IB2 IBFD II Developments

[Antiokhos Euergetes]

..There will be a stunning Battle of Chalons and an incredible emerging spawns for the battle of Battle of Nedao

Fantastic, so new fresh threats on the Danube? Brilliant

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Will the 438 campaign start with the Battle of Mons Colubrarius? Where Aetius and Litorius attacked the Goths before they could draw up a battle line and personally routed them, where allegedly 8000 of Theodoric's men were slain?

[Reno Melitensis]

Will the 438 campaign start with the Battle of Mons Colubrarius? Where Aetius and Litorius attacked the Goths before they could draw up a battle line and personally routed them, where allegedly 8000 of Theodoric's men were slain?

That can be done, but off course you have to attack the Visigoths before they form a line. The only battle that will be certainly spawned on event will be the Battle of Chalons and the Battle of Nadao. On my custom copy I scripted the WRE, the Franki and the Visigoths to fight against a coalition of Hunii, Ostroghoti, Gepidii and Rugii. The stalks where 2,1,1,against 2,1,1,1, and it turn out beautifully. One major problem will be to move by script the commanders, ie Flavius Aetius, Attilla, and each King of the Germanic Allies. So first I had to script an alliance between the factions. The Huns at the start of the game will be allied with all the Gepids, Ostroghots and Rugii. In my custom mod I gave each Germanic faction a settlement, and they remained Allied with the Huns until I spawned them armies for the Battle of Nadao. The actual battle was fought between the Gepids and Ostroghots, that as part of the Hunnic allied party where allies themselves, and off course the Huns. I only witnessed the battle as I was test playing with the WRE, but it would have been great to play the battle. The other problem is to keep the Visighots and Franks allied with the WRE as long as possible if both factions are played by the AI.

off course the battle plan will have to be moddified to be played in IBFD II, as I created my custom mod around the map of Odovacer. I would be glad to answer any other questions, but please o not ask me about any other strategic policies as I promised the parties concerned not to ay anything about it. Attila would be furious if he knew that I blow his battle plan.

Cheers

[Riothamus]

Will the 438 campaign start with the Battle of Mons Colubrarius? Where Aetius and Litorius attacked the Goths before they could draw up a battle line and personally routed them, where allegedly 8000 of Theodoric's men were slain?

The mod will start in 451 with the epic clash between the legendary Attila and Aetius. Playing the Huns you have a chance to change history and will have to survive the very difficult task of keeping the Hunnic confederation an Empire with the battle of Nedao. If we do a second provincial campaign it will be the year 436AD but the focus will be on 451AD at this time. With IB2 developers such as Reno, and a co leader of this mod, we will make these events grand as they were historically.

[Roma_Victrix]

The mod will start in 451 with the epic clash between the legendary Attila and Aetius. Playing the Huns you have a chance to change history and will have to survive the very difficult task of keeping the Hunnic confederation an Empire with the battle of Nedao. If we do a second provincial campaign it will be the year 436AD but the focus will be on 451AD at this time. With IB2 developers such as Reno, and a co leader of this mod, we will make these events grand as they were historically.

Sounds excellent Riothamus, but seriously, when are you EVER going to pull that GODDAMN excalibur sword out from that stone?! Quit torturing yourself, bro.

[Reno Melitensis]

Sounds excellent Riothamus, but seriously, when are you EVER going to pull that GODDAMN excalibur sword out from that stone?! Quit torturing yourself, bro.

There are rumors going around that there is a troll holding it down.

Cheers

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

On my custom copy I scripted the WRE, the Franki and the Visigoths to fight against a coalition of Hunii, Ostroghoti, Gepidii and Rugii. The stalks where 2,1,1,against 2,1,1,1, and it turn out beautifully.

What about the Alans, the backbone of the Roman defence of Gaul? And the party that actually faced down the Hunnic center?

The actual battle was fought between the Gepids and Ostroghots, that as part of the Hunnic allied party where allies themselves, and off course the Huns.

The Amali Goths actually didn't participate, according to Heather's "The Goths." He says that the Goths followed suit in revolt once news of the Gepids breaking the Huns after the battle spread.

Jordanes, like in Chalons, just wanted to make it seem like they were pivotal in breaking the Hunnic power.

The mod will start in 451 with the epic clash between the legendary Attila and Aetius. Playing the Huns you have a chance to change history and will have to survive the very difficult task of keeping the Hunnic confederation an Empire with the battle of Nedao. If we do a second provincial campaign it will be the year 436AD but the focus will be on 451AD at this time. With IB2 developers such as Reno, and a co leader of this mod, we will make these events grand as they were historically.

Ah okay. I had thought you were starting with two campaigns (438 and 451) kind of like IBVGR.

[Reno Melitensis]

The Alani will not be represented by a faction, instead Roman-Alanic Cavalry will be in the Roman army. As you said, it was the Gepids that rebelled first against the Huns, but I guess that when news reached them, they didn't stay put, they followed the Gepids to war.

Cheers

[demagogos nicator]

The scripted battles sounds amazing. Will be the battle of Nedao date triggered or it is possible to make it triggers when Attila dies? Glad to hear that Rugii are ingame as a playlabel faction, I always missed the playlable faction in the central Danube in BI. I am little bit sad that Alani have not made it in as they would have been quite unique faction but I understand you have some more important factions to add.

