v2.4 has been released - please do NOT report any bugs if you are playing with previous versions

[Kull]

Did that, Nabatu horded, game worked.

Wow, I didn't think they would horde under those circumstances! Good to know.

[Ivir Baggins]

Wow, I didn't think they would horde under those circumstances! Good to know.

Admittedly, their horde spawned next to Akko, but it didn't break the game so I'm chalking that up as the miracle of Christmas.

[cecxla]

In the description of the last level temple of Vesta building there is a mistake, 'where' is used instead of 'were'.

[roberts193]

Hello

I have noticed that in the campaign my Hastati and Principes appear on the battlefield in loose formation and yet the icon in the UI shows close formation. When I click this to loose formation the troops move into close ranks on the battlefield. It is no big deal I was just wondering if anyone else has this and if so does it mean that although they are in loose formation on the battlefield they are actually fighting as if in close formation as shown on the UI or vice versa if you see what I mean. By the way this is my first post since 2.35 came out so it would be remiss not to congratulate and thank everyone involved for continuing to develop this super mod.

[QuintusSertorius]

Hello

I have noticed that in the campaign my Hastati and Principes appear on the battlefield in loose formation and yet the icon in the UI shows close formation. When I click this to loose formation the troops move into close ranks on the battlefield. It is no big deal I was just wondering if anyone else has this and if so does it mean that although they are in loose formation on the battlefield they are actually fighting as if in close formation as shown on the UI or vice versa if you see what I mean. By the way this is my first post since 2.35 came out so it would be remiss not to congratulate and thank everyone involved for continuing to develop this super mod.

It's deliberate, Romans do the reverse to what the UI says.

[roberts193]

Thank you QuintusSertorius for your prompt reply to my query regarding loose and close formation settings.

[Kull]

In the description of the last level temple of Vesta building there is a mistake, 'where' is used instead of 'were'.

Thanks for reporting this. Fixed in the dev build.

[torf]

Noted. There is a "hidden" successor system that wasn't removed when the new one was implemented. The team will discuss this.

I have tryed a campaign with the Kimerios Bosporos. But this time, the succession system work fine.

For my gallic campaign, despite he had the ancillary, I have seen that the family member didn't get the potential successor trait.

[Kull]

I have tryed a campaign with the Kimerios Bosporos. But this time, the succession system work fine.

For my gallic campaign, despite he had the ancillary, I have seen that the family member didn't get the potential successor trait.

The "hidden system" has been removed in the Dev build, so this problem will be eliminated in the next patch.

[torf]

Hello,


In my Koinon Hellenon campaign, I have tried to understand the trait mecanic. But as I was reading the export_descr_character_traits file, I think that I have maybe find some mistakes.


NaturalCharisma and NaturalIntelligence should be triggers for success as Proxenos.


2.35 version :

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Trigger ProxenosMissionSuccess2
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_kh
and Trait NaturalCharisma < 4
and Trait ProxenosMission = 1
and TimeInRegion > 11


Affects ProxenosMission 5 Chance 40


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Trigger ProxenosMissionSuccess3
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_kh
and Trait NaturalCharisma < 4
and Trait NaturalIntelligence < 4
and Trait ProxenosMission = 1
and TimeInRegion > 11


Affects ProxenosMission 2 Chance 25

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Trigger ProxenosMissionSuccess2
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_kh
and Trait NaturalCharisma > 4
and Trait ProxenosMission = 1
and TimeInRegion > 11


Affects ProxenosMission 5 Chance 40


;------------------------------------------
Trigger ProxenosMissionSuccess3
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_kh
and Trait NaturalCharisma > 4
and Trait NaturalIntelligence > 4
and Trait ProxenosMission = 1
and TimeInRegion > 11


Affects ProxenosMission 2 Chance 25

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Nauarkhos should be a Koinon Hellenon office. And the effects should affect only the Nauarkhos.


2.35 version :

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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Nauarkhos_Positive
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_kh
and Trait KHHipparkhos = 1
and Trait Selflessness > 2
and Trait Upright < 2
and Trait GoodLeader < 2
and Trait LogisticalSkill < 2


Affects Upright 1 Chance 6
Affects GoodLeader 1 Chance 6
Affects LogisticalSkill 1 Chance 6


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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Nauarkhos_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_rome
and Trait KHHipparkhos = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 3
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait BadLeader < 1
and Trait Anaisthetos < 2


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects BadLeader 1 Chance 6
Affects Anaisthetos 1 Chance 6


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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Nauarkhos_Positive
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_kh
and Trait KHNauarkhos = 1
and Trait Selflessness > 2
and Trait Upright < 2
and Trait GoodLeader < 2
and Trait LogisticalSkill < 2


Affects Upright 1 Chance 6
Affects GoodLeader 1 Chance 6
Affects LogisticalSkill 1 Chance 6


;------------------------------------------
Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Nauarkhos_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_kh
and Trait KHNauarkhos = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 3
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait BadLeader < 1
and Trait Anaisthetos < 2


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects BadLeader 1 Chance 6
Affects Anaisthetos 1 Chance 6


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Negative effects of the office should be for the Koinon Hellenon faction :
2.35 version :

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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Hipparkhos_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_rome
and Trait KHHipparkhos = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 3
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait BadLeader < 2
and Trait BadTactician < 1


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects BadLeader 1 Chance 6
Affects BadTactician 1 Chance 6


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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Hipparkhos_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_kh
and Trait KHHipparkhos = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 3
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait BadLeader < 2
and Trait BadTactician < 1


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects BadLeader 1 Chance 6
Affects BadTactician 1 Chance 6


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2.35 version :

