[Official Submod] XIIICaesar's Legions of Rome - Divide et Impera (DeI) Ed. ***6-6-2016 UPDATE***

[John_the_Prince]

Hi, XIIICaesar! Thanks one more time for great work, but i find some bug here (but it may be only my problem ) - your legions have much less range of motion than other roman forces

Imperator Augustus campaign 1 turn - starting army range of motion


And 2 turn - with Legio I Germanica cohort

[XIIICaesar]

Hi, XIIICaesar! Thanks one more time for great work, but i find some bug here (but it may be only my problem ) - your legions have much less range of motion than other roman forces

Imperator Augustus campaign 1 turn - starting army range of motion


And 2 turn - with Legio I Germanica cohort

I'll look into. The original Caesar's Legions mod I updated was last for DEI 0.8 before I updated it. Probably just outdated movement range.

[XIIICaesar]

FYI this is wrong. Julius Caesar was in the Marian period. Gaius Marius was his uncle. The Marian Reforms happened in 107BCE. Julius Caesar was alive from 100-44BCE. The Second Triumvirate period (Imperator Augustus DLC) was from 43-33BCE. The imperial reforms (not a real thing) came about around the time of 1CE. The soldiers at Teutoberg Forest in 9CE had some of the "imperial" armour (lorica segmentata).

Hope that helps.

I've been designing and using mods to make the game as historically accurate to the timeframe, so I'm using 1TPY. I've currently got Lucius Aemelius Paulus and his son Publius Aemilianus Cornelius Scipio attacking the Macedonians in 150BCE. Pretty good right?

Yes. Thats true. The name of the unit in Franky's original mod's dB files are there are earlyromanI-XV, aaaromanI-XXII lateI-XXII. Legio V-XIIII were all used by Caesar through the Gallic Wars. So, I enabled those units in CiG only. Then You have the"aaaroman" units which number Legio I-XXII that are also Marian but only recruitable during the Marian reforms after GC/IA. Imperial "lateroman" units are recruitable after Imperial reforms in the GC/IA. The reason the "earlyrom" & "aaarom" units aren't both recruitable in GC/IA during Marian reforms is they have same Legio numbers. So, it made more sense balance-wise to just have the "earlyrom" units only recruitable in CiG. The early republican, late republican/marian, and imperial you see anyone referring to these units like thats how I refer to them as well. mIts just easeir when talking about or referencing them Lol

Sorry..but i don´t understand that xD. Why the alternative version don´t need updates? it´s like the other versions right? only without bulldog style

The alternate version will just be uploaded here as a minimod download in the OP. Reason being its only gonna be the vanilla unit cards, not the whole mod. Itll be maybe 10 MB in size , thats it. All it'll be is the units card UI and the variants dB file, you just load it before Caesars Legions and it'll overwrite the Bullgod cards in Caesar's Legions.

[Marcus Flavius]

Man, the eagle symbol it´s a good idea to know what is the first/aquilae cohort! =) and the variation of the clothe´s colour for each roman faction!

[XIIICaesar]

Man, the eagle symbol it´s a good idea to know what is the first/aquilae cohort! =) and the variation of the clothe´s colour for each roman faction!

Yeah, I redone the unit masks to only change the color of the units clothes/tunic. Also, 3 Versions of Legions in DEI CL: #1) Early Republican - mostly raised during Gallic Wars & before so thats why they're in CiG campaign #2) Late Republican/Marian Legionnaires from time of Marian reforms to right after the 2nd Triumvirate war. #3)Imperial Legionnaires after Imperial/Augustinian reforms. Imp Legio recruitable in Augustus campaign from the start instead of Marian because he wanted this: HatG starts in Polybian Era, CiG starts Marian Era, GC starts Camillian Era, IA starts Imp Era. That way each campaign starts in different era. I just loaded up with new scripts and it works. I've got to message Dresden and ask him to remove the unit card masks leftover from the old historical legions submod in the main DEI mod. Im fixing to see if I can change the starting reform for IA.... stay logged on....

[Marcus Flavius]

the alternative mini-sub mod will be avaliable on steam workshop?

[XIIICaesar]

the alternative mini-sub mod will be avaliable on steam workshop?

No. Once complete it'll be complete no need to keep updating it. I'll post a link in the steam workshop description to this thread here for people that want it. As for Vanilla units and their cards yes Ill post that on steam as I update it.

[Marcus Flavius]

No. Once complete it'll be complete no need to keep updating it. I'll post a link in the steam workshop description to this thread here for people that want it. As for Vanilla units and their cards yes Ill post that on steam as I update it.

Sorry..but i don´t understand that xD. Why the alternative version don´t need updates? it´s like the other versions right? only without bulldog style

[Marcus Flavius]

The alternate version will just be uploaded here as a minimod download in the OP. Reason being its only gonna be the vanilla unit cards, not the whole mod. Itll be maybe 10 MB in size , thats it. All it'll be is the units card UI and the variants dB file, you just load it before Caesars Legions and it'll overwrite the Bullgod cards in Caesar's Legions.

Oh thanks mate, so there´s so simple than it doný need to be updated like the whole mod right?

By the way, to start IA with marian reforms...i need youre CL for DEI and the IA start on marian reforms?? thouse two mods?

[XIIICaesar]

Oh thanks mate, so there´s so simple than it doný need to be updated like the whole mod right?

By the way, to start IA with marian reforms...i need youre CL for DEI and the IA start on marian reforms?? thouse two mods?

Yeah. If you're using the Unofficial MM, load the IA Marian Start first, then CL DEI, then DEI. It should load first, B4 CL DEI & DEI, even if you use the Official MM though. I'm updating the link now.

Sorry but..what´s the OP? and please, when you get it could you rename it for the users without unofficial mod manager? like me? =) jajaja Thanks for all, i´m waiting tonight to start a new campaign IA and see the marian reform there!

Dont feel bad. Took me forever to figure it out too. OP=Original Post. The post in beginning of thread where all mod info and DL links are. I just renamed the IA Marian Reform so that it should load before the

[Marcus Flavius]

Sorry but..what´s the OP? and please, when you get it could you rename it for the users without unofficial mod manager? like me? =) jajaja Thanks for all, i´m waiting tonight to start a new campaign IA and see the marian reform there!

[Marcus Flavius]

Dont feel bad. Took me forever to figure it out too. OP=Original Post. The post in beginning of thread where all mod info and DL links are. I just renamed the IA Marian Reform so that it should load before the

Again..thanks mate! =) tonight is the night! jajaja if i could help you with anything...i´m history student and reenactment form many groups of spain.

[Marcus Flavius]

Thanks dude...really apreciate all of this, you´re very compromise with this sub-mod, and seriouslly, i love that!

I think IA campaign should be starting in marian reform ( and be available to get imperial reform when the campaign are advanced ) like it was in the real events.
When are you gonna get the alternative of bulldog style cards? I want to start a campaign right now..but seriouslly, i hate that jajaja =)

[XIIICaesar]

Well, alright. I'll upload it to the Steam Workshop. It'll update a lot though and until I finish all of them it'll be a mix of Bullgod & VANILLA. I'll name the pack file so that it'll load before the Caesars Legions mod. I think I found the script your wanting to start in Marian reforms in Imperator Augustus campaign too. Litharion, the guy that does scripting for DEI, released a submod for that. I'm checking it out now. Hang on a sec Ill let you know what its like.... Him and Dresden had A LOT of people complaining the mod wasnt historical anymore and why Imperator Augustus campaign wasnt Marian instead all kinds of stuff. Heres a link to the thread --> I really dont see what the fuss was about, yeah you want historical accuracy but you gotta think about gameplay balance too; thats why Ive gotta rebalance the AOR system I wentoo historical and didnt balance enough<--

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...Marian-Reforms

Its not compatible with Caesars Legions gimme a minute and Ill see if I can make it compatible.

