The conditions of the Islamists are strict: No photo, no recordings,his real name he does not reveal anyway. Nor, from what country he came from, only that he was Arab. His English is polished, with a British accent.
Abu Sattar he calls himself, a 30-year-old man with thick black beard that reaches him up to his chest, his hair shaved off above the upper lip, his head shaved. He wears a black, floor-length gown. In a black leather briefcase he carried a wound in a cloth Koran.
Abu Sattar recruits fighters for the terrorist militia "Islamic State" (IS) in Turkey. He examines the ethos of prospects who travel from all over the world to Turkey and want to go from there to the "holy war" in Iraq or Syria. Several IS-trailers have independently recommended him as an interlocutor. As someone who could best explain what the IS stands for. For many he is something like an ideological model.
After some hesitation, Abu Sattar agrees to a meeting. He made an appointment and promises, in time a place to call. But then he can burst the appointment, only one day later again identify a meeting in the morning, in a public place. This time he actually appeared: a man with brown eyes behind rimless glasses. He looks confident and combative, ordered tea and leaves during the call a prayer chain with wooden beads slip through his hands.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: Assalamu alaikum.
Abu Sattar: Are you Muslim?
SPIEGEL ONLINE: What does it matter? For me, religion is a private matter.
Abu Sattar, Why then say "Assalamu alaikum"?
SPIEGEL ONLINE: Because it means "Peace be with you" and I think it is a friendly greeting.
Abu Sattar: So you are not a Muslim. I knew it!
SPIEGEL ONLINE: Why is your thinking at the "Islamic State" constantly driven to divide the world into believers and unbelievers? Why is in the "Islamic State" everything always black and white, "us against the rest of the world"?
Abu Sattar: Who began? Who conquered the world and trid to subdue all other cultures and religions? The history of colonialism is long and bloody. And it continues to this day, in the form of arrogance of the West towards all others. "Us against the rest of the world.", Which is the driving formula of the West Other hand, we Muslims do finally a successful resistance.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: You terrorize and kill innocent people, especially Muslims, by the way. You call that successful resistance?
Abu Sattar: We follow the word of Allah. We believe it is the only task of mankind, to worship Allah and his prophet Mohammed, peace be with him. We implement what is written in the Koran. If successful, of course it is a success.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: Do you think that those who cut off other peoplesheads, are good Muslims?
Abu Sattar: Counter question: Do you think that those who bombard them with warplanes at Afghan wedding parties or ínvade with false reason in a country like Iraq, are good Christians? Are those responsible for Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo good Christians?
SPIEGEL ONLINE: You dodge. What you mention did not happen in the name of religion and was heavily criticized in the West. Once more: What is a good Muslim for you? Which people do you recruit?
Abu Sattar: A Muslim's who followed Allah's laws without any ifs and buts. The Sharia is our law, it requires no interpretation and no man-made laws. Allah is the only legislator. We note that there are enough people,even in Germany, who feel the emptiness of the modern world and yearn for values, like Islam embodies. Who is against the Sharia, is not a Muslim. We talk to the people who come to us, and check in discussions, if they are strong in their faith.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: There are an estimated 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide. Many are very democratic, some are liberal, some conservative, and imagine, there are heterosexuals and homosexuals among them. Most do not share your ideology. But you act as if there were only one kind of Muslims, namely those who share your ideology. That's absurd!
Abu Sattar: democracy is for unbelievers. A true Muslim is not a Democrat, because he is not interest the opinions of majorities or minorities. He is interested in what Islam has to say. Moreover, democracy is an instrument of domination of the West and the opposite of Islam. Why do you pretend to need the whole world democracy? And as for homosexuality,it is clearly regulated in the Koran. It is therefore forbidden and punished.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: With such statements you urge all Muslims in the terror corner. In many countries there is increasing pressure on them to plead against the "Islamic state", even though they have nothing to do with terrorism.