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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Tamias_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_rome
and Trait KHTamias = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 3
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait Bdelyros < 2
and Trait ExpensiveTastes < 2


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects Bdelyros 1 Chance 6
Affects ExpensiveTastes 1 Chance 6


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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Tamias_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_kh
and Trait KHTamias = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 3
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait Bdelyros < 2
and Trait ExpensiveTastes < 2


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects Bdelyros 1 Chance 6
Affects ExpensiveTastes 1 Chance 6


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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Grammateus_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_rome
and Trait KHGrammateus = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 3
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait Anaisthetos < 2
and Trait Mikrologos < 2


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects Anaisthetos 1 Chance 6
Affects Mikrologos 1 Chance 6


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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Grammateus_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_kh
and Trait KHGrammateus = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 3
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait Anaisthetos < 2
and Trait Mikrologos < 2


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects Anaisthetos 1 Chance 6
Affects Mikrologos 1 Chance 6


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2.35 version :

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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Epilektarkhos_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_rome
and Trait KHEpilektarkhos = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 3
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait BadLeader < 2
and Trait Coward < 2


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects BadLeader 1 Chance 6
Affects Coward 1 Chance 6


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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Epilektarkhos_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_kh
and Trait KHEpilektarkhos = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 3
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait BadLeader < 2
and Trait Coward < 2


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects BadLeader 1 Chance 6
Affects Coward 1 Chance 6


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2.35 version :

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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Hieromnemos_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_rome
and Trait KHHieromnemos = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 2
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait Aponenoemenos < 2
and Trait PublicAtheism < 2


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects Aponenoemenos 1 Chance 6
Affects PublicAtheism 1 Chance 6


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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Hieromnemos_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_kh
and Trait KHHieromnemos = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 2
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait Aponenoemenos < 2
and Trait PublicAtheism < 2


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects Aponenoemenos 1 Chance 6
Affects PublicAtheism 1 Chance 6


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2.35 version :

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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Boularkhos_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_rome
and Trait KHBoularkhos = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 3
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait Eiron < 1
and Trait Lolopoios < 2


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects Eiron 1 Chance 6
Affects Lolopoios 1 Chance 6


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Trigger EffectsOfBeing_Boularkhos_Negative
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd


Condition FactionType f_kh
and Trait KHBoularkhos = 1
and Trait Selflessness < 3
and Trait Corrupt < 2
and Trait Eiron < 1
and Trait Lolopoios < 2


Affects Corrupt 1 Chance 6
Affects Eiron 1 Chance 6
Affects Lolopoios 1 Chance 6


;------------------------------------------

[QuintusSertorius]

Well spotted, I'll pass that along to the trait team.

[torf]

Hello,

Trying a roman campaign, I have a trait message announcement for some family members that aren't already 16.

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[Kull]

Hello,

Trying a roman campaign, I have a trait message announcement for some family members that aren't already 16.

Good observation, but it's not the underage guys who are eligible, but rather the 4 aged dead guys. We'll have to look at modifying the triggers to exclude them.

[Hamyz]

The Pritanoi description repeat dog two times.

''As well as other commodities such as slaves, dogs, skins, dogs, at times''

[Porphyrogenita]

With the Baktrian missions: I started the Alexandria Eschate mission and whilst this was running, I got another mission to take two (Parthian) cities and some Elephants. After I completed the Alexandria Eschate mission I got a "Well Done" message, but later, at the expiry of the 30 turns to take the two provinces, I got a message saying specifically that I had failed the A-E mission.

[Porphyrogenita]

A correction: The message is the correct one in terms of the failure to complete the 2 cities conquest mission, but the text of the message contains an incorrect reference to the AE mission being failed when it was in fact completed.
See..
Regards
P.

[Marvzilla]

I may start to compile some small texture and model problems here, first a glaring one with the Ekupeta (Sp ?): The whole unit has messed up textures, the ones without chainmail have the mail texture over the normal shirts, also they have weird lines going all over their body regardless which armour they carry.

[QuintusSertorius]

With the Baktrian missions: I started the Alexandria Eschate mission and whilst this was running, I got another mission to take two (Parthian) cities and some Elephants. After I completed the Alexandria Eschate mission I got a "Well Done" message, but later, at the expiry of the 30 turns to take the two provinces, I got a message saying specifically that I had failed the A-E mission.

A correction: The message is the correct one in terms of the failure to complete the 2 cities conquest mission, but the text of the message contains an incorrect reference to the AE mission being failed when it was in fact completed.
See..
Regards
P.

Updated, thanks for spotting that.

[Marvzilla]

Here are some pictures of the above mentioned problems with the Ekupeta:

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In the first picture here you see an Sauromatian Cataphract model of which the helmet model is see through, regardless the distance:

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In this picture you see the Roxolani riders, I am not quite sure if their armbands are supposed to be blue:

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In the following pictures you see the Sauromatian BG, at their side there is an arrow model at all times sticking out:

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Here is a problem Ive reported already, the Skaplinai have some weird lightning going on for some helmets, this doesnt change in relation to shadows or anything:

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Same with the Thracian Aristocrats:

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Thats all I have, some clipping issues with other new units but nothing as glaring as the ones above.

[Jurand of Cracow]

A few minor issues from playing Pritanoi:
Construction costs should be -5% not, +5:

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Elutheroi instead of Eleutheroi

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Placeholder pics

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This is the only bug that's a bug, I think: I got overheating problems in the summer in Kaledonia (!?):

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The symbol shown is that of Aruernoi, not Aedui

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Nedes are spearmen but on the pic they're wielding a sword:

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Gargokladoi are well-clad with a shirt (armour: 2), but on the icon they're topless:

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