[Unofficial Hotfix] Functional infantry and cavalry javelineers; improved secondary weapon spearmen and faster cavalry

[QuintusSertorius]

Why haven't this been made a stickie?!

It's been superceded now, though I need the new cavalry formations to be able to finalise an official release which will have these and other changes for people to try.

[QuintusSertorius]

Another quick update, I'm about 40% of the way through updating the test-EDU with all the new stats from the current version in the trunk (including tighter formations for all cavalry), after which I'll apply my new cavalry speed formula (won't take long to do), then open a new thread for it to be tested by everyone. Hopefully in the next few days, assuming I get some clear periods to spend with it.

[Lord Baal]

Good news!

[MacDuro]

Just awesome !

[dowdpride]

SO I installed your fix and it now causes the game to crash every time I have a battle as the Bosphporan kingdom. I dont know if it is for sure this, but the game was working fine before I installed this so its the only thing I can think of.

[QuintusSertorius]

SO I installed your fix and it now causes the game to crash every time I have a battle as the Bosphporan kingdom. I dont know if it is for sure this, but the game was working fine before I installed this so its the only thing I can think of.

Since 2.01, I've not found it savegame compatible, but in that instance the save won't even load. The fact that it does load, but won't load battles is something else, I suspect. If you restore the original EDU, does it still crash on battles?

[dowdpride]

Im not trying to play a saved game. I start a new campaign, and the battles crash. The first time for no reason it just said I lost abruptly, and then the second time when I tried the battle again, it crashed.

[QuintusSertorius]

Im not trying to play a saved game. I start a new campaign, and the battles crash. The first time for no reason it just said I lost abruptly, and then the second time when I tried the battle again, it crashed.

Again, restore the EDU you were using before and see if it still crashes.

[dowdpride]

alrighty\

EDIT: Well this is just irritating. I did a fresh reinstall and remapped my camera direction keys to WASD and now when I attack Skythiapolis as the Bosphorans, the game just auto ends the battle as a close defeat with no casualties. Its annoying as hell.

[QuintusSertorius]

alrighty\

EDIT: Well this is just irritating. I did a fresh reinstall and remapped my camera direction keys to WASD and now when I attack Skythiapolis as the Bosphorans, the game just auto ends the battle as a close defeat with no casualties. Its annoying as hell.

That sounds like something more fundamental, assuming you're using the original EDU again.

[dowdpride]

Im using a clean steam and eb2 install, weird. The game worked as the Sabeans but not as the Bosphorans.

[QuintusSertorius]

I've almost finished the great EDU update (some final amendments and cavalry speed updates to do), it'll be ready to issue soon, once I've assured that it actually works without causing a CTD!

[QuintusSertorius]

I've finished the EDU update, but get an "unspecified error" when trying to run the game - which disappears when I revert to the previous EDU.

Log says:

11:28:29.103 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/EBII/data/export_descr_unit.txt, at line 519, column 1
Missing attributes field for unit type 'celtic infantry gaeroas'.
11:28:29.104 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

Lines 519 is:
officer Argoi_Early

Anyone have any ideas what's going on? I can send you my current EDU if it will help you diagnose.

[Lord Baal]

Are you completely sure that's the line? You aren't suppose to count commented lines, can't remember if EDU can have or does have commented lines.

[Voice of Treason]

Line 519 of previous 2.1 hotfix EDU says banner faction main_spear
Your saying it's now officer Argoi_Early

so have you accidently deleted/edited 3 lines?
The full entry text from 2.1 hotfix goes

; COMMENTS Uisusparos Kingetoi / Unit ID 14 / Start exp: 0 / Refr rate: 0,0576 / Pool cap: 5
type celtic infantry gaeroas
dictionary celtic_infantry_gaeroas
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type General
accent Gallic
banner faction main_spear
banner holy crusade
soldier uisusparos_kingetoi, 64, 0, 1.11, 0.35
officer Argoi_Early

making it appear as if 3 lines from above the "argoi" entry are missing.
Cant you copy 2.1 EDU into excel, then copy your new version along side and see where the lines desychronise?

[Lord Baal]

He probably included a new unit or something. Dunno. What is needed it to leave out the commented lines from the counting and then you'll have the faulty line. Most probably he's using the goto line from notepad which would count commented lines as well.

Don't know which would be the fastest way to delete the commented lines on a copy but probably excel would help a lot.If you are willing to pm me the file I would work it out in a few moments.

[QuintusSertorius]

For clarity, this is a heavily edited 2.01 EDU, not the original. I've been using Notepad++ and deleting a lot of commented out lines for primary javelins. There's a big commented section at the start of almost 100 lines, so if it's ignoring those it wouldn't even land on that unit at line 519.

Lord Baal - I'll PM you the current, thanks.

EDIT: Can't attach things to a PM, I'll put it here instead (please don't try to use this anyone, it's broken, but I suppose it's a sneak peek into what's coming soon): Attachment 319955

[Voice of Treason]

I can't test the EDU because there is no new descr_projectiles. txt.
(I'm guessing you've made new entries for the javelin50 ranges????)

however, going by the key
; officer Name of officer model. There may be up to 0-3 officer lines per unit
; ship Type of ship used if applicable
; engine Type of siege engine used by unit
; animal The type of (non ridden) animals used by the unit
; mount Type of animal or vehicle ridden on
;
; mount_effect Factors to add when in combat against enemy units that have the specified mounts

I noticed entries with the mount_effect above officer

; Agosepanoi Combaro (Disciples of Rage)

; COMMENTS Uisusparos Kingetoi / Unit ID 14 / Start exp: 0 / Refr rate: 0,0576 / Pool cap: 5
type celtic infantry gaeroas
dictionary celtic_infantry_gaeroas
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type General
accent Gallic
banner faction main_spear
banner holy crusade
soldier uisusparos_kingetoi, 80, 0, 0.9, 0.35
mount_effect horse +2
officer Argoi_Early

; COMMENTS Dugunthiz Early / Unit ID 88 / Start exp: 0 / Refr rate: 0,048 / Pool cap: 6
type germanic infantry dugunthiz
dictionary germanic_infantry_dugunthiz
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type General
accent Gallic
banner faction main_spear
banner holy crusade
soldier Dugunthiz_Early, 64, 0, 1, 0.35
mount_effect horse +2
officer officer_sweboz_standardbearer

; COMMENTS Dugunthiz Late / Unit ID 89 / Start exp: 0 / Refr rate: 0,048 / Pool cap: 6
type germanic infantry dugunthiz late
dictionary germanic_infantry_dugunthiz_late
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type General
accent Gallic
banner faction main_spear
banner holy crusade
soldier Dugunthiz_Late, 64, 0, 1, 0.35
mount_effect horse +2
officer officer_sweboz_standardbearer

Could it be these entries need moving below?

[QuintusSertorius]

Sorry, I didn't attach the new descr_projectiles.txt (but there is one).

mount_effect is supposed to be above attributes, not sure how it interacts with officer - should it be underneath? Am I breaking up the reading it does to build the unit (looking at soldier, then officer) by having it in between? If that's all that needs fixing to make it work, awesome, I'll get on it.

EDIT: It works! Voice of Treason, you're a lifesaver, that's four weeks of work recovered when I thought I'd have to start afresh. Thank you.

[MIKE GOLF]

Glad you got it working.