[Marcus Flavius]

Yeah, man i saw the sub-mod offer with Litharion, should i wait until you get it work with Caesar Legions? Thanks for make all that possible! =)

[Marcus Flavius]

I'm uploading an update to DEI CL now so that its compatible for people that use the Imperator Augustus Marian Reform start submod. The submod Litharion created also changes starting armies to have Marian Era units as well instead of Imperial Era. I'll work on editing that to be the Numbered Legions instead this weekend. It will require a new campaign start though. I'm uploading the modified submod that I've made compatible with Caesars Legions to my Google Drive now. Links will follow.

Thanks mate! =) finally you got it! i need two sub-mods? i mean, you´re CL for DEI( on steam ) and Marian Start on Imperator Augustus campaign?

[MagicCuboid]

So far it's just for personal use, but just so you guys know I've gone ahead and replaced about half of Franky's UI cards with Scaevola's . The remaining half will take a lot more work, of course.

XIIICaesar, your/Kaziel's redone vanilla unit cards are way more appealing than CA's. You guys should be proud.

Also, I have a question! I fired up a Caesar in Gaul campaign to check out the new early legions, and I noticed that they're recruitable from auxiliary barracks as well as main barracks. Is this intentional? I'm kind of wondering what the main barracks are good for, since auxiliary can recruit all numbered legions + auxiliaries, whereas the main just get the numbered legions and the vanilla Rome units.

[XIIICaesar]

So far it's just for personal use, but just so you guys know I've gone ahead and replaced about half of Franky's UI cards with Scaevola's . The remaining half will take a lot more work, of course.

XIIICaesar, your/Kaziel's redone vanilla unit cards are way more appealing than CA's. You guys should be proud.

Also, I have a question! I fired up a Caesar in Gaul campaign to check out the new early legions, and I noticed that they're recruitable from auxiliary barracks as well as main barracks. Is this intentional? I'm kind of wondering what the main barracks are good for, since auxiliary can recruit all numbered legions + auxiliaries, whereas the main just get the numbered legions and the vanilla Rome units.

Right, when you & Scaevola finish the Bullgod style cards your working on for Caesars Legions, with your permission I'd like to incorporate them into all 3 versions of Caesars Legions. BUT thats on you 2 and with your permission. If you want it to stay in DEI and however you 2 wanna do it, I'll follow what path y'all wanna take.

Thnx for the compliments on my Vanilla Numbered Legions. When I finish them I plan to do all the Vanilla cards.

CiG is intentional. I didn't mess with the auxiliaries or the vanilla units and buildings. All I did was I looked at how the Historical Legions & Dresden had set them up and emulated that with Caesars Legions. Only difference is all the Legions recruitable are, from what I could tell, ones Caesar historically used in the Gallic Wars. Also, I think its better balanced that way too for gameplay for such a small map. The way it works is Field of Mars, Auz Lv 1-2 Barr Lv 1-2 recruit Cohorts Aux Lv 3-4 Barr Lv 3-4 recruit Prima (First) Cohorts.

Yeah, man i saw the sub-mod offer with Litharion, should i wait until you get it work with Caesar Legions? Thanks for make all that possible! =)

I'm uploading an update to DEI CL now so that its compatible for people that use the Imperator Augustus Marian Reform start submod. The submod Litharion created also changes starting armies to have Marian Era units as well instead of Imperial Era. I'll work on editing that to be the Numbered Legions instead this weekend. It will require a new campaign start though. I'm uploading the modified submod that I've made compatible with Caesars Legions to my Google Drive now. Links will follow.

[Scaevola]

Thanks, Caesar! Much appreciated. As soon as BullGods unit cards are finished, we'll let you know. It will take awhile, by the way.

[XIIICaesar]

Thanks, Caesar! Much appreciated. As soon as BullGods unit cards are finished, we'll let you know. It will take awhile, by the way.

Thats cool just lemme know when! And thank you for undertaking the overhaul too.