Problems with 2.01

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  1. Anubis88's Avatar

    Anubis88 said:

    Default Problems with 2.01

    First of all, i have to say i very rarely experienced a CTD in the first version, but now even before starting a campaing i get them.

    So the first thing happens when i launch the mod, i get a message that steam client bootstrapper stopped working. I have no idea what that is, but the game runs.

    In game i saw this problem when starting a ptoly campaing;




    And when i wanted to quit i got a ctd.

    The only think that's possible that went wrong with the install is that i had the eb.ctg file or what was it (where i was advised to make it read only) and i had to unmake it read only before i reeinstaled EB 2,01

    Thanks for the help
     
  2. Kull's Avatar

    Kull said:

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    First of all, did you uninstall EB 2.0? That is required. That should have wiped out all the files and avoided conflicts. Might need to uninstall both and start over.

    As for the button problem, yes, I saw that too in a v2.01 game. Not sure what's causing it, or even if it's something new in v2.01 I had it with Pontos on turn 35, saved, tried to close the game, got the CTD, reloaded and played on to turn 70 without any further problems.

    If other see this too, please report the details.
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  3. alex86 said:

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    I get the steam boostrapper thing, but it doesn't stop the game from running.

    The button issue for me has been intermittent; not encountered yet in 2.01 but it was rare to begin with. Every time it came up, it meant a CTD was coming.

    But yeah, it's best to unset read only for the cfg file, and replace it with the new one. The uninstall does not clear the cfg file (or maybe it only doesn't if it's read only).
     
  4. Anubis88's Avatar

    Anubis88 said:

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    Hi,

    yeah i did uninstal, maybe the ctg file remained because it was marked read only? Not sure. Anyways i started a Pahlava campaing later, and so far so good, so it seems it's not permanent. If it's fixed by reloading it's great
     
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    alin said:

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    Kull, that seems to be the same behavior we had with the hastati unid info card.
    I have the feeling it's still there for building icons.

    Anubis88 can you try and remember what buildings you browsed?
    What should happen is after you browse a building you should see some ui artifacts, right after closing it, like the weird buttons or scrollbar.
     
  6. Kull's Avatar

    Kull said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by alin View Post
    Kull, that seems to be the same behavior we had with the hastati unid info card.
    I have the feeling it's still there for building icons.

    Anubis88 can you try and remember what buildings you browsed?
    What should happen is after you browse a building you should see some ui artifacts, right after closing it, like the weird buttons or scrollbar.
    Agreed - that was what we thought with my Pontos game, but nothing showed up as being obviously a problem. It seems especially odd with Ptolemaioi, because all those icons were re-done by Tsar, and I haven't seen any issues with his work.

    But yes, this is the textbook symptom for a bad UI picture.

    All the more reason for EVERYBODY to report instances of this bug!
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  7. mr mojo risin said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kull View Post
    Agreed - that was what we thought with my Pontos game, but nothing showed up as being obviously a problem. It seems especially odd with Ptolemaioi, because all those icons were re-done by Tsar, and I haven't seen any issues with his work.

    But yes, this is the textbook symptom for a bad UI picture.

    All the more reason for EVERYBODY to report instances of this bug!
    i can tell you kull that i have had the same problem and it was down to alt tabbing out of the game and back in , something happens to the video memory ... ctd soon follows.
    i am confident it is the cause of this problem and not mod related.{i have seen it over 50 times easy as i alt tab a lot}
     
  8. Kull's Avatar

    Kull said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr mojo risin View Post
    i can tell you kull that i have had the same problem and it was down to alt tabbing out of the game and back in , something happens to the video memory ... ctd soon follows.
    i am confident it is the cause of this problem and not mod related.{i have seen it over 50 times easy as i alt tab a lot}
    Good point. Alt-tabbing definitely leads to CTDs, and display symptoms are part of that. I will note that I NEVER use alt-tab, but had this weird button problem anyway. So the key is, if people are using alt-tab AND getting this CTD? Stop using alt-tab. For those who don't and get the bug anyway, please post the details so we can investigate it further.
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  9. Anubis88's Avatar

    Anubis88 said:

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    Hey,

    i'll try and retrace my steps later on, i was browsing to see the starting infrastructure of the Ptolemies.

    On a simmilar note, in my pahlava campaing i suddenly realized the date and season isn't showing in the toolbar. Again nothing gamebraking, just small issues
     
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    Wulfburk said:

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    I thought it was alt tabbing as well, as i do it often. But i have to say i had this bug as Saba in 2.0, when i had gone a full section without alt tabbing. Do not remember which building i looked though.
    Then, as throngs of his enemies bore down upon him and one of his followers said, "They are making at thee, O King," "Who else, pray," said Antigonus, "should be their mark? But Demetrius will come to my aid." This was his hope to the last, and to the last he kept watching eagerly for his son; then a whole cloud of javelins were let fly at him and he fell.

    -Plutarch, life of Demetrius.

    Arche Aiakidae-Epeiros EB2 AAR
     
  11. mr mojo risin said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfburk View Post
    I thought it was alt tabbing as well, as i do it often. But i have to say i had this bug as Saba in 2.0, when i had gone a full section without alt tabbing. Do not remember which building i looked though.
    i think it might be connected to a certain 2gb ram limit if you catch my drift
     
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    Wulfburk said:

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    Well, i got 4gb and im using the large address aware on the kingdoms.exe to allow it use up to 4. Besides if it was that you'd get the same bug on vanilla and other mods, and i dont think i ever saw it on them.
    Then, as throngs of his enemies bore down upon him and one of his followers said, "They are making at thee, O King," "Who else, pray," said Antigonus, "should be their mark? But Demetrius will come to my aid." This was his hope to the last, and to the last he kept watching eagerly for his son; then a whole cloud of javelins were let fly at him and he fell.

    -Plutarch, life of Demetrius.

    Arche Aiakidae-Epeiros EB2 AAR
     
  13. mr mojo risin said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfburk View Post
    Well, i got 4gb and im using the large address aware on the kingdoms.exe to allow it use up to 4. Besides if it was that you'd get the same bug on vanilla and other mods, and i dont think i ever saw it on them.
    its a strange one , iv seen it on the rome engine , it could be memory leak.
     
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    Anubis88 said:

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    Hi,

    i have 8gb ram and i DIDN't all-tab in that game, i'm 100% sure of it. I don't do it at all since 2,0 froze the one time i tried it haha
     
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    ipwnu678 said:

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    this is a common problem, ive been having it with some mods on and off, its rare but ive just become used to it. usually its something to do with opening the info tabs for units and buildings often ive found
     
  16. Bingbangbong said:

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    this happened to me a fair few times playing as Arche Seleukeia recently on 2.01 and I wasn't alt tabbing. I just saved and reloaded whenever the image went funny and it normally ctd'd as I reloaded.