[Official Submod] XIIICaesar's Legions of Rome - Divide et Impera (DeI) Ed. ***6-6-2016 UPDATE***

[XIIICaesar]

and by the way, if this sub-mod was made for DEI, and DEI version have vanilla style unit card, i don´t think bulldog style could be a good idea, breaks the stetic of the game himself...please, think about it! there´s actually a mod to put bulldog style to numbered legions, leave this clean, or made an apropiate style! =)

The Bullgod style mod made was made for Historical Legions submod --> the previous one that my updated Caesar's Legions has replaced. The Bullgod submod doesnt begin to cover the number of unit cards needed for Caesar's Legions. BUT I completley agree with the Kaziel/Vanilla style cards complete the historical immersion. I'm actually gonna start back up that project I had started way back again this weekend. I f you want the link just comment in here and I'll quote you and reply with the linbk to the thread.

Haha, wow 151 legions. That's really great (I have yet to fully explore this submod!)

Scaevola's the real guru here. I just did a couple touchups and did the coding. I had no idea our Bullgod project was only halfway to finished when compared to this updated version, however!

ROMAL: those unit cards are really good too, actually. It's a same CA didn't go the extra mile and colorize the cards in such tasteful ways.

Anyway I am but a humble modder with mainly the skills to edit rather than create, so I'll stay on the sidelines for now and see how this turns out. I can stand ready to at least import the existing Scaevola UI cards if they are desired, though

Alright. I'll let you know if I decide to go with them. If everybody votes Bullgod I'll probably just keep the ones that came with the mod though. That nobody --> me, you or scaevola have to do much. Howevere, if you're good at editing, how did you ge the shield textures to "popout" like that dude? They're just such an eye-catcher compared to the ones that come with the mod. I, myself, am gonna try to get Kaziel from Kaziel's Romans to lemme know his secret, Lol, on gertting the shield on those vanilla style unit cards so I can restart my, very ambitous, project of redesigning vanilla cards to be more appealing.

[Marcus Flavius]

The Bullgod style mod made was made for Historical Legions submod --> the previous one that my updated Caesar's Legions has replaced. The Bullgod submod doesnt begin to cover the number of unit cards needed for Caesar's Legions. BUT I completley agree with the Kaziel/Vanilla style cards complete the historical immersion. I'm actually gonna start back up that project I had started way back again this weekend. I f you want the link just comment in here and I'll quote you and reply with the linbk to the thread.

Yes..if finally bulldog style wins in that pool..I want Kaziel/Vanilla style cards..it´s taht possible? are you gonna made two links? one with bulldog and one with Kaziel/Vanilla?
and by the way..why people love bulldog style? jajajaja =) Thanks Caesar, for all your work, i didn´t test it yet...to much work

[XIIICaesar]

Yes..if finally bulldog style wins in that pool..I want Kaziel/Vanilla style cards..it´s taht possible? are you gonna made two links? one with bulldog and one with Kaziel/Vanilla?
and by the way..why people love bulldog style? jajajaja =) Thanks Caesar, for all your work, i didn´t test it yet...to much work

Yes whichever wins will be put in the mod. The one that loses will also be offered as a separate link.

Well, while I was trying to get some sleep yesterday, I thought this over. 151 sounds pretty much. That's for sure. But think about this: There are just 106 left. Iam just guessing, but suspect those 100 unit cards left, to share many shield paintings, armor types and assets with the ones I already made. I can't believe they are all that different. When Dresden scaled the original mod down, he probably left many legions out which look way to similar to others. That would make my work a lot easier.

Could anyone out there give a little input regarding my assumptions? Has anyone decent experience with this mod and most of the legions on the battlefield?

I would look at the original bullgod style cards and use those as a reference. They're Pretty accurate far as I know with the legions battle models. Plus there isn't as many legions as you think dude. If you're basing the number units off the number of cards you know half of them are just first cohorts with same look as other cohorts

[Marcus Flavius]

Yes whichever wins will be put in the mod. The one that loses will also be offered as a separate link.

apreciate that mate! =)

[MagicCuboid]

Haha, wow 151 legions. That's really great (I have yet to fully explore this submod!)

Scaevola's the real guru here. I just did a couple touchups and did the coding. I had no idea our Bullgod project was only halfway to finished when compared to this updated version, however!

ROMAL: those unit cards are really good too, actually. It's a same CA didn't go the extra mile and colorize the cards in such tasteful ways.

