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    All very very sad, it does not show TWC in a very good light, personally I don't really care what people are searching for, why on earth is it there, get rid of it, so that members that have given much, don't get treated in this very childish manner





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    Yes it undermines the perception of the people on this site.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrucci View Post
    I would like to be part of decision making system of TWC and do my best to contribute it, unfortunately A) TWC community didn't recognize me as rightful citizen thus alienated me from site management politic B) I was not aware of this thread existence till it pop out on the right side of my screen this morning.
    I do not put discussions like this in the Curia. I use the Q & S which is open to everyone.



    This brings me to the next issue, visibility of crucial discussions on site. As some of us said earlier, most of our members are visiting site sections that match their interest and don't care much about other parts of forum.
    I will take my example, subforums I visit and like the most are ULO, Europa Universalis ,DD and various mods . Rest is generally not my concern and I am perfectly content with it.
    However when it comes to debating about crucial things to TWC future, like this one, I would like to take part. To listen others opinions and give mine, and together with other members help in making best possible decision. I assume other members would like that too.
    Problem is ,again from my experience, visibility of crucial discussions. I agree something of similar importance like this deserves special place. It should literary stab your eyes when you enter TWC. My suggestion is either enlarging announcement section or putting it between banners and
    The announcements generally get ignored by large parts of the TWC population. Earlier I mentioned the last announcement I posted about shutting the site down for a few hours to do some work at the datacenter, and that one only had like 500 views and there were hardly any replies at all even though it was posted in big red letters.




    Quote Originally Posted by Veteraan View Post
    It does on Windows tablets. At least the one I'm using which is running on a full Windows 8 OS. 1366x768
    Of course that makes it a sort of a PC in a tablet form and that is precisely why I bought it in the first place.
    I think I would commit suicide before using that! On a more serious note that should still show up as a mobile device. Its not just OS that determines that.


    Perhaps I'm seeing things, but it looks to me like the "My profile" page has changed a bit (apart form the sidebar of course).
    I use the TWCenter style. I have some trouble reading the text in the tabs like "My activity", "Visitors Messages" etc. Was the lettering always in white? I am old, but I don't recall having to put my face closer to the monitor to read it.
    Also, wasn't the members rep displayed above the Avatar?
    Probably some of the text changes I made to the sidebar translated to that part of the site, which is also technically a sidebar. The CSS there also pulls from a section called postbit, so I will have to look at that as well.



    Quote Originally Posted by Melooo182 View Post
    Great! now that the main issue was solved (losing posts area) now we can get into details of what is shown in the bar , i dunno if it could incorporate like last threads you've posted in or even your last 5 subscribed threads?

    Thanks for listening and considering our opinions GrnEyedDvl
    Well it isn't "solved" by any means, but we are working on it. I don't really want to get into pulling stuff from individual users at this point with it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Makrell View Post
    you should add a censor on the search in the sidebar Certain searches are worse than others.

    toher than that i think that near everyone searchesfor the great war is cool. can there be added a comma between each searchword? is hard to discern if the final three words are 1 or 3 words.
    I cant change that widget, we do not own it. I can disable/enable features on it and that is about it. And now I have to go see what I can track on it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdiad View Post
    I kind of miss the sidebar in threads tbh.
    I like it there too.


    Quote Originally Posted by Setekh View Post
    The only thing that the new sidebar provided me as an information was to see that "dicks" is one of the popular searches.
    I doubt it was the only thing it provided you. It also led you to this thread which is in a new forum.




    Quote Originally Posted by Ishan View Post
    That search result leads to this:
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?262637
    Old TD days, nostalgia.
    Thread deleted. It should have been deleted years ago.



    Quote Originally Posted by Taximinus Mhrax View Post
    All these various sidebars and ads are taking a toll on my laptop (persistent lag, increased loading time, fan noise), similar to what happened last year before switching to the current vBulletin version.
    Its no more ads than we had before, and since they are pulling from a different pool they should load faster (asynchronously),


    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfburk View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall of France View Post
    I would suggest getting rid of the ads as they serve no real use.
    No ads = no site. Its pretty simple.



    Quote Originally Posted by I Am Herenow View Post
    I'd like to have the option (from user settings or what have you) of removing it completely.
    I am starting to sound like a broken record here. Read the thread.


    Quote Originally Posted by Taximinus Mhrax View Post
    The technical staff should investigate who is behind that, if possible.
    If I can find some time I may did into analytics and see if I can figure it out. If I can then some people will get some presents from me. I probably wont be nice about it either.


    Quote Originally Posted by General George S. Patton View Post
    Please let us get rid of it (or minimize like we use to be able to do)
    Read the entire thread. I am not going to bother to respond to people anymore who are not informing themselves when the information is right there in front of them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Astaroth View Post
    Oh, seems that I've pissed off a tough kiddo internet warrior, how scary! The no-lifers are busy tonight.
    Yeah tough kids hiding behind what they assume is an anonymous way to insult people. If they had a pair of balls they would say it to your face. Or to mine, considering you haven't been an admin for quite some time now.


    Quote Originally Posted by G-Megas-Doux View Post
    Yes it undermines the perception of the people on this site.
    Its the same reason we had to get rid of tags on most of the forum. People just cannot resist. Its actually quite sad because there are lots of features we could have. The "popular searches" are now disabled until I can figure out something to do there, or at least a decent way to track them that doesn't require server shell access and trapping words in the access log.