[Riothamus]

The scripted battles sounds amazing. Will be the battle of Nedao date triggered or it is possible to make it triggers when Attila dies? Glad to hear that Rugii are ingame as a playlabel faction, I always missed the playlable faction in the central Danube in BI. I am little bit sad that Alani have not made it in as they would have been quite unique faction but I understand you have some more important factions to add.

The AI Atilla will die but the local(human player) will be able to keep Attila alive and the same goes for Aetius. But their will be unfortunate strong character traits that coincide to how they historically died. The game may or may not take their lives as in History but their will be a proclivity towards their demise. The Rugi will certainly be a faction we will seriously consider within the game when we decide to expand it after its first release.

Sounds excellent Riothamus, but seriously, when are you EVER going to pull that GODDAMN excalibur sword out from that stone?! Quit torturing yourself, bro.

That's funny!! I am going to change it very soon

[Roma_Victrix]

There are rumors going around that there is a troll holding it down.

Cheers

Those trolls will never give Riothamus, let alone King Arthur, a break, will they? Total dicks.

Someone should evict them from the lands of the Britons.

That's funny!! I am going to change it very soon

Do what you must, but I implore you to reconsider! Upon reflection, I have realized that to me your distinct and easily recognizable avatar is an inalienable part of your identity here. To change it now would be something akin to a sex change operation, or putting on black face! It just seems like blasphemy!

In either case, I won't judge, but I hope the new avatar is just as good. I also hope to see your mod released soon, preferably by the end of the summer. Eh?

[Riothamus]

Those trolls will never give Riothamus, let alone King Arthur, a break, will they? Total dicks.

Someone should evict them from the lands of the Britons.




Do what you must, but I implore you to reconsider! Upon reflection, I have realized that to me your distinct and easily recognizable avatar is an inalienable part of your identity here. To change it now would be something akin to a sex change operation, or putting on black face! It just seems like blasphemy!

In either case, I won't judge, but I hope the new avatar is just as good. I also hope to see your mod released soon, preferably by the end of the summer. Eh?

God I love that Monty Python Movie!! The massacre during the wedding scene is my favorite

[Gäiten]

God I love that Monty Python Movie!! The massacre during the wedding scene is my favorite

Well it was never supposed to be a Red Wedding

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

ut their will be unfortunate strong character traits that coincide to how they historically died.

In this case I am absolutely fascinated by how you will represent Aetius' death through Valentinian's desire to break the child emperor system. <- Not sarcasm.

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

He's not quite dead!

[Riothamus]

It doesn't matter how many times I watch that movie, nothing but hysterical insane sounding laughter
sio
This is the Eurasian Bear of 5th century Britain



The Slavs. The city will be lager and the Kingdom a bit larger and Basil might want to change the banner lol

[Roma_Victrix]

He's not quite dead!

If that be the case, then he'll be receiving HUGE...tracks of land:

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It doesn't matter how many times I watch that movie, nothing but hysterical insane sounding laughter
sio
This is the Eurasian Bear of 5th century Britain



The Slavs. The city will be lager and the Kingdom a bit larger and Basil might want to change the banner lol

I'm not too incredibly fussed about the banners, to be honest, considering how banners, although important to the medieval battlefield considering the traditions of heraldry, weren't really the mainstay of battlefields in antiquity, right? At least not as far as Celtic, Germanic, and Slavic tribes were concerned, correct? I mean, obviously the Romans had banners, as well as the Parthians and their successors the Sassanids (if I remember correctly, it is said they had great bright banners made of Chinese silk at the Battle of Carrhae, in order to show off and intimidate the army of Crassus but also perhaps for practical purposes of signaling or conveniently identifying their own troops). In either case, I look forward to the awesome looking banners of the Western and Eastern Roman Empires.

Speaking of silk from Han China, I am well aware that the Romans used it for luxury clothing (the translucent variety causing some scandal during the reign of Augustus), but like the Parthians, did they use this material at all for banners like the vexillum? One would think it would have been way too expensive, and that dying wool would have sufficed. What kind of cloth fabric was used? Was it simply wool?

[demagogos nicator]

It doesn't matter how many times I watch that movie, nothing but hysterical insane sounding laughter
sio
This is the Eurasian Bear of 5th century Britain



The Slavs. The city will be lager and the Kingdom a bit larger and Basil might want to change the banner lol

Glad to see Slavs in game. What connection has the Eurosian bear with 5th century Britain? It seems I am missing something apparently.. Anyway the banner looks really good

[Riothamus]

Glad to see Slavs in game. What connection has the Eurosian bear with 5th century Britain? It seems I am missing something apparently.. Anyway the banner looks really good

The Bear in Domnonia is just something I'm messing around with as the symbol of the quasi King, Arthur or Artorius, the bear. The region probably under Ambrosius and its strong ties to Arthur. Basil might changing many of the banners.
Beyond the Danube, the Slavs, Lombards, Ostrogoths, Germanic Saxons, Alemanni and Huns, we have thus far. We will add the Gepids, Thuringia and then possibly Bulgars, Rugians, and Avars

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

You could rename them to Veneti or Sclaveni et Antes (the Veneti became the latter two, who would become the... Croats and Serbs respectively, I believe).