Third Age Issue

**Somebodies** · August 06, 2014, 10:57 AM

I recently installed Third Age and noticed a problem, when I click Custom Battle it closes the game down and returns to the desktop, also when I try to start the campaign lets say as the Dwarves the game simply goes back to the selection screen where you can click Custom Battle and Multiplayer etc. I tried fixing this and thought I fixed it when I read that you can delete the map.rwm but it only allowed me to view the cinematics and would crash on the loading bar, I then tried the Daylight savings fix with no resolve. Also when I try to run the game through the shortcuts it simply says: Cannot find "Kingdoms.exe" and the script "G5BAISwitcher.vbs" but runs the main menu fine through Steam.

I have Medieval 2 Total War with the Kingdoms Expansion (Run via Steam)
I have all the mod parts 3.0 part 1 of 2 and part 2 of 2 and the 3.2 patch with the addition of the MOS submod parts (The full install 1.50, 1.60 upgrade and the 1.6.1 patch)
I am running on Windows 7 Ultimate

Thank you for reading my post and all help is appreciated as I hope to get this fixed because the mod looks great

**Gigantus** · August 07, 2014, 08:04 AM

A return to menu will leave a message in the error log, most of the times it's an error in the descr_strat file. If memory serves right the log will be in the logs sub folder of the main game (medieval II total war\logs).
Open with Notepad and scroll to the bottom, that's where the message will be. Or compress and upload the log for someone to have a look.

A simple way for Steam to start the mod: open the BAT file in the Third Age folder (right click, choose 'edit') and replace kingdoms.exe with medieval2.exe
Save and use your TATW desktop short cut as usual.

**Somebodies** · August 07, 2014, 11:47 AM

I looked in the logs folder and its empty, I also replaced kingdoms.exe with medieveal2.exe in the BAT file called Third Age in the Third Age Folder when I try to launch the mod using the shortcuts it opens the default game and not the mod.

Again, thank you for reading and replying!

**Gigantus** · August 07, 2014, 11:57 AM

Another method for trying to start the mod with steam is here.

Download the attachment and extract it into the Third Age folder
Rename the Third Age.CFG file to configuration.cfg

Double click the new BAT file

Log - there are occasions when the log isn't generated, please check again the next time.

**Somebodies** · August 07, 2014, 12:14 PM

Okay so for me my Third Age is in the teutonic folder because I didn't play that campaign at all, I downloaded the attachment and did as you said but now I noticed within the mods folder another folder titled Third_age_3 has been made with sub folders (packs, preferences and saves) even though its already in the teutonic folder where TATW is situated, but when I double click the new BAT file it still opens Medieval 2 and not Third Age.