Anyway I am but a humble modder with mainly the skills to edit rather than create, so I'll stay on the sidelines for now and see how this turns out. I can stand ready to at least import the existing Scaevola UI cards if they are desired, though

[Scaevola]

Well, while I was trying to get some sleep yesterday, I thought this over. 151 sounds pretty much. That's for sure. But think about this: There are just 106 left. Iam just guessing, but suspect those 100 unit cards left, to share many shield paintings, armor types and assets with the ones I already made. I can't believe they are all that different. When Dresden scaled the original mod down, he probably left many legions out which look way to similar to others. That would make my work a lot easier.

Could anyone out there give a little input regarding my assumptions? Has anyone decent experience with this mod and most of the legions on the battlefield?

[Scaevola]

Sounds reasonable. If there are something about 75 legions (counting early and late versions together here), I suspect there is 30 to 40 cards to do. I still hold to my assumptions, which means it's a bearable workload. I am still interested in some expert knowledge regarding those legions on the actual battlefield.

[Marcus Flavius]

Caesar! now i see the new unit cards made by Kaziel, it would be awesome to made something simillar for thouse legions! it will be nice to see all unit cards of the game like this way...much better than bulldog ( no offense to taht master of modding )

[XIIICaesar]

Caesar! now i see the new unit cards made by Kaziel, it would be awesome to made something simillar for thouse legions! it will be nice to see all unit cards of the game like this way...much better than bulldog ( no offense to taht master of modding )

Oh yeah. They are awesome dude. Very good vanilla style cards

Sounds reasonable. If there are something about 75 legions (counting early and late versions together here), I suspect there is 30 to 40 cards to do. I still hold to my assumptions, which means it's a bearable workload. I am still interested in some expert knowledge regarding those legions on the actual battlefield.

I will try to help you my best when I can test it out this weekend dude.

[MagicCuboid]

Scaevola, I will team up with you to get this done . I'll see if I can make a submod like Don Diego did to make these Historical Legions available in custom battle. After that I'll go down the line like last time and make a list.

When I was doublechecking the cards last time, I had helmet, arms, shield, legs, and armor categories. Like LEGO blocks, I assigned Montefortino or Gallic; Long Sleeves, Short Sleeves; Long Pants, Short Pants, Tunic, etc.

These categories also receive colors. Once a spreadsheet is made, I suspect as you do that it would be a matter of recoloring and copy/pasting the different parts. Your priority could be the new art, and I could prioritize the cut and paste jobs

(while I'm at it, I might move the "eagle" and "prima" logos to the topleft, since they often get cut off in-game)

[XIIICaesar]

Scaevola, I will team up with you to get this done . I'll see if I can make a submod like Don Diego did to make these Historical Legions available in custom battle. After that I'll go down the line like last time and make a list.

When I was doublechecking the cards last time, I had helmet, arms, shield, legs, and armor categories. Like LEGO blocks, I assigned Montefortino or Gallic; Long Sleeves, Short Sleeves; Long Pants, Short Pants, Tunic, etc.

These categories also receive colors. Once a spreadsheet is made, I suspect as you do that it would be a matter of recoloring and copy/pasting the different parts. Your priority could be the new art, and I could prioritize the cut and paste jobs

(while I'm at it, I might move the "eagle" and "prima" logos to the topleft, since they often get cut off in-game)

What submod are you talking abut --> do you have a link? Anyhow, if you can get the units working in custom battle I would, with your permission and credit, like to incorporate it into all 3 versions of this mod. I've got people in the Vanilla & Radious forums asking for custom battles as well. And lemme know if I can help you 2 with the Bullgod cards and if I can I'll do it.

[Scaevola]

Sounds like you want to do the boring part, MagicCuboid. That would help me a lot, of course but I am not sure if I want you to do all of that. As far as I understand, there's really not much of interest in copying stuff for me. Sounds like you eat bread and give me the cookies. If you feel compelled to do this then have a word about design choices is the very least I can do.

[XIIICaesar]

Sounds like you want to do the boring part, MagicCuboid. That would help me a lot, of course but I am not sure if I want you to do all of that. As far as I understand, there's really not much of interest in copying stuff for me. Sounds like you eat bread and give me the cookies. If you feel compelled to do this then have a word about design choices is the very least I can do.

I've added the original Bullgod style cards the original mod had back in until you complete your project. As soon as you do I'll swap them out.

[XIIICaesar]

Thise is my attempt at custom Vanilla unit cards in color. Now, most of those there are part of Kaziel's mods and his work. The 2 I did have the black arrows pointing to them. Its the Legio I while I was playing as Antony's Rome. What do you people think? The one with the red/black/white mosaic background on the left or the one without on the right?

[ROMAL]

With a pure white background without mosaic and dirt looks great.
I too hate the Bullgod style children's icons. In this vanilla colored style more a strict beauty.

[Daizus]

Strict beauty maybe a long drink, dude!

[XIIICaesar]

With a pure white background without mosaic and dirt looks great.
I too hate the Bullgod style children's icons. In this vanilla colored style more a strict beauty.

I thought the mosaic looked pretty good Lol. A nice touch. BUT if yall dont like it okay. What about the Eagle Standard I put in the first cohort card? Thats as big as could do it without the border cutting it off. Also the yellow you see for clothes will change based on Roman faction. Thats my mask. I colored the armour, the sword, even the skin on each card is colored instead of black. Which Imma go back and use a slightly brighter color so its more noticeable.

Strict beauty maybe a long drink, dude!

Thank you. I plan on doing all the Legions with their own shield textures and uploading it as an alternative mini-submod in the OP when done for people that don't like the Bullgod. I will after that, do all the unit cards, vanilla & otherwise, as well too.

[Marcus Flavius]

Same to me! good job, i prefer without mosaic ( a little bit dirty =) ) but you don´t need to coloured the helmet, with the shield it could be enough, like Kaziel´s work. Thanks, we are the only fans of this most realistic unit card, not bulldog child style. But i really like the simple style that you put them now, vanilla numered unit cards! =)

By the way, i test today the sub-mod, i see the legions in custom battle too ( thanks! ) and there are tree legionary states, pre-marian ( only the legions named by Julius Caesar ) marian ( the triumvirate time ) and imperial, right??

But when i test today Augustus campaign, all legions are imperial, no marian legionaries, like it was in the real events, could you change that? Dresden didn´t do that for logistic reasons inside the mod, do you think it´s possible to get this reform in this sub-mod?

Thanks for all..i really miss the legions until you update the original mod made by Yolo, i only could imagine how far this will go with your manage, you have plans for the future??

Apreciate all your hard work on that! Caesar Imperator now !!! =)

[XIIICaesar]

Same to me! good job, i prefer without mosaic ( a little bit dirty =) ) but you don´t need to coloured the helmet, with the shield it could be enough, like Kaziel´s work. Thanks, we are the only fans of this most realistic unit card, not bulldog child style. But i really like the simple style that you put them now, vanilla numered unit cards! =)

By the way, i test today the sub-mod, i see the legions in custom battle too ( thanks! ) and there are tree legionary states, pre-marian ( only the legions named by Julius Caesar ) marian ( the triumvirate time ) and imperial, right??

But when i test today Augustus campaign, all legions are imperial, no marian legionaries, like it was in the real events, could you change that? Dresden didn´t do that for logistic reasons inside the mod, do you think it´s possible to get this reform in this sub-mod?

Thanks for all..i really miss the legions until you update the original mod made by Yolo, i only could imagine how far this will go with your manage, you have plans for the future??

Apreciate all your hard work on that! Caesar Imperator now !!! =)

I do have plans for it. I'm gonna redo all the vanilla cards for each individual legion with a unique shield and full color like the preview as a mini-submod alternative to Bullgod found in main mod. Then, I'm gonna expand upon that to redo all vanilla cards and otherwise vanilla version cards for dei unit and what-nots in color. I am working on updating the DEI CL now. RADIOUS/VANILLA are basically the same & more or less complete except for tweaking and balancing the AOR system. DEI requires more work due to scripts. I'm working on that right now.

[♠ Thomas Cochrane ♠]

By the way, i test today the sub-mod, i see the legions in custom battle too ( thanks! ) and there are tree legionary states, pre-marian ( only the legions named by Julius Caesar ) marian ( the triumvirate time ) and imperial, right??

FYI this is wrong. Julius Caesar was in the Marian period. Gaius Marius was his uncle. The Marian Reforms happened in 107BCE. Julius Caesar was alive from 100-44BCE. The Second Triumvirate period (Imperator Augustus DLC) was from 43-33BCE. The imperial reforms (not a real thing) came about around the time of 1CE. The soldiers at Teutoberg Forest in 9CE had some of the "imperial" armour (lorica segmentata).

Hope that helps.

I've been designing and using mods to make the game as historically accurate to the timeframe, so I'm using 1TPY. I've currently got Lucius Aemelius Paulus and his son Publius Aemilianus Cornelius Scipio attacking the Macedonians in 150BCE. Pretty good right?