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    I 100% disagree with avatar conquest. It is a broken system that only encourages cheating and grinding.

    There are many cheats you can do in CheatEngine that removes the grinding advantage and also allows for things like multi clan specialism. S2tw is an very easy game to cheat and unlike the other TWs there's more of an incentive to cheat. Plus it's not really a competitive game due to avatar conquest and a broken classic mode.

    For TW it should remain traditional,with factions, unit rosters, etc.

    Things that would really make the MP more immersive and fun would be:

    40 unit battles (already in) but have it more optimized to work with maps.

    Larger maps

    The maps having objectives to capture on the field, thus giving incentive to advance and attack or bait opponents through other methods.

    No debug camera to limit a player's perspective in game forcing them to be more alert, check minimap, and use tactical overlay.The default camera shouldn't be high too as that defeats the purpose of having a more limited perspective. Plus it's immersive to hear all the little sounds which is one of the points of TW.

    List can go on but the above should suffice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroskiDerpman View Post
    I 100% disagree with avatar conquest. It is a broken system that only encourages cheating and grinding.

    There are many cheats you can do in CheatEngine that removes the grinding advantage and also allows for things like multi clan specialism. S2tw is an very easy game to cheat and unlike the other TWs there's more of an incentive to cheat. Plus it's not really a competitive game due to avatar conquest and a broken classic mode.

    For TW it should remain traditional,with factions, unit rosters, etc.

    Things that would really make the MP more immersive and fun would be:

    40 unit battles (already in) but have it more optimized to work with maps.

    Larger maps

    The maps having objectives to capture on the field, thus giving incentive to advance and attack or bait opponents through other methods.

    No debug camera to limit a player's perspective in game forcing them to be more alert, check minimap, and use tactical overlay.The default camera shouldn't be high too as that defeats the purpose of having a more limited perspective. Plus it's immersive to hear all the little sounds which is one of the points of TW.

    List can go on but the above should suffice.
    Cheating how about a couple of examples? I am not sure what you are talking about. The only thing I did not like was the ability to use Mounted Gunners without a retainer.
    3K needs to have an Avatar Campaign!!!

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    I encountered a few cheaters, and it seems strange to me that after playing over 2300 mp battles u hadn't.
    Once i faced someone whose bow monks were shooting half way across map with unlimited ammo, then there was a cheat that enabled ppl to multiply their veteran units and come on the field with them. There were some others connected with retainers and some that i thankfully forgot by now.
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    Default Re: Shogun 2 style multiplayer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fanest View Post
    I encountered a few cheaters, and it seems strange to me that after playing over 2300 mp battles u hadn't.
    Once i faced someone whose bow monks were shooting half way across map with unlimited ammo, then there was a cheat that enabled ppl to multiply their veteran units and come on the field with them. There were some others connected with retainers and some that i thankfully forgot by now.
    Well fact is you get that in any game and no I have never come across that. Unlimited ammo is possible if you captured the Bow Dojo.
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    Default Re: Shogun 2 style multiplayer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fanest View Post
    I encountered a few cheaters, and it seems strange to me that after playing over 2300 mp battles u hadn't.
    Once i faced someone whose bow monks were shooting half way across map with unlimited ammo, then there was a cheat that enabled ppl to multiply their veteran units and come on the field with them. There were some others connected with retainers and some that i thankfully forgot by now.
    Ive come across cheats like that in other total wars too who make their units near invincible, so it's nothing specific to shogun 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDionne View Post
    Cheating how about a couple of examples? I am not sure what you are talking about. The only thing I did not like was the ability to use Mounted Gunners without a retainer.
    The examples are given in my post.

    I can link to you a screenshot where someone cheated in 1000 veteran slots. Then I do know people who use multi clan specialism which can also be cheating through cheat engine. There is also a cheat to get a constant supply of clan tokens.

    @Lucius

    There is less incentive to cheat in other TWs unless you want to troll around with 1000 attack peasants in r2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroskiDerpman View Post
    The examples are given in my post.

    I can link to you a screenshot where someone cheated in 1000 veteran slots. Then I do know people who use multi clan specialism which can also be cheating through cheat engine. There is also a cheat to get a constant supply of clan tokens.

    @Lucius

    There is less incentive to cheat in other TWs unless you want to troll around with 1000 attack peasants in r2.

    Lost all my level 9 abilities and I have no Tokkens... GIVE ME !!!!!

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