GX2 beats X1950

[Arakorn]

Right. Huge difference. Just look at the GameSpot BF 2142 performance guide, Graphics section. GX2 gets 85 FPS, X1950 gets 59!

7900GTX gets 57 FPS while the 1900XT only gets 50. (Yeah, I know they're not in the same class, but Shaun said XT before GTX! )

So Shaun, your answer is?

[Spart]

Well, can't disagree, GX2 seems to win almost every test. Damn good card, but I can only dream of it.
You are provoking Ati-fans, this might become a fight.
Personally I don't care about which company is "winning", cause I always buy these crappy mid-range cards. :/

[JaM]

Buy 7900GTO... it is much cheaper than GTX but almost same speed...

[Freddie]

Right. Huge difference. Just look at the GameSpot BF 2142 performance guide, Graphics section. GX2 gets 85 FPS, X1950 gets 59!

7900GTX gets 57 FPS while the 1900XT only gets 50. (Yeah, I know they're not in the same class, but Shaun said XT before GTX! )

So Shaun, your answer is?

My answer is you won't be running BF2142 with both AA and HDR on at the same time where as X19xx owners will be. I hope you enjoy your few extra FPS.

[Arakorn]

Those "few extra FPS"'s will be worth their weight in - bits - when the enemy approaches you :wink:
It is a matter of milliseconds when you have to kill your enemy!

And we're not talking about what card to get, we're talking about the best available card! Which is of course, according to this test, the NVidia Geforce 7950 GX2! (Even better in Quad-SLI of course)

[Shaun]

Right. Huge difference. Just look at the GameSpot BF 2142 performance guide, Graphics section. GX2 gets 85 FPS, X1950 gets 59!

7900GTX gets 57 FPS while the 1900XT only gets 50. (Yeah, I know they're not in the same class, but Shaun said XT before GTX! )

So Shaun, your answer is?

My answer is that since when has better performance in one game ever meant that one card is better than another card?

Radeons still have the overall better image quality, and are overall cheaper as well. The GTX beats the XT very slightly, yet is about £100 more! Also, how much does the GX2 cost? I got my Sapphire X1950XTX for under £300, I would like to see a GX2 come in at that price!

But the GX2 has lots of potential, I mean they didnt even bother to clock it as high as the 7900GT's!

[SPARTAN VI]

My answer is that since when has better performance in one game ever meant that one card is better than another card?

Radeons still have the overall better image quality, and are overall cheaper as well. The GTX beats the XT very slightly, yet is about £100 more! Also, how much does the GX2 cost? I got my Sapphire X1950XTX for under £300, I would like to see a GX2 come in at that price!

But the GX2 has lots of potential, I mean they didnt even bother to clock it as high as the 7900GT's!

I switched from a 7900GT to a X1900XT purely because the games I play are more ATi friendly.

I got the Sapphire X1900XT 256mb from NewEgg for $240.00. Easily OC's to XTX speeds, but the fan is very loud. But for $240, who's really going to complain?

[Arakorn]

I switched from a 7900GT to a X1900XT purely because the games I play are more ATi friendly.

I got the Sapphire X1900XT 256mb from NewEgg for $240.00. Easily OC's to XTX speeds, but the fan is very loud. But for $240, who's really going to complain?

What games are ati friendly? Almost all games I play have a "Plays best on NVidia"-tag. I think that I've only seen HL2 with an Ati-tag on it. But I really don't care what GPU it plays best on, to me it's just BS.

And yeah, you got Ati, so of course your fan is loud (and probably hot too )

[Spart]

I think Half-Life 2 runs better with ATi (+all the mods of course). And then TESIV: Oblivion.. And a few others, can't remember. I really hate those stupid nVidia commercials when I start the game.

And if the cooler is too loud buy a new one (Zalman ftw =)). Not so expensive, and you can OC your card a bit more.. Stock coolers are crappy, especially with Ati.

[Erik]

What games are ati friendly? Almost all games I play have a "Plays best on NVidia"-tag.

That's just advertising.
You should check unbiased benchmarks instead.

[Freddie]

What games are ati friendly? Almost all games I play have a "Plays best on NVidia"-tag. I think that I've only seen HL2 with an Ati-tag on it. But I really don't care what GPU it plays best on, to me it's just BS.

And yeah, you got Ati, so of course your fan is loud (and probably hot too )

I beg to differ the X1950 is probably the quietest stock fan on any video card on the market (ATI or NVIDIA). As for myself I use an Artic Cooling Accelero X2 which gives better cooling over the stock cooler and whisper quite operation.

I think you’re referring to the pre game promos where the logo says, NVIDIA - The Way it was meant to be played. That means jack to how a game performs, I still play UT2K4 which is an NVIDIA sponsored game, but all the bench marks show ATI cards in the lead. The rule of thumb I se is this, if game is written for the DirectX API ATI cards will generally have the edge (such as Unreal Tournament, HLF2, Oblivion, X3), if the game uses the OpenGl API NVIDIA cards tend to have the upper hand (games such as Doom 3).