    I may just start handing out permabans for stuff like that because they really do ruin stuff for everyone. Dealing with it gets old, and they never change anyways. Might as well just take out the trash. In fact you can now consider that site policy if you want. Pass the word, if I have to do a lot of extra work because of abuse, expect the punishment to be more severe. Since typing into that thing passes it through TWC to Google I can probably work up something to figure out who typed what if its not already trapped in the access logs now.

    In fact maybe I should just setup a honey trap for these idiots, and enable tags site wide again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrnEyedDvl View Post
    I think I would commit suicide before using that! On a more serious note that should still show up as a mobile device. Its not just OS that determines that.
    Depends. My Surface Pro 3 has a 2.9GHz Gen IV I-5, a 256 GB Solid State Hard drive, 8 Gigs of RAM, and is only 1/4 the size and weight of my laptop, probably smaller. The only real downsides are that the GPU isn't a dedicated unit but is a 512MB Integrated card, the fan is rather small, and it uses Windows 8, which sucks. It's actually better than my actual laptop, except for the GFX card.

    However, mine was the 2nd most expensive one, the normal consumer version is terrible compared to it, but it absolutely trumps pretty much every other tablet out there. I think only one of the Samsung Tablets might be better than my Surface.

    A Windows Surface doesn't show up as a mobile device because it's technically a laptop. The only thing that makes it a mobile device is that you can carry it, but you can also carry a 200 pound rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrnEyedDvl View Post
    Its no more ads than we had before, and since they are pulling from a different pool they should load faster (asynchronously)
    I was refering to those ads spaces. Before this upgrade, there were only two ads spaces right below the TWC logo, while now there are also two more around the sidebars area.

    I can't believe what I'm about to say, but my laptop can't handle this forum. So I guess this is it.

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    Came here to mention what you already discuss, it seems. I hope it will stop soon.


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    Is it possible to make cursewords appear as smiley faces as it appears on a forum post?
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    It would still be open to abuse from what I understand of it.

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    Can the search engine handle more complicated search tasks? Like, say I want to search my posts or those or of another user?

    *edit*

    Oh and lol, I think the threads do look better if they have the sidebar in them, simply because a post can stretch across the page now. Perhaps just a border and background without content going all the way down will look better than just an empty space though.
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    Stav, I'm pretty sure there's an "advanced search" button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magister Militum Flavius Aetius View Post
    Depends. My Surface Pro 3 has a 2.9GHz Gen IV I-5, a 256 GB Solid State Hard drive, 8 Gigs of RAM, and is only 1/4 the size and weight of my laptop, probably smaller. The only real downsides are that the GPU isn't a dedicated unit but is a 512MB Integrated card, the fan is rather small, and it uses Windows 8, which sucks. It's actually better than my actual laptop, except for the GFX card.

    However, mine was the 2nd most expensive one, the normal consumer version is terrible compared to it, but it absolutely trumps pretty much every other tablet out there. I think only one of the Samsung Tablets might be better than my Surface.

    A Windows Surface doesn't show up as a mobile device because it's technically a laptop. The only thing that makes it a mobile device is that you can carry it, but you can also carry a 200 pound rock.
    You just ran into my bias against Windows 8 from the perspective of an IT guy that has to support that piece of crap OS. If someone ever introduced me to the guys who thought some of that up, it might get ugly.


    The only thing that makes it a mobile device is that you can carry it, but you can also carry a 200 pound rock.
    Well you can carry it a little ways, and then you will drop it. Hopefully on your Windows 8 tablet.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stavroforos View Post
    Can the search engine handle more complicated search tasks? Like, say I want to search my posts or those or of another user?
    That isn't part of the forum. Its basically just a direct portal to Google with an interface on the site. It can only see what Google sees.


    Oh and lol, I think the threads do look better if they have the sidebar in them, simply because a post can stretch across the page now. Perhaps just a border and background without content going all the way down will look better than just an empty space though.
    I like it better on all pages as well.



    Quote Originally Posted by Magister Militum Flavius Aetius View Post
    Stav, I'm pretty sure there's an "advanced search" button.
    There was, but I had to disable it because its also part of the most popular terms feature which was being severely abused.

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    I don't see it anywhere.

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    Stav I think you can do that via user profiles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrnEyedDvl View Post
    That isn't part of the forum. Its basically just a direct portal to Google with an interface on the site. It can only see what Google sees.
    Ah okay.
    Quote Originally Posted by danny X View Post
    Stav I think you can do that via user profiles.
    Well I can see activity there, but I can't exactly search my posting history is r that of other users. Anyway since the TWC search and the sidebar search are apparently different things, we can have this conversation when discussing TWC search comes up at some point.

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    Can't agree with you more GED; my view is the device itself is good (as in the hardware), sed Windows 8 is just terrible.

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    I reverted some of the padding and margins back since the bar isn't on showthread anymore. I will go poke through some of the other mentioned themes for a while now.

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    Stav click on my name in the left sidebar of this post. It says "view forum posts" as an option. Instant post history.

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    How can I turn off that annoying thing ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Methoz View Post
    How can I turn off that annoying thing ??
    You can't.

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