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    Default 2nd world-wide community Total War survey [RESULTS]



    Salve TWC members and all you fans of the TotalWar franchise!

    Welcome to the concilium plebis secundum, the second world-wide community based survey made by the TW community for the TW community.
    This one is designed for all fans of the franchise, not just limited to TotalWar: Rome 2

    Number of participants so far: 4828 (final)

    THE RESULTS




    Spoiler for Chapter 1: Basic questions

    Spoiler for Chapter 1.1: Basic questions - Age of all players / participants




    Spoiler for Chapter 1.3: Basic questions - Opinion about Steam as platform for TW games




    Spoiler for Chapter 1.4: Basic questions - Ownership of Total War games





    Spoiler for Chapter 1.5: Basic questions - Satisfaction with the survey






    Spoiler for Chapter 2: Technical questions

    Spoiler for Chapter 2.1: Technical questions / comparisons - Platform




    Spoiler for Chapter 2.2: Technical questions / comparisons - OS and OS architecture




    Spoiler for Chapter 2.3: Technical questions / comparisons - Hardware




    Spoiler for Chapter 2.4: Technical questions / comparisons - Comparing Steam users and TW players







    Spoiler for Chapter 3: Modding









    Spoiler for Chapter 4: Multiplayer Questions

    Spoiler for Chapter 4.1: Multiplayer Questions - General question


    Result based on all participants


    The following results are based on those that answered "yes"

    Spoiler for Chapter 4.2: Multiplayer Questions - Role the player




    Spoiler for Chapter 4.3: Multiplayer Questions - Multiplayer battles




    Spoiler for Chapter 4.4: Multiplayer Questions - Multiplayer campaign / hotseat




    Spoiler for Chapter 4.5: Multiplayer Questions - Integration of legacy TW MP modes into Steam (Rome 1, Medieval 2)




    Spoiler for Chapter 4.6: Multiplayer Questions - Rating MP modes and features





    Spoiler for Chapter 4.7: Multiplayer Questions - Tournaments







    Spoiler for Chapter 5: Rome 2 questions

    Spoiler for Chapter 5.1: Rome 2 questions- Playing habits





    Spoiler for Chapter 5.2: Rome 2 questions - Satisfaction with the game and patches






    Spoiler for Chapter 5.3: Rome 2 questions - Rating single player campaign completion rate (Rome 2 / whole Total War franchise)




    Spoiler for Chapter 5.4: Rome 2 questions - Rating game complexity (Rome 2 / whole Total War franchise)




    Spoiler for Chapter 5.5: Rome 2 questions - Seasons




    Spoiler for Chapter 5.6: Rome 2 questions - About DLCs





    Spoiler for Chapter 5.7: Rome 2 questions - Rating commonly / often reported issues




    Spoiler for Chapter 5.8: Rome 2 questions - Rating features




    Spoiler for Chapter 5.9: Rome 2 questions - Opinions / comparisons to the December survey





    Spoiler for Chapter 5.10: Rome 2 questions - Sources






    Spoiler for Chapter 6: The future of Total War

    Spoiler for Chapter 6.1: The future of Total War - Community ideas and features




    Spoiler for Chapter 6.2: The future of Total War - Importance of features in Rome 2 or a next TW game




    Spoiler for Chapter 6.3.: The future of Total War - New engine / Rating CA communication / Lookout




    Spoiler for Chapter 6.4: The future of Total War - Next Total War game / theme






    Thank you to all people that spent the time taking the survey! This would never been possible without your appreciation and patience!
    Akhenaton I am so thankful you've put so many time into creating the charts above and evaluating the results of the survey.
    You are the "employee of the year" mate.

    Hope you enjoy the results! Don't forget to rep the people in the credits.



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    - Chapter 4.3, fixed error in the chart - thanks to PrussianPrince
    - Chapter 5.3: Rome 2 questions - Rating single player campaign completion rate (Rome 2 / whole Total War franchise) - missing picture
    - Chapter 5.5: Rome 2 questions - Features - renamed to "Seasons"
    - Chapter 5.8: Rome 2 questions - Rating features - missing picture
    - Chapter 5.2: Rome 2 questions - Satisfaction - broken link to the picture was fixed - thanks to Tiberius Cracktus
    Last edited by alQamar; November 27, 2014 at 08:36 AM.

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    Default Re: 2nd world-wide community survey for ALL Totalwar fans

    CREDITS

    Cordial thanks to all that contributed in refining the survey content, the patient and helpful editors that ironed out a lot of my mistakes, the people that offered their time for testing the beta survey and anyone that contributed with valuable feedback to help this survey gets as whole as possible.
    Thank you to all people from the TWC staff that were involved in organisational questions and other things.
    Last but not least: Thank you to Fredrin, who once had the original idea for doing a community survey and obviously The Creative Assembly, as without their game and their patches to it, there would be quite none reason for a new survey at all.

