I used this oneOriginally Posted by Gigantus
https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...dvanced-users)
Campidoctor
Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
I used this one
https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...dvanced-users)
My sister, do you still recall the blue Hasan and Khalkhin-Gol?
Russian warship is winning. Proofs needed? Go find yourself!
I am not special - I am a limited edition.
Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
That's the one I was thinking about.
Civis
Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
Ok, thanks! I've always wondered about it. Appreciate it!
Civis
Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
This is actually correct. I now remember reading this many years ago somewhere and it is true. Thanks for reminding us!
Campidoctor
Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
I think that HR may affect some other mechanics. In BellumCrucis 6.3 local submod we got a problem which came from original mod - AI doesn't recruit any ships and merchants. And this is not campaign_script issue.
As I mentioned with Mongols - original BC team used horde_target HR not only for hording purposes but also for AOR and multiplied it in descr_regions. Also some vanilla HRs were deleted (such as explorers_guild for example). This issue with ships and merchants is still unsolved and after reading this thread I think that the deal is in HR. Any ideas which one could be a problem?
Here is a list of HRs from BC 6.3
Code:hidden_resources sardegna atlantic teutonic_knights_chapter_house knights_of_santiago_chapter_house crusade jihad horde_target no_pirates no_brigands AORtemplari AORgiovanni AORmontesa not_here commercio scozia irlanda inghilterra francia nordspagna sudspagna fiandre germania norditalia suditalia scandinavia polonia lituania ungheria iugoslavia carpazia bizantinia russianord russiacentro bulgaria alania turchia georgia armenia est terrasanta africaovest africaest olive grapes textiles0 minierasale palmeto canapa segale caccia0 carbone0 ebraismo1 ebraismo2 lazzariti calatrava alcantara tau pisani genovesi veneziani catsar tedeschi fiamminghi riverport
My sister, do you still recall the blue Hasan and Khalkhin-Gol?
Russian warship is winning. Proofs needed? Go find yourself!
Civis
Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
Did you try putting "arguin" back in just to see what happens?
Maybe that weird HR had something to do with your current problem. I don't see it in your list there.
I am not special - I am a limited edition.
Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
You do know you can use plugins to act as hidden resource? Not advisable to use hard coded HRs for other purposes.
Do the ships have a recruit_priority entry? High recruit costs?
Any additional requirements for merchants? High recruit costs?
Last edited by Gigantus; March 11, 2021 at 08:11 PM.
Campidoctor
Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
I know that, but here we got a project to improve made by another team. It's nearly perfect, great details. It deserves to be fixed!Not advisable to use hard coded HRs for other purposes.
Here are EDB examples for merchants
Another example of building to hire themCode:{ corn_exchange requires factions { northern_european, mesoamerican, middle_eastern, nativeindian, eastern_european, greek, southern_european, } { capability { agent merchant 0 requires factions { northern_european, mesoamerican, } agent merchant 0 requires factions { middle_eastern, nativeindian, } agent merchant 0 requires factions { eastern_european, } agent merchant 0 requires factions { greek, } agent merchant 0 requires factions { southern_european, } trade_base_income_bonus bonus 1 income_bonus bonus 150 requires building_present_min_level city_hall town_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers and not building_present_min_level city_hall city_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall mayors_palace income_bonus bonus 300 requires building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers and not building_present_min_level city_hall town_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall city_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall mayors_palace income_bonus bonus 600 requires building_present_min_level city_hall city_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall town_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers and not building_present_min_level city_hall mayors_palace income_bonus bonus 1200 requires building_present_min_level city_hall mayors_palace and not building_present_min_level city_hall town_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers and not building_present_min_level city_hall city_hall income_bonus bonus 400 requires building_present_min_level hinterland_campo_canapa campo_canapa and not building_present_min_level hinterland_campo_canapa zuccherificio income_bonus bonus 800 requires building_present_min_level hinterland_campo_canapa zuccherificio and not building_present_min_level hinterland_campo_canapa campo_canapa agent_limit merchant 1 requires factions { all, } and not event_counter ai_player 1 agent_limit merchant 2 requires factions { all, } and event_counter ai_player 1 } material wooden construction 4 cost 900 settlement_min town upgrades { market } }
