these have been dashed.

No, France will not review its annual budget for 2015.

"The European Commission doesn't have the power to 'reject' or 'censure' the budget," Finance Minister Michel Sapin said earlier this week. "Here, sovereignty belongs to the parliament."

His words echoed those of Prime Minister Manuel Valls, who said France was "a big country that should be respected". In other words, nothing will persuade France to change its plans.

Earlier this month France put forward an annual budget that included 21bn euros (£17bn; $27bn) of cuts - but admitted it would miss its EU deficit target of 3% of GDP for the third time.

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French only tries to be brave in strange time; regardless, I wonder whether this would give other members an excuse to stop the general budget cut policy in Europe, and hence discredit Brussels and EU as whole.

[Basil II the B.S]

Hollande needs to reward his voters somehow and the French budget is out of control. Socialists failing, nothing new here.

Proof:
Economics Nobel laureate tells France to 'downsize the state'

http://www.france24.com/en/20141013-...source=twitter

[Nicov55]

Hollande needs to reward his voters somehow and the French budget is out of control. Socialists failing, nothing new here.

Proof:
Economics Nobel laureate tells France to 'downsize the state'

http://www.france24.com/en/20141013-...source=twitter

Socialism in France is nothing more than taking money from those who work hard and create wealth in order to give it to a vast clientele of civil servants, associations of any kind spreading their doxa in schools, suburbs, media and other parasites.
The good thing is that a majority everyday more important of us are seeing clearly the truth and i have good hopes that with their huge failure coming, we will finally be able to get rid of these people once and for all.

[Lord of Nihilism]

Vive la France. I've said it before and I'll say it now; France is the premiere power within the EU and Europe and not even the Germans can force France to submit. Us Frenchmen have been at war for centuries and thus we're no strangers to conflict and hardship, so the Germans can complain all they want that France isn't following the rules that were set by the Germans, but the fact remains that France decides French laws and budgets...not German men and women in Berlin.


With that being said, Hollande needs to go simply because he's not suitable to lead France as evident by his economic policies.

EDIT:" spelling errors.

[The Wandering Storyteller]

Vive la France. I've said it before and I'll say it now; France is the premiere power within the EU and Europe and not even the Germans can force France to submit. Us Frenchmen have been at war for centuries and thus we're no strangers to conflict and hardship, so the Germans can complain all they want that France isn't following the rules that were set by the Germans, but the fact remains that France decides French laws and budgets...not German men and women in Berlin.


With that being said, Hollande needs to go simply because he's not suitable to lead France as evident by his economic policies.

EDIT:" spelling errors.

If its one thing I read about the French: Leadership automactially comes to the French. If you can lead you are strong,if weak you are not fit to lead.

[Humanoid293]

[...]so the Germans can complain all they want that France isn't following the rules that were set by the Germans, but the fact remains that France decides French laws and budgets...not German men and women in Berlin.[...]

I would be interested in learning where you got the notion "German men and women in Berlin" would decide French laws and budgets from.

Apart from that, where does the french budget go to ?

[Nicov55]

I would be interested in learning where you got the notion "German men and women in Berlin" would decide French laws and budgets from. ?

Typical statement from the left wing parties in France; unable to understand the world we live in and certainly not willing to do any reform that would "hurt" their clientele. So they have to blame someone, the Germans, the Eu, big businesses and so on...

Apart from that, where does the french budget go to? ?

Mostly social policies: social security system, unemployment benefit, housing subsidy and so on...
Also the national Ministry of education: totally uneficient crypto marxist bureaucratic hell in the exclusive service of it's employees and certainly not the students.

After you've paid for all that which i may resume with the word "socialism", there is of course nothing left for investment. The same investment they are now asking from the EU...

[Admiral Piett]

Vive la France. I've said it before and I'll say it now; France is the premiere power within the EU and Europe and not even the Germans can force France to submit. Us Frenchmen have been at war for centuries and thus we're no strangers to conflict and hardship, so the Germans can complain all they want that France isn't following the rules that were set by the Germans, but the fact remains that France decides French laws and budgets...not German men and women in Berlin.


With that being said, Hollande needs to go simply because he's not suitable to lead France as evident by his economic policies.

