Custom helmets and crests

[S.V.K.]

Hey guys,

I´ve a problem and so I need some help to resolve my problem.
Situation:

I´m trying to add a crest to a helmet. But There is a problem. I can make it work.
The helmets are custom models..

For example: I tried to add a roman crest (kaz_roman_centurion_crest_red.rigid_model_v2) to a customhelmet from DEI-Mod (<VARIANT_MESH model="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/helmets/itallic_typeH.rigid_model_v2" imposter_model="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/helmets/roman_gallic.rigid_model_v2" > ).
I also tried to add a normal crest to the amazing helmet from the Spartan King Guard mod. The same problem.

If, the crest appaers in the middle of the unit, not at the top. The question is: WHY?

Hope, someone has a solution or leatswise a explanation, why it´s not possible

THX

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

First you need to make your own VMD of the helmet, then select the helmet from the list you want to add a crest to. (some are weird and can't add)

and then you have 2 slots you can add stuff to. but you have to click on the Boolean Value to activate its right place.

[S.V.K.]

Excellent. Thanks. I´ll try to handle it.

[S.V.K.]

OK... thanks.But... what tool is that?

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

its the Assembly kit You used it to compile a VDM file
you can download it from steam under tools in your library

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

Remember it is easy! there are some great guides to read up on.

[S.V.K.]

Looks like my problem is still the same:



As you can see at the screen, I can add the top crest, but it´s on the false position...
How can I adjust that?

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

Hey are you using Pfm? if you do, you can open it as a text file and edit it like this:
<VARIANT_MESH>
<SLOT name="helmets" >
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/steppe_thraco_attic.rigid_model_v2" >
<SLOT name="top_crests" attach_point="crest_centre" />
<SLOT name="side_crests" >
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/african_headwrap_2.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/african_headwrap_2.rigid_model_v2" mask0="1" mask1="0" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/african_headwrap_2.rigid_model_v2" mask0="2" mask2="0" />
</SLOT>
</VARIANT_MESH>
</SLOT>
</VARIANT_MESH>


So in that way you can "force" it to have it, not sure it can work as it seems to be a player made 3d mesh.

OR even better open the newly create helmet file with Wordpad and edit it that way, You DON'T need pfm for that sorry.

And this helmet I have made is a better example:
<VARIANT_MESH>
<SLOT name="helmets" >
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/hellenic_thracian_4.rigid_model_v2" >
<SLOT name="top_crests" attach_point="crest_centre" >
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\crests/thracian_crest_1_blue.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\crests/thracian_crest_1_red.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\crests/thracian_crest_2_blue.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\crests/thracian_crest_2_red.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\crests/hoplite_tall_crest_1_red.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\crests/phyrgian_crest_1_red.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\crests/tall_ridge_crest_1_red.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\crests/tall_ridge_crest_1_purple.rigid_model_v2" />
</SLOT>
<SLOT name="side_crests" >
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/african_headwrap_2.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/african_headwrap_2.rigid_model_v2" mask0="1" mask1="0" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/african_headwrap_2.rigid_model_v2" mask0="2" mask2="0" />
</SLOT>
</VARIANT_MESH>
</SLOT>
</VARIANT_MESH>

[S.V.K.]

However thanks.

Maybe someone else can help me out. If not it will not kill me.

But if, the result would be awesome!

[Kerag]

However thanks.

Maybe someone else can help me out. If not it will not kill me.

But if, the result would be awesome!

I have the same exact problem!
However Ive come up with an idea.
Ee could add a dummy invisible helmet with those attacment points and add it trough armor mesh viraible. And add crest to that. If only someone could make such mesh. Im no good with 3D modelling in R2

[S.V.K.]

That is exact what I did, but it has no effekt. THAT is the problem

This is the original code; there is no mistake in it. But the crest isn´t where it has to be. I the same problem with the greek helmets from Spartan King Guard mod.
It´s always a custom helmet. And I have absolut no idea why. And yes, I work a lot with PFM.