Descr_cultures for them same for all factionsCode:building bank { levels merchant_bank merchant_vault { merchant_bank requires factions { northern_european, mesoamerican, middle_eastern, nativeindian, eastern_european, greek, southern_european, } and event_counter lettera_cambio_discovered 1 and hidden_resource commercio { capability { trade_base_income_bonus bonus 1 income_bonus bonus 125 income_bonus bonus 1200 requires building_present_min_level city_hall town_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers and not building_present_min_level city_hall city_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall mayors_palace income_bonus bonus 2400 requires building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers and not building_present_min_level city_hall town_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall city_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall mayors_palace income_bonus bonus 4800 requires building_present_min_level city_hall city_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall town_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers and not building_present_min_level city_hall mayors_palace income_bonus bonus 9600 requires building_present_min_level city_hall mayors_palace and not building_present_min_level city_hall town_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers and not building_present_min_level city_hall city_hall agent_limit merchant 2 requires factions { all, } and not event_counter ai_player 1 agent_limit merchant 4 requires factions { all, } and event_counter ai_player 1 } material stone construction 8 cost 7200 settlement_min large_city upgrades { merchant_vault } } merchant_vault requires factions { byzantium, normans, egypt, venice, sicily, pisa, } and event_counter lettera_cambio_discovered 1 and hidden_resource commercio { capability { trade_base_income_bonus bonus 2 income_bonus bonus 250 income_bonus bonus 2400 requires building_present_min_level city_hall town_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers and not building_present_min_level city_hall city_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall mayors_palace income_bonus bonus 4800 requires building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers and not building_present_min_level city_hall town_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall city_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall mayors_palace income_bonus bonus 9600 requires building_present_min_level city_hall city_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall town_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers and not building_present_min_level city_hall mayors_palace income_bonus bonus 19200 requires building_present_min_level city_hall mayors_palace and not building_present_min_level city_hall town_hall and not building_present_min_level city_hall council_chambers and not building_present_min_level city_hall city_hall agent_limit merchant 3 requires factions { all, } and not event_counter ai_player 1 agent_limit merchant 6 requires factions { all, } and event_counter ai_player 1 } material stone construction 10 cost 14400 settlement_min huge_city upgrades { } } } plugins { } }
As for ships - EDUCode:spy spy.tga spy_info.tga spy.tga 750 1 1 assassin assassin.tga assassin_info.tga assassin.tga 1000 1 1 diplomat diplomat.tga diplomat_info.tga diplomat.tga 500 1 1 admiral admiral.tga admiral_info.tga admiral.tga 250 1 1 merchant merchant.tga merchant_info.tga merchant.tga 350 1 1 priest priest.tga priest_info.tga priest.tga 250 1 1
EDB example for second level castle portCode:;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;NAVY AND SIEGE UNITS;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; type baghlah dictionary baghlah ; Baghlah category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 50, 0, 1 ship heavy warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 18, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 22, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 22, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 16, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 1150, 350, 250, 250, 1150, 4, 280 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership middle_eastern, nativeindian recruit_priority_offset 140 ;unit_info 18, 0, 22 type caravel dictionary caravel ; Caravel category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 30, 0, 1 ship heavy warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit, modello_carrack formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 15, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 15, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 15, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 10, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 850, 275, 200, 200, 850, 4, 210 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership portugal, spain, aragon recruit_priority_offset 140 ;unit_info 15, 0, 15 type carrack dictionary carrack ; Carrack category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 50, 0, 1 ship heavy warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit, modello_carrack formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 30, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 30, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 30, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 10, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 1500, 350, 250, 250, 1500, 4, 370 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership eastern_european, greek, southern_european, northern_european, mesoamerican, cumans recruit_priority_offset 140 ;unit_info 30, 0, 30 type cog dictionary cog ; Cog category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 20, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 5, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 8, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 8, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 16, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 500, 150, 100, 100, 500, 4, 120 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership england, hre, france, barons, scotland, poland, portugal, spain recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 5, 0, 8 type dhow dictionary dhow ; Dhow category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 20, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 5, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 6, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 6, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 16, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 470, 150, 100, 100, 470, 4, 110 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership middle_eastern, nativeindian recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 5, 0, 6 type dragon boat dictionary dragon_boat ; Dragon Boat category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 30, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit, modello_drakkar formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 12, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 10, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 10, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 16, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 670, 200, 150, 150, 670, 4, 160 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership denmark, saxons recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 12, 0, 10 type dromon dictionary dromon ; Dromon category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 30, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 7, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 9, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 9, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 16, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 600, 150, 100, 100, 600, 4, 150 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership greek recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 7, 0, 9 type fire ship dictionary fire_ship ; Fire Ship category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 30, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 16, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 10, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 10, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 16, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 700, 200, 150, 150, 700, 4, 170 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership all recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 16, 0, 10 type galleass dictionary galleass ; Galleass category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 40, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 26, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 20, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 20, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 10, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 1150, 275, 200, 200, 1150, 4, 280 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership southern_european, hungary, cumans recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 26, 0, 20 type galley dictionary galley ; Galley category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 20, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 8, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 7, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 7, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 16, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 520, 150, 100, 100, 520, 4, 130 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership sicily, milan, pisa, venice, normans, hungary, papal_states, aragon recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 8, 0, 7 type grande carrack dictionary grande_carrack ; Grande Carrack category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 60, 0, 1 ship heavy warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit, modello_carrack formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 35, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 35, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 35, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 10, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 1900, 350, 250, 250, 1900, 4, 470 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership portugal, spain, aragon recruit_priority_offset 140 ;unit_info 35, 0, 35 type gun holk dictionary gun_holk ; Gun Holk category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 30, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 16, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 16, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 16, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 10, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 800, 275, 200, 200, 800, 4, 200 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership northern_european, mesoamerican, poland, russia, novgorod, emirs recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 16, 0, 16 type holk dictionary holk ; Holk category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 30, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 10, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 12, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 12, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 16, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 670, 200, 150, 150, 670, 4, 160 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership hre, scotland, france, barons, england, russia, novgorod, poland, portugal, emirs recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 10, 0, 12 type ladya dictionary ladya ; Lad'Ya category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 30, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit, modello_drakkar formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 10, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 4, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 10, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 570, 150, 100, 100, 570, 4, 140 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership russia, novgorod, cumans, emirs recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 10, 0, 4 type lanternas dictionary lanternas ; Lanternas category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 40, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 18, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 18, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 18, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 10, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 970, 275, 200, 200, 970, 4, 240 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership middle_eastern, nativeindian, greek recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 18, 0, 18 type longboat dictionary longboat ; Longboat category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 20, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit, modello_drakkar formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 8, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 5, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 5, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 16, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 500, 150, 100, 100, 500, 4, 120 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership denmark, saxons recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 8, 0, 5 type war galley dictionary war_galley ; War Galley category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 30, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 12, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 12, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 12, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 16, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 700, 200, 150, 150, 700, 4, 170 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership hungary, southern_european, middle_eastern, nativeindian, cumans recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 12, 0, 12 type italic galley dictionary italic_galley ; War Galley category ship class light voice_type Light soldier Peasants, 30, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 16, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 16, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 12, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 16, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 880, 250, 200, 200, 880, 4, 200 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership all recruit_priority_offset 100 ;unit_info 12, 0, 12 type pirate ship dictionary pirate_ship ; Pirate Ship category ship class light voice_type Light accent English soldier Peasants, 20, 0, 1 ship light warship attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit formation 50, 50, 75, 75, 1, square stat_health 1, 0 stat_pri 10, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, slashing, none, 25, 1 ;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_pri_attr no stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1 ;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0 stat_sec_attr no stat_pri_armour 0, 10, 0, flesh ;stat_armour_ex 0, 0, 0, 0, 10, 0, 0, flesh stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh stat_heat 0 stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0 stat_mental 16, normal, trained stat_charge_dist 30 stat_fire_delay 0 stat_food 60, 300 stat_cost 1, 470, 150, 100, 100, 470, 4, 140 stat_stl 4 armour_ug_levels 0 armour_ug_models Peasants ownership slave recruit_priority_offset 80 ;unit_info 10, 0, 10
Code:c_port castle requires factions { northern_european, mesoamerican, middle_eastern, nativeindian, eastern_european, greek, southern_european, } { capability { ;level I trade_base_income_bonus bonus 2 recruit_pool "cog" 1 1 3 0 requires factions { england, portugal, } recruit_pool "cog" 1 0.2 3 0 requires factions { hre, scotland, barons, spain, } recruit_pool "cog" 1 0.1 3 0 requires factions { france, poland, } recruit_pool "longboat" 1 1 3 0 requires factions { denmark, saxons, } recruit_pool "dhow" 1 1 3 0 requires factions { moors, egypt, } recruit_pool "dhow" 1 0.2 3 0 requires factions { turks, zenghids, timurids, } recruit_pool "dhow" 1 0.1 3 0 requires factions { mongols, } recruit_pool "ladya" 1 1 3 0 requires factions { novgorod, emirs, } recruit_pool "ladya" 1 0.2 3 0 requires factions { russia, } recruit_pool "ladya" 1 0.1 3 0 requires factions { cumans, } recruit_pool "dromon" 1 1 3 0 requires factions { byzantium, } recruit_pool "dromon" 1 0.2 3 0 requires factions { aztecs, } recruit_pool "galley" 1 1 3 0 requires factions { sicily, aragon, pisa, venice, } recruit_pool "galley" 1 0.2 3 0 requires factions { normans, papal_states, } recruit_pool "galley" 1 0.1 3 0 requires factions { hungary, milan, } } material wooden construction 4 cost 1600 settlement_min large_town upgrades { c_shipwright } }
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My sister, do you still recall the blue Hasan and Khalkhin-Gol?
Russian warship is winning. Proofs needed? Go find yourself!
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Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
Nothing in the coding that should prevent merchant or ship recruitment for the AI. I am not too familiar with the recruit_priority_offset numbers but I am assuming the higher the number the lesser the chance of recruiting. 100 and 140 should be fine, although in 1648 we used very low numbers in general. Maybe run a trial with the line disabled?
The event counter for the merchants will not make a difference on whether you can recruit one, only how many per building, so even if the counter wasn't being set they should get recruited.
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Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
I believe that the higher recruit_priority_offset is, the more likely is the AI to recruit the unit, right? Not vice versa
I suppose also try increasing the ship stats, and decreasing price/upkeep. And enable naval invasions in descr_sm_factions
Campidoctor
Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
All the advised things was done by me, I posted initial data from mod.
I set recruit_priority to high numbers (I believe higher number increases recruit - I lowered it for siege engines in Westetos mod and don't see them anymore in AI armies), added attack value in EDU, even placed ships recordings at the top of EDU (they were placed in the end), set naval_invasions yes in descr_sm_factions. No result.
But when I broke Mongol invasion with incorrect horde_target I believe that here is something similar with ships and merchants.
My sister, do you still recall the blue Hasan and Khalkhin-Gol?
Russian warship is winning. Proofs needed? Go find yourself!
I am not special - I am a limited edition.
Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
Another Rutger Hauer moment in M2TW modding, me thinks:
Campidoctor
Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
No, no, no, sir, I believe we'll fix it.
My sister, do you still recall the blue Hasan and Khalkhin-Gol?
Russian warship is winning. Proofs needed? Go find yourself!
I am not special - I am a limited edition.
Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
That was more aimed at the actual 'breaking merchants and ships with horde_target use', not the fixing of it.
Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
On the original subject matter, I do not dive into the coding of the .exe however I have done EXTENSIVE observational work on this game.
