How do I disable the console? I want to disable cheats

[UserNameTaken]

No, I don't want someone standing behind me telling me "BAD"

I don't want to destroy my keyboard.

I don't want to do anything except disable the console

I have a habit of using toggle_fow or adding money...

I always had a lot more fun in later Total Wars, because there is no console. So it was more fun and challenging.

I can easily not use cheats...but they are there and so easy to use...and whenever I need a slight boost (like 5000 money) I add it. Or if I want to see the whole map, I do that (which ruins it for me). Or sometimes I'm in a bad mood in real life and auto win battles...which ruins it for me.

Great, I have self control problems with cheats. And really, only Total War games I have this problem I run into. Skyrim I do so, but its just fun stuff like summoning things. But like Rome 2 Total War (I like EB2 a lot more, but console ruins it) I can't cheat at all...no console...no way of cheating...makes it more fun.

I used the unpacker, and changed the show_console key. It had no effect. I removed the console key and it had no effect

The file was in C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\common\Medieval II Total War\data\text under shortcuts.

But that file has no effect in game what so ever.

I went into

C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\common\Medieval II Total War\mods\EBII\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign

Added

disable_shortcuts object_manager show_console true


to campaign_script

It worked!

Wait...as soon as I enter a battle it resets and the console works again after that. I can't remove the console.

But that is only thing that worked...until a stupid battle.

I then went and added that line all over the place in script file...still didn't work

Then I went to the EB2.cfg file and did disable_console = 1

It didn't work. So I did it all over the place...still didn't work.

Tried activating hot seat...which works in M2TW, but EB2 it does not activate properly. Probably not compatible.

The only thing that worked was that script line, but after going into a battle it ruins it.

Is there anything I can do to disable the console? Or is M2TW just not the right total war for me? I love EB2 way more than R2TW, but at least in R2 there is no console.

[UserNameTaken]

I already tried 29 hours of google searching (plus another 19 hours trying to disable console), which is how I found most of the above. But no one has any answer to disable console...barely anyone asks. Just how to cheat. And those who ask usually get sarcastic smartass replies.

Too bad they didn't let you disable them, cause later total wars they don't let you at all (a HUGE improvement for me).

[Anubis88]

Dude, just use some self control. I mean it's not that hard, you are not talking about not eating for 7 days living next door to a pizza place. Just don't use it.

[dogukan]

obviously he has addiction issues....if he could just "not use it" he wouldnt make this whole rant.
On topic, I dont really know...I had a phase like this a few years back on this game. Then I just forgot cheats...now I don't use them at all unless I am testing.

So much first world problems

[UserNameTaken]

Well, disable_shortcuts object_manager show_console true...worked

But for some reason it reset after going into a battle. So maybe I need to put it in another file as well or a different part of campaign_script or maybe it just doesn't work properly.

I can do 100 turns with that and reloading game+save and it never works (the console). But it breaks as soon as I go into a battle.

[jpempire]

Just have some self control or ruin your experience in a mod and you will forget about the cheats

[WhiffOfGrapeshot]

If disable_shortcuts object_manager show_console true worked, then try adding a trigger that'll fire off every turn that runs that again. Check the Text Editing & Scripting section in the Mod Workshop on here to see how to come up with that script. It should be fairly simple. Better yet, I'm pretty sure you can have scripts fire off after battles, too, so having it check if you're the local player, after battle, trigger disable_shortcuts object_manager show_console true.

EDIT: Just add the following somewhere in the campaign_script:

monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
disable_shortcuts object_manager show_console true
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

It's possible to add a redundant one that'll trigger post battle, if you really need it, so you can't cheat that way by making a trigger that has
WhenToTest PostBattle

I'm pretty sure that'd look like

Trigger anti_cheat_trigger
    WhenToTest PostBattle
      and not IsFactionAIControlled

    disable_shortcuts object_manager show_console true

[UserNameTaken]

Thanks. I found this before you edited

monitor_event FactionTurnStart TrueCondition

disable_shortcuts object_manager show_console true

end_monitor

wait_monitors

Which worked just as good. I end turn after battle, and console doesn't come up. Don't need one post battle, I have enough self control to end afterwards. Never even re-load saves if a battle goes bad (I know some do that, but I find losing battles to be just as fun as winning)...with exception if the game crashes or some game bug with a stuck unit I can't reach (but that is really rare).