<VARIANT_MESH>
<SLOT name="type" >
<VARIANT_MESH>
<SLOT name="skin" >
<VARIANT_MESH_REFERENCE definition="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/skin/roman_game_skin1.VariantMeshDefinition" />
</SLOT>
<SLOT name="helmets" >
<VARIANT_MESH model="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/helmets/itallic_typeH.rigid_model_v2" imposter_model="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/helmets/roman_gallic.rigid_model_v2" >
<SLOT name="top_crests" attach_point="crest_centre" >
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\crests/kaz_roman_centurion_crest_white.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\crests/kaz_roman_centurion_crest_red.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\crests/kaz_roman_centurion_crest_black.rigid_model_v2" />
</SLOT>
<SLOT name="side_crests" />
</VARIANT_MESH>
</SLOT>
<SLOT name="torso" >
<VARIANT_MESH_REFERENCE definition="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/armour/gemina_ptergusb_leather.VariantMeshDefinition" />
<VARIANT_MESH_REFERENCE definition="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/armour/gemina_ptergusd_leather.VariantMeshDefinition" />
</SLOT>
<SLOT name="clothing" >
<VARIANT_MESH model="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/armour/gemina_segmentata_c.rigid_model_v2" />
</SLOT>
<SLOT name="cloaks" >
<VARIANT_MESH_REFERENCE definition="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/cloak/praetorian_elite_officer_cloak.VariantMeshDefinition" />
<VARIANT_MESH_REFERENCE definition="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/cloak/imperatoris_officer_cloak.VariantMeshDefinition" />
<VARIANT_MESH_REFERENCE definition="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/cloak/praetorian_cloak.VariantMeshDefinition" />
</SLOT>
<SLOT name="greaves" >
<VARIANT_MESH_REFERENCE definition="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/greaves/kaz_roman_greaves_01.VariantMeshDefinition" />
</SLOT>
<SLOT name="shield" attach_point="weapon_03" >
<VARIANT_MESH_REFERENCE definition="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/shield/kaz_roman_praetorian_scutum.VariantMeshDefinition" />
<VARIANT_MESH_REFERENCE definition="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/shield/roman_velites5.VariantMeshDefinition" />
</SLOT>
<SLOT name="weapon_1" />
<SLOT name="weapon_2" attach_point="weapon_02" >
<VARIANT_MESH model="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/weapons/roman_gladius.rigid_model_v2" />
</SLOT>
<SLOT name="weapon_3" />
<SLOT name="weapon_4" attach_point="weapon_05" >
<VARIANT_MESH model="VariantMeshes/_VariantModels/man/weapons/roman_pilum_heavy.rigid_model_v2" />
</SLOT>
</VARIANT_MESH>

</SLOT>
</VARIANT_MESH>

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

Can't see any error in the text, and just tried what I recommend with roman_gallic helmet, with a crest.
It seems I can't neither get it to work, I believe the suppose model isn't made for crest combination.

I am sorry I Think I can't help you, to implement a 3d crest point is beyond me.
Normally most helmets got a attachment point.

Here is the "none skinned" helmet I made long time ago:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

<VARIANT_MESH>
<SLOT name="helmets" >
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/roman_gallic.rigid_model_v2" >
<SLOT name="top_crests" >
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/olive_wreath_01.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/olive_wreath_02.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/olive_wreath_03.rigid_model_v2" />
</SLOT>
<SLOT name="side_crests" >
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/african_headwrap_2.rigid_model_v2" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/african_headwrap_2.rigid_model_v2" mask0="1" mask1="0" />
<VARIANT_MESH model="variantmeshes\_variantmodels\man\helmets/african_headwrap_2.rigid_model_v2" mask0="2" mask2="0" />
</SLOT>
</VARIANT_MESH>
</SLOT>
</VARIANT_MESH>