EDIT:" spelling errors.

It looks like we lost the Cold War in France if this is the prevailing attitude. If France wants not to just dash for the fiscal cliff, but go ahead and jump right off it, we can just hope the EU has prepared itself not to put a trampoline for France at the bottom and simply cut the stakes so that it doesn't drag the rest down with it.

[6th Vigil]

It looks like we lost the Cold War in France if this is the prevailing attitude. If France wants not to just dash for the fiscal cliff, but go ahead and jump right off it, we can just hope the EU has prepared itself not to put a trampoline for France at the bottom and simply cut the stakes so that it doesn't drag the rest down with it.

He's Canadian so you can take his views how you will.

The French government is in a difficult position where they need to carry out gruelling reforms and reduce their state sector but this will just push more people towards Front National. Taking this into account, and France's economic size, Brussels is almost certainly going to make concessions to Hollande and therefore piss off the other struggling economies of the eurozone, unfortunately.

It's stories like this that just occasionally remind you how god awful Europe is doing, relatively speaking.

[Nicov55]

The French government is in a difficult position where they need to carry out gruelling reforms and reduce their state sector but this will just push more people towards Front National.

On the contrary, i believe that the lack of significant reforms and shameless clientelism is what is pushing people towards the FN.
Employees from the state sector and immigrants are those (and the only ones) who benefit the socialist policies so they vote for them in massive proportion in order to keep their privileges: socialism and clientelism are consubstantial.

The socialists since Mitterrand have done anything possible to favor the growth of the FN in order to weaken the traditional conservative parties; they are doing just the same today.

[Pielstick]

Ironic perhaps that at the very same time France tells Brussels that French government spending is a sovereign French matter.....

....Manuel Valls tells the UK it will not be allowed to place any limits or restrictions on EU migrants entering the UK.


What's good for the goose...

[Kaiser Nonsense]

Finally someone with some balls to defy this demonic EU.

[Dromikaites]

The real defiance would have been to cut nothing.

21 billion euro budget cuts are BIG cuts by all standards, even though they fail to keep the budget deficit below the 3% deficit mark.

The French might be "defiant" but not suicidal. Not having cut those 21 billions would have guaranteed a collapse.

[Knight of Heaven]

That is irrelevant, you apply austerity acording to your possibilities, that is the point, otherwise you squeeze everything out without looking at the consequences, as it is happening in Greece and Portugal.
Being France has its benefits evidently so.

[Costin_Razvan]

The problem with the EU is that Brusseles is trying to rule it as if it was some centralized state when it lacks the power do so. The arrogance is pissing people off.

I support the EU, and I do want a European State, but to hell with Brusseles, The Hague, Strasbourg and the European Court of Human Right.

[Nicov55]

The problem with the EU is that Brusseles is trying to rule it as if it was some centralized state when it lacks the power do so. The arrogance is pissing people off.

I support the EU, and I do want a European State, but to hell with Brusseles, The Hague, Strasbourg and the European Court of Human Right.

A common currency whithout a common fiscal, social policy and legislation is doomed from the start.

[Adar]

A common currency whithout a common fiscal, social policy and legislation is doomed from the start.

The common currency is the Euro, not the EU.

[Thorn777]

A common currency whithout a common fiscal, social policy and legislation is doomed from the start.

An economic system that needs annual 3% GDP growth in order to sustain a balanced budget is doomed from the start. Spescially when that system is in the hands of a foreign power calling the ratings, can print themselves as much as they like while exporting their inflation by such things as underwriting every single Euro by 70% $'s and by safely funneling the many $'s to import back into the wallstreet-recycling system and as such simply growing because of buying on debt.

We need to get away from that. Everything else is secondary and irrelavant if you stay with this nonsense.

[justicar5]

The problem with the EU is that Brusseles is trying to rule it as if it was some centralized state when it lacks the power do so. The arrogance is pissing people off.

I support the EU, and I do want a European State, but to hell with Brusseles, The Hague, Strasbourg and the European Court of Human Right.

ECHR Is not an EU organisation. Never has been.

[Nicov55]

ICJ is a UN branch, not EU.