Thanks for the help

[VektorT]

Maaaaan! I identify myself so much with you! Hahaha!

I fortunaly get over my cheat abuse... part of it by just forgetting the cheat codes. But my main problem now is the save-before-try > crap-hits-the-fan > reload-and-try-again. Maybe someday someone will create some kind of Ironman mode... hahaha!
But, honestly, I played Total War for so much time that I hardly have to reload because of a serious mistake... the problem is the tiny small ones... like:
"Oh, I lost the battle? That's ok, that's how the game is... MY SPY FAILED AND GOT KILLED IN A 80% MISSION!? NO ING WAY!!!"

[Floren d'Asteneuz]

Yeah, rage-reload occures only with spies and assassin's missions with me too :p

I used to use the cheat codes a lot, often on EB1 when the last was released and was not savegame compatible. I just used add money and autowin to reform my last empire.
Except it was spoiled since the ennemy was not as evolved as me. After that, I used it again, but not as often, with the twisted justification that I already won the game a lot, lot, lot of times. But cheating still ruins the game so I stopped, except in rare situations where game crashes or bugs. Or for RP or historical purpose. (rarely in my favor)

Have fun with your clean and propper game, with no tentation at all, and welcome back to the true game

[Ferdiad]

You know you can cheat in the warscape games by manipluating the values with something like artmoney or one of the cheat engines.

[texoman81]

You know you can cheat in the warscape games by manipluating the values with something like artmoney or one of the cheat engines.

he's trying to break his addiction to cheating, you shouldn't give him more ways to cheat

[VektorT]

You know you can cheat in the warscape games by manipluating the values with something like artmoney or one of the cheat engines.

That was evil, man! What is your next step, you maniac? Teach him how to tweak unit stats so he can make his soldiers better like he think they should!?
I... I mean! That's a terrible idea!, haha! Who ever did it any way!? Me!? No, absolutely not! No chance! I'm honest and I dont mess with experiented modders balance! No freaking way!!

OKAY, I ADMIT!!! But what could I do!? Rhûn soldiers looks absolutely badass in TATW and I could accept that they was one of the weaker human infantries in the game!!! That was unbalanced!! I swear! I... I wont cry again about it... I... I wont! Rhûn... Rhûn must rule... Rhûn stronk! Best looking than elves... BEST LOOKING THAN ELVES!!!

[Strengelicher]

No, I don't want someone standing behind me telling me "BAD"

I don't want to destroy my keyboard.

You don't have to actually destroy your keyboard. Just rip out the key which opens the console. I remember there was a discussion with the same topic here on the forums quite a while ago, and it was quite funny. Petrobras was involved in it as well, IIRC.

EDIT: I have another idea! Get sexy girls to watch you play. In that scenario, pride will keep you from cheating! Oh, don't I just love myself for the brilliance of my ideas?

EDIT No. 2: Here is another one - get yourself one of those collars for unruly dogs. The type of collar that can give off electric shocks. It is operated by remote control. When playing MII, wear the collar... and if you catch yourself cheating, shock yourself using the remote control! After a while, you will develop a natural aversion against cheating! Ha!

[riskymonk]

No need to feel embarrassed about that lol. I used to do it all the time when I first started playing medieval 2. Had to stop once I got more experienced and felt empty from winning using cheats. My excuse was "if AI is allowed bonuses, I'm allowed them too"

[VektorT]

You don't have to actually destroy your keyboard. Just rip out the key which opens the console. I remember there was a discussion with the same topic here on the forums quite a while ago, and it was quite funny. Petrobras was involved in it as well, IIRC.

EDIT: I have another idea! Get sexy girls to watch you play. In that scenario, pride will keep you from cheating! Oh, don't I just love myself for the brilliance of my ideas?

EDIT No. 2: Here is another one - get yourself one of those collars for unruly dogs. The type of collar that can give off electric shocks. It is operated by remote control. When playing MII, wear the collar... and if you catch yourself cheating, shock yourself using the remote control! After a while, you will develop a natural aversion against cheating! Ha!

Yup, I was there! Hahaha!

Nice suggestions, by the way. Not sure about hot chicks, though. If I invite some hot girls to come to my room dunno if I will want to play PC in front of them... probably SNes!! It still 'causes quite a impression and nostalgia and everybody loves good old Bomberman!