As for your point about;

Those "few extra FPS"'s will be worth their weight in - bits - when the enemy approaches you
It is a matter of milliseconds when you have to kill your enemy!

I take it your talking about multiplayer games over the internet? Milliseconds are all about your bandwidth of your Internet connection not your graphics card.


ATI image quality all the way baby yeah!!!

sorry I just to get that out my sytem.

[SPARTAN VI]

What games are ati friendly? Almost all games I play have a "Plays best on NVidia"-tag. I think that I've only seen HL2 with an Ati-tag on it. But I really don't care what GPU it plays best on, to me it's just BS.

Take a look for yourself: http://xbitlabs.com/articles/video/d...ax1900xtx.html

Those are purely X1900s vs 7900s because I'm comparing similar cards at similar price ranges. Afterall, I switched from a 7900GT to X1900XT for free.

My current games are: Call of Duty 2, Battlefield 2, Age of Empires III, FEAR, B&W2, Half-Life 2 (CS:S, Ep. 1, DoD), Oblivion, and RTW. Of the games mentioned, well, you can see for yourself that a X1900XT does damn well. My X1900XT is at XTX speeds, so you can imagine the bang for buck factor there.

I wouldn't dismiss these obvious differences as "BS."

And yeah, you got Ati, so of course your fan is loud (and probably hot too )

Of course, as with every ATi card I had. Of course, 16xAF HQ coupled with AA + HDR, I'd take the noise and heat.

You know what rocks about not having any brand loyalty? I can switch cards on the fly and not give a damn.
My ladder:

GeForce2 MX400 > GeForceFX 5200 > Radeon 9800Pro > 6600GT > X800XL > 7800GT > 7800GT SLI > 7900GT > X1900XT


Woot for no brand loyalties! nvidiots and fanATIcs can go play in the sand box.

[OTZ]

The 1900XTX (or perhaps the x1950XTX now?) is the best single-gpu card on the market at this time.

[Shaun]

Yes OTZ it would be the X1950XTX now, it has GDDR4 memory clocked faster than the X1900XTX's GDDR3 (which the GX2 uses as well) which make it even faster.

[Erik]

From tomshardware:

Geforce 7950 GX2

Codename: G71, 90 nm technology
2x24 Pixel shaders, 2x8 Vertex shaders, 2x24 Texture units, 2x16 Raster operations processors
256 bit memory bus
500 MHz core, 600 MHz DDR (1200 MHz Effective) Memory

If you have money to burn, the money-is-no-object price segment will offer diminishing returns for the high price tag. But if you have the money and need to play at the highest resolutions available with high levels of AA, then SLI/Crossfire setups are the way to go.

Probably the most reasonably priced and easy to use multi-GPU solution is the Geforce 7950 Gx2, which is actually a single card with two 7900 GPUs built in; it performs faster than any other single card available at ultra-high resolutions.

Keep in mind though that if you play at 1280x1024 resolution with 4xAA, you would be wasting money on the GX2, as cheaper single cards like the X1900 XTX and 7900 GTX can outperform the card at those settings. But if you play at 1600x1200 with 6xAA, the 7950 GX2 can't be beat by any single card out there.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/...e_card_for_500

[Shaun]

Does it matter if the fan is load? Crank up the volume if you cant hear your games/music. I have very large speakers, so I am not going to be faced with the problem of the GPU fan drowning out the volume of my games/music.

[Arakorn]

First off, I said that I don't believe the commercials, and that they're ********.

Secondly:

I take it your talking about multiplayer games over the internet? Milliseconds are all about your bandwidth of your Internet connection not your graphics card.

Yes, but if the Graphics lag youre at a disadvantage too, right? :wink:

[Spart]

Yea, I'm sure they lag with X1900-series. :wink:

[Freddie]

First off, I said that I don't believe the commercials, and that they're ********.

Secondly:

Yes, but if the Graphics lag youre at a disadvantage too, right? :wink:

Yes system lag can cause some problems but when your runnning top end video cards lag is more likely to come from lack of ram or your hard drive being slowed down with adware and spyware, as I;ve found trying to sort out Company of Heros.

[Shaun]

First off, I said that I don't believe the commercials, and that they're ********.

Yeah, most "nVidia, the way its meant to be played" games run better on ATi, and HL (about the only ATi sponsored game I can think of) runs better on GeForce's.

Secondly:

Yes, but if the Graphics lag youre at a disadvantage too, right? :wink:

But an X1900XT isnt going to lag on games today, is it?

@Peter, its still a difference, even though it is almost unnoticable, its unnoticable like the few more FPS nVidia cards get on ATi is some games.