I also received a message in the log so here it is, its quite long xD

18:06:50.894 [system.rpt] [always] CPU: SSE2
18:06:50.894 [system.rpt] [always] ==== system log start, build date: Aug 2 2014 version development ===
18:06:50.898 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_0.pack
18:06:50.898 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_1.pack
18:06:50.899 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_2.pack
18:06:50.900 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_3.pack
18:06:50.901 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_4.pack
18:06:50.901 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/localized.pack
18:06:50.903 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/menu_english.txt.strings.bin is missing
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18:06:50.905 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/expanded.txt.strings.bin is missing
18:06:50.905 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/expanded.txt is missing
18:06:50.907 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/diplomacy.txt.strings.bin is missing
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18:06:50.912 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/missions.txt.strings.bin is missing
18:06:50.912 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/missions.txt is missing
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18:06:50.916 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/shortcut.txt is missing
18:06:53.094 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for ANISELECT
18:06:53.097 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_SABOTAGE
18:06:53.100 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_TRADE
18:06:53.110 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for DRAGGABLE
18:06:53.110 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for DRAGGING
18:06:53.112 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_MULTIPLE_SELECT
18:06:53.112 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_ATTACK
18:06:53.112 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PLACE_CHARACTER
18:06:53.112 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PLACE_RESOURCE
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18:06:53.113 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_MOVE_OBJECT
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18:06:53.113 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_DEPLOYMENT_AREA
18:06:53.113 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PLACE_TILE
18:06:53.113 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PLACE_SPECIAL_PIECE
18:06:53.113 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PAINT
18:06:53.113 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_ADJUST_HEIGHTS
18:06:53.113 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_ADD_UNIT
18:06:53.113 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PLACE_SETTLEMENT
18:06:53.362 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/religions.txt.strings.bin is missing
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18:06:53.363 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/climates.txt.strings.bin is missing
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18:06:53.588 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/export_units.txt.strings.bin is missing
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18:06:53.623 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/rebel_faction_descr.txt.strings.bin is missing
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18:06:53.628 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/export_buildings.txt.strings.bin is missing
18:06:53.780 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/export_buildings.txt is missing
18:06:53.788 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/building_battle.txt.strings.bin is missing
18:06:53.792 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/building_battle.txt is missing
18:06:54.075 [data.missing] [warning] Cannot find the portrait path: data/ui/mesoamerican/portraits/portraits/young/civilians/000.tga, using the default culture path if it exists
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18:06:54.098 [data.missing] [warning] Cannot find the portrait path: data/ui/mesoamerican/portraits/portraits/young/inquisitors/000.tga, using the default culture path if it exists
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18:06:54.112 [data.missing] [warning] Cannot find the portrait path: data/ui/eastern_european/portraits/portraits/young/civilians/000.tga, using the default culture path if it exists
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18:06:54.137 [data.missing] [warning] Cannot find the portrait path: data/ui/eastern_european/portraits/portraits/young/inquisitors/000.tga, using the default culture path if it exists
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18:06:54.149 [data.missing] [warning] Cannot find the portrait path: data/ui/middle_eastern/portraits/portraits/young/princesses/000.tga, using the default culture path if it exists
18:06:54.157 [data.missing] [warning] Cannot find the portrait path: data/ui/middle_eastern/portraits/portraits/young/heretics/000.tga, using the default culture path if it exists
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18:06:54.161 [data.missing] [warning] Cannot find the portrait path: data/ui/middle_eastern/portraits/portraits/young/witches/000.tga, using the default culture path if it exists
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18:06:54.164 [data.missing] [warning] Cannot find the portrait path: data/ui/middle_eastern/portraits/portraits/young/inquisitors/000.tga, using the default culture path if it exists
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18:06:54.166 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/export_VnVs.txt.strings.bin is missing
18:06:54.210 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/export_VnVs.txt is missing
18:06:54.221 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 10671, column 23 :
we should only have trait(Berserker) additional affects for triggers(Battle_Losing_Berserker)
18:06:54.222 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 10789, column 28 :
we should only have trait(BattleChivalry) additional affects for triggers(battle3Chivalry_Dread_Not_fighting)
18:06:54.222 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 10790, column 25 :
we should only have trait(BattleDread) additional affects for triggers(battle3Chivalry_Dread_Not_fighting)
18:06:54.222 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 10800, column 28 :
we should only have trait(BattleChivalry) additional affects for triggers(battle3Chivalry_Dread_Routing)
18:06:54.222 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 10801, column 25 :
we should only have trait(BattleDread) additional affects for triggers(battle3Chivalry_Dread_Routing)
18:06:54.222 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 10813, column 28 :
we should only have trait(BattleChivalry) additional affects for triggers(battle3Chivalry_Dread_Routing2)
18:06:54.222 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 10814, column 25 :
we should only have trait(BattleDread) additional affects for triggers(battle3Chivalry_Dread_Routing2)
18:06:54.222 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 10855, column 25 :
we should only have trait(BattleDread) additional affects for triggers(battle3Dread_Let_Them_Go)
18:06:54.232 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 16753, column 27 :
we should only have trait(GoodDenouncer) additional affects for triggers(hereticinit1_denouncerclear)
18:06:54.232 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 16761, column 26 :
we should only have trait(BadDenouncer) additional affects for triggers(hereticinit1_denouncerclear_bad)
18:06:54.232 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 16769, column 25 :
we should only have trait(StrongFaith) additional affects for triggers(hereticinit1_faithclear)
18:06:54.233 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 16777, column 22 :
we should only have trait(Purifier) additional affects for triggers(hereticinit1_purifierclear)
18:06:54.234 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 17702, column 29 :
we should only have trait(CrusaderHistory) additional affects for triggers(crusades_6)
18:06:54.234 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 17703, column 30 :
we should only have trait(StrategyChivalry) additional affects for triggers(crusades_6)
18:06:54.235 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 17712, column 29 :
we should only have trait(CrusaderHistory) additional affects for triggers(crusades_7)
18:06:54.235 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 17755, column 26 :
we should only have trait(JihadHistory) additional affects for triggers(jihads_7)
18:06:54.235 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 17756, column 30 :
we should only have trait(StrategyChivalry) additional affects for triggers(jihads_7)
18:06:54.235 [script.err] [warning] Trigger parsing warning in data/export_descr_character_traits.txt, at line 17765, column 26 :
we should only have trait(JihadHistory) additional affects for triggers(jihads_8)
18:06:54.235 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Third_Age_3/data/text/export_ancillaries.txt.