    Organisational matters / promotion / spokesman:
    al Qamar (TWC Member)

    Charts / results:
    Akhenaton (TWC Member)

    Contributors or helper in organisational matters (random order):
    m_1512 (TWC Content Director)
    Finlander (TWC Moderator)
    BunnypoopCereal (TWC Gaming Staff)
    Omnipotent-Q (Hexxagon Council Admin)
    Marshall of France (TWC User)
    Hetairos (TWC User)
    SP4 (TWC User)
    Sebidee (TWC User)

    Editors (random order):
    Stocker (TAoW Clan)
    Plantagenet Rex (OTD Clan)

    Youtube trailer / machinima (random order):
    Kaisa88TotalWAR
    The Wolfman

    Artwork:
    GERULA666

    Original idea:
    Fredrin

    Contributing websites, community members and communities (announcements):
    TWcenter.net
    Total War Türkiye (Turkish TW news page and community)
    Total War Rome 2 (German TW news page and community)
    HeavenGames / TW Heaven
    The Org
    Total War Network (TW Community hub)
    The Best of Total War (Russian TW Steam Community)
    Rome Total War World Players (International TW Steam Community)
    BETA Flash Tournament (International TW Community for competitive multiplayer)
    Honga.net (most comprehensive encyclopedia for Total War)
    Cosmic Contrarian (TW youtuber)
    LegendofTotalWar (TW youtuber)
    GameDudester (Youtuber and TW fan)
    Lionheartx10 (TW youtuber)


    It was a pleasure to work with you!
    Let your reps flow to all mentioned and kudos to about 30 more unmentioned contributors among the Steam TW community.

    Yours respectfully,
    al Qamar



    Last edited by alQamar; November 22, 2014 at 06:25 PM.

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    Spoiler for Original opening post


    It has been a long time since we held the last “concilium plebis”.
    Last time Fredrin was in charge to setup a community survey and it did quite well. Nearly 4400 people all over the world answered about 20 questions about Rome 2, in just 8 weeks of time.
    Now nearly 8 months later and in expectation of the 1st Rome 2 release anniversary, I asked the community on TWC if they like to have another survey. I haven’t got a massive amount of replies, yet the vast majority voted for a “yes”.
    So decided to setup a new survey together with friends from the TW community. This survey will be considerably longer and more in-depth than it was in December, for good reason:
    The first survey was merely focused on the user satisfaction with the game, features, issues and questions about DLCs. A lot of people, mainly on totalwar.com, complaint that the survey Fredrin made, also with community help, was quite biased and so they also neglected the quite negative results of it.
    However having that amount of participants, even a lot outside the forums, made a good sample, but never a community survey is able to reflect a representative result, like a professional made survey that is done by specialists.
    Nevertheless the “concilium plebis secundum” I now kindly ask you to participate in, has a much more neutral and professional drive, I hope.
    This belongs how questions being asked and answers can be given, to address the quite valid complaints we had in the past. Still I also included very vital question from the old survey with the quite same phrasing, so it is possible to make comparisons to the results we had in December. I hope you won’t mind the phrasing of these few questions then. All recurring questions are intentionally marked.
    The “concilium plebis secundum”, as said, is much more complex, it handles a lot of aspects and addresses a wider player base, than just the single player community:

    Those are the main topics included:
    Spoiler for Original opening post


    • small hardware survey
    • general questions about TW
    • TW multiplayer community questions about multiplayer battles (optional)
    • TW multiplayer community questions about multiplayer campaign (optional)
    • TW modding community questions (optional)
    • TW Rome 2 (optional)
    • TW community / ideas
    • TW future / your wishes

    Please do not be too disappointed that there still may be some questions not being included or handled with more detailed, such as historical authenticity, the latest DLC et cetera et cetera, as this survey is already very long and we need avoid distracting people with shorter attention spans taking part in this survey.

    The survey asks you a minimum of 32 questions and maximum of 80 questions, which are easy and quite fast to answer, but please take your time.
    According to our many beta testers you need ~15-35 minutes to complete. (Ofc also depending on your own level of understanding of the english language)

    Here is a little appetizer for you. Enjoy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdC_NWX_j2I
    For comments, likes and reps to the video please use the direct link above.

    Enough of the words, now raise your own voice: (Survey has been closed - link removed)

    Last edited by alQamar; November 22, 2014 at 09:12 AM.

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    Default Re: 2nd world-wide community survey for ALL Totalwar fans

    voted !

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    it is not the good link (it goes to the beta)
    the good link
    http://kwiksurveys.com/app/rendersur...r=migbetausers

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    Default Re: 2nd world-wide community survey for ALL Totalwar fans

    fixed it sorry. the old still will redirect you to the final. but to avoid the irritation of course I fixed the link in the OP thanks baptistus.
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    Done.
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    done

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    The survey mentions lack of HDR: the game does include HDR, just it's permanently on AFAIK (without mods)
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    ok thanks. Yes I mentioned it as it could not be turned off. For some users this maybe positive. But sometimes I am not very sure about the existance of HDR when I look to the lightning quality.

    When I helped the machinima guys there are really hard curves and artifacts in the sky depending the lightning. Does look like a GIF picture with a color palette :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by alQamar View Post
    ok thanks. Yes I mentioned it as it could not be turned off. For some users this maybe positive. But sometimes I am not very sure about the existance of HDR when I look to the lightning quality.

    When I helped the machinima guys there are really hard curves and artifacts in the sky depending the lightning. Does look like a GIF picture with a color palette :/
    Colour banding all that relevant to HDR (or lack thereof)... do you know what HDR does?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Causeless View Post
    Colour banding all that relevant to HDR (or lack thereof)... do you know what HDR does?
    yes but this is the wrong thread to discuss it Causeless. Basically HDR is OFF in the preferences.script.txt so we cannot be sure if CA changed the whole thing. Why would they after so many years? Same Tesselation. But again discussing this in detail is offtopic.
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    Done just hope CA will teake notice, i stumbled upon results thread from previous one ind the ending post was something about it all being irrelevant due to the way questions were formed, and people who took it not being representative of THE WHOLE plaing comunity...and generaly I got the impresion CA wont give a F*%k about it...so hope they will take this one under consideration...or come up with their own version or somethin.

    Great job anyway. I would rep U guys if I knew how

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    Survey taken, very nicely done.

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    umm, which game is that in the trailers? Never saw cities as massive as that with multiple temples in the distance,
    nor the circus maximus, though granted , by the time one builds a lv 4 rome campital or something ,
    the enemy doesnt have a prayer of reaching it .
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    Quote Originally Posted by revan.be View Post
    umm, which game is that in the trailers?
    rome 2 total war.
    It is a video made by a player, so there is no false advertising on it (except maybe the last picture which come from ..... CA lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by baptistus View Post
    rome 2 total war.
    It is a video made by a player, so there is no false advertising on it (except maybe the last picture which come from ..... CA lol)
    it is basically the same false advertising as CA does and as all machinimas are. They are heavily edited / and or filtered then use mods to make it look brilliant Both try to get the best out of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4 View Post
    For the next survey, split MP campaign and MP battles into two separate thingies.

    I voted no, I don't play MP because it went on to ask me a bunch of things that I could not answer because I only ever play the SP or MP campaign. I don't do MP battles or avatar conquests or anything like that.
    So then SP4 I assume you did not understood the question. You had the opportunity to say no I do not play multiplayer battles and so skip all MP related questions.
    Based on the feedback by SP4, I ensured that people can understand better that the topics

    multiplayer questions
    Modding questions
    Rome 2 questions

    are optional depending on the players situation and taste. We had a beta with a lot of people taking the survey but well no one is infalible.

    Here is an example of this change, which is visible in all 3 decision pages as said above.

    If someone still misunderstood or not read that, I am afraid I cannot help her/him anymore. Do you think this is ok now?


    If you are sure that you do not want to answer any questions about

    Multiplayer modes in TotalWar

    only then please select "no".
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    Quote Originally Posted by alQamar View Post



    So then SP4 I assume you did not understood the question. You had the opportunity to say no I do not play multiplayer battles and so skip all MP related questions.
    Based on the feedback by SP4, I ensured that people can understand better that the topics





    I play tons of MP campaigns, so I clicked yes! And then it took me to a survey about a bunch of stuff I've never even heard of :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4 View Post


    I play tons of MP campaigns, so I clicked yes! And then it took me to a survey about a bunch of stuff I've never even heard of :p

    Hey SP4, this is a valid problem I understand the issue now. I try to solve this and seperate the campaign questions from the mp battle questions asap.
    Thanks for making me aware about this.



    Quote Originally Posted by nicolasete View Post
    Done.

    Interesting survey, although there were many answers that had a very restrictive set of answers (specially in the multiplayer section).
    Also... the "what do you think the next total war will be" secion was REALLY lackluster. No 16th./17th. Century TW (the only major gap still to be covered by TW) nor Warhammer TW (most likely the next TW, like it or not).
    Quote Originally Posted by Causeless View Post
    No China: TW, either.

    I think you had 2 valid options to vote for a 16/17th Century one was "ETW / Napoleon II / Victorian" the other one was "other" which also includes Warhammer TW. there is no confirmation about Warhammer mate so it is only likely but for some reason it is not included. Same for some other proposals, it is quite impossible to include all scenes like China etc. but I admin that all would have been interesting.

    I am sorry this cannot be changed now. Any change on the questions will consequently delete the votes given in this edited question.
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    Default Re: 2nd world-wide community survey for ALL Totalwar fans

    Done.

    Interesting survey, although there were many answers that had a very restrictive set of answers (specially in the multiplayer section).



    Also... the "what do you think the next total war will be" secion was REALLY lackluster. No 16th./17th. Century TW (the only major gap still to be covered by TW) nor Warhammer TW (most likely the next TW, like it or not).

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