Money and Muslims

[General Store]

I am playing as the Byzantines and own every province from Hungary to Kerak/Jerusalem (wiped out the Hungarians the Turks and own all their lands) and I still make only about 10000 florins per turn, on some of those AAR, guys are talking about 250 000 florins in the bank!!!! Does anyone know how thats done?

Byzantines have some great units, but I cant afford them

Also, I think that the muslim units are way to strong, compared to the other factions that is, does anyone agree? Feudal sergeants drop like flies, where as saracen infantry, you can stab them 79 times with a sword and then hit them with a trebeuchet on the head and only then...they might develop a limp

[Garnier]

I agree the moslems are a bit strong. As to the money, I think its because of the huge unit sizes taking twice the populations from your cities but costing the same upkeep and recruitment cost. It unbalances the financial system of the game. When I played with 100 man units, I was always low on money.

[General Store]

So are you saying that because there are less people in the cities, there is less money coming in with taxes? So, play it on smaller unit sizes?

[Garnier]

maybe I was a bit unclear, but I think the reason is, you dont pay as much upkeep for the same amount of men if you use huge units, so all that extra money piles up over time.

[General Store]

Ahh, I see. Thanks for that, would probably make for nicer battles to. Will give it a go.

[Fondor_Yards]

Muslim units seem to be just as strong as same strength Christian units to me.

As for money, it depends on how big your army is. In my AAR, I have to pay over 35,000 a turn in army upkeep, thats what keeps me from getting rich.One turn I made 15,000 a turn, but the next went back to my normal 2k-4k gain before building/training. Also what makes money in CTW is taxes, not trade. I make like 25k+ from taxes, but only 8k from trade despite having a dozen or more port cities. I almost make as much from farming, 6k as I do from trade. So be sure to always upgrade those tax buildings you get.

[Elohim]

The Muslims are fine when I'm fighting them - I've defeated them outnumbered 4:1 before
Money wise I only make 10000 a turn tops, and that's with England, France, Germany, and most of the Holy Land. Too many garrisons made up of decent troops is what it is for me...