Abu Sattar: And? They raise their voice against us or not? (He laughs.) I think there are a lot more supporters for us than you want to admit . Those who call themselfes Muslims should show their colors, completely right. We go one step further: All people should commit themselves whether they submit to Allah or not. Who is against us is our enemy and must be fought. This includes those people who call themselves Muslims, but who do not align their lifes after islam, who drink alcohol, do not pray, do not fast, constantly have multiple partners and can not recite the Koran.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: There are many Muslims who deliberately choose such a lifestyle.
Abu Sattar: That may be, but it is not Allah's will. If we have the final say, at some point, Inshallah, in the whole world, then there will be only Sharia law. Such people will have to suffer for their behavior.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: You kidnap non-Muslim women, turning them into sex slaves, crucify or behead followers other faiths, even children. How is this Islamic?
Abu Sattar: Why is no one excited about the many people who Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has on his conscience? But now that we have establish a caliphate there, it's suddenly a problem? To answer your question: It is the duty of every Muslim to fight against other faiths, until only Allah is venerated all over the world . Everyone has the chance to confess to God and to walk in the right way. (Recite in Arabic from the Koran, Sura 5, verse 37) "Behold, the wages of those who are feuding Allah and His Messenger and spread corruption on earth, is only that they are killed or crucified or that their hands and feet are mutually to be maimed or that they are driven from the land. "
SPIEGEL ONLINE: Few non-Muslims "feud" anyone. Billion people, no matter what religion live peacefully with each other, or at least side by side.
Abu Sattar: (Recite in Arabic again, this time fourth sura, verse 91) "They (.. Unbelievers - Red d) wish that ye should reject Faith as they have disbelieved, and that you are equal to them, Take but not of. . among them friends until they did not emigrate in the way of Allah and so they turn their backs, so they seize them and beat them to death wherever you find them; and take not from among them a friend or helper. "
SPIEGEL ONLINE: Youdodge by answering the complex reality of religious verses. But if you really want to argue this way: In the Koran also says that there is no compulsion in religion. Is elsewhere, that "the measure does not exceed" should, because God does not love transgressors. What you do is beyond measure.
Abu Sattar: Yes, that is in the second sura. There, however, it also sais that one should kill the infidels or cast them out wherever you come across them.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: In the heyday of Islam there was music, dance, painting, calligraphy, architecture. You on the other hand promote a cultural and art free Islam. Time that you discussed religious content and contemporary interpretation, do not you?
Abu Sattar: It is not onus to interpret God's Word. In Islamic societies there have been mistakes and failings. What you call "heyday", I count o them as well.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: So you would have to at least work to ensure that Muslims read the Koran in their languages so that they can understand what they are to follow there. Most can not speak Arabic. Do you think then that the many calls for fighting and killing would be met with love?
Abu Sattar: Just as it says in the Qur'an, it is Allah's word. Also the translation is not for us. It's not about whether it is popular or not. We must not question a single word.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: You keep people ignorant and build your power on it. This is the scam of all extremists, including yours.
Abu Sattar: You have your point of view, we ours.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: But you fight all those who do not share your point of view.
Abu Sattar: Christians and Jews want to kill those, who possess raw materials, but deny them access. Crude oil is the best example. Constantly the United States and its allies mix in countries where they have no business, only because they fear for their prosperity. Is that better? We fight not because we are greedy and selfish, but for values and morals.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: Values and morality are not much to be seen, if we follow your actions in Iraq and Syria. The impression remains that it is characterized by an inferiority complex. This also applies to your recruits: People who feel excluded and finally see a chance to live out their fantasies of power.
Abu Sattar: It is not true that to us only people come who have had no success in life. Among them are many who have completed their studies, people who were established. But they all see the injustices that we Muslims have had a long experience with, and want to fight it.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: You are always talking about fighting. But do Muslims not emphasize always, Islam is a religion of peace?
Abu Sattar: This is it, especially when all people submit to Allah. Allah is merciful and forgives those who follow him.
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