Adding "arguin" resource to a region that is often ignored by the AI will, invariably, make it more likely that the AI will take said region. It does not ensure the AI will take it, but it will be more likely to do so. To verify this do a simple experiment, remove the resource from the vanilla maps Arguin region. The AI will still take it, but not as early and not as consistently. Obviously this will only be concluded through repeated runs of the AI.
On my own map, I have a region the AI tends to over-look, consistently only taking it after 60 turns while sometimes not even taking it within 100 turns.
Add "arguin" and with ONLY that change the AI takes the region within 40 turns 2 out of 3 runs, with the third run still being within 60 turns.
While it possible this is coincidence, I find it hard to believe that, after 10 runs with very similar settings, two of which were identical in every other way, the game just randomly decided that those three runs were the only three the AI managed to take that region before 60 turns.
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Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
So did your tests indicate that the AI favors settlements with hidden resources or specifically the arguin resource?
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Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
I'm going to test that very thing tonight.
It occurred to me, since Giagantus said they code readers didn't see anything for "arguin" that perhaps it is just that hidden resource, or any resource at all really, increases the "value" of a region. I figure I'll make up a random hidden resource, run several runs without any, with "arguin" with my made up one and finally some runs with a hidden resource with known affect, I'm thinking "italy"
It will probably take 3 or 4 days to run them all and compile the results.
Last edited by CavalryCmdr; May 26, 2021 at 03:53 PM.
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Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
I also notice that settlements with the atlantic HR explorers_guild HR get offered the explorers guild as soon as a stone wall is built (Dublin, Antwerp, Bruges)
I agree with this. In my current campaign (Byz) the Mongols spawned in Tbilisi. Byz holds Antioch and nearby. After many many turns of bumbling about at full horde strength they moved via the mountainous region between Trebizond and Caesarea via Iconium to Nicaea. I assumed they were going for Constantinople, blocked the crossings with fleets, and started picking off their stacks. Despite being at war they haven't attacked Nicaea (undefended), nor attacked my 2 stacks to their 12 (now 8) in the field. It's now turn 140. Up until they passed Iconium Antioch was closer.
Constantinople does have horde_target (also atlantic) but this is the first time since 2006 that I have seen the Mongols go for it.
I can't quick test this right now as I'm in the middle of amends to make the Timurids playable as a settled faction and it turns out the saved game isn't presently compatible.
Is the HR swordsmiths_guild a dud too?
Both Toledo and Damascus have it. Both were known for quality steel weapon production. In M1TW the swordsmith type weapon upgrade depended on the region from the start of the game and Damascus was one such region.
Originally I hoped it was a "secret" way for Egypt or the Turks to get the guild. I took it by jihad in the opening 2 moves. I tried various things using process_cq. The only way was through convert to castle and building the plate armourer (82 points needed, not 100). The swordsmiths guild is offered on the next turn, but that works for any settlement.
It isn't practicible to do this in campaign time (and I tried) for various reasons, but mostly it takes 37 turns to build the castle upgrades and armourer upgrades so 12 points are lost from turn 25 - 37, so down to 70 points, and then even building the advanced plate doesn't get it over the line.
I anyway concluded that the swordsmiths guild wasn't going to suddenly be offered in Damascus (or at least the conditions weren't obvious) and that the Turks, being unable to train sword units named in ed_guilds.txt was unable to get the guild by their own efforts.
Anyone know any purpose to the swordsmiths_guild HR?
Last edited by FootSoldier; May 27, 2021 at 05:24 PM.
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Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
No doubt a properly calibrated descr_campaign_ai_db will have a noticeable effect on horde behaviour. I suspect something like pts_desire and invasion priority, along with invade_opportunistic, defend_minimal would be ideal for hordes.
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Re: The function of the hidden resource 'arguin'?
'Atlantic' isn't a condition in descr_guilds but the building of ports and wharves are. The HR is believed to be a hard coded condition for the explorer guild.
Swordsmith guild - there are a number of units that convey points to it but it's rather selective: sword and buckler, forlorn hope, byzantine infantry etc. No islam faction's units are listed afaik. The guild provides melee weapon bonus (locally) as well as heavy cavalry bonus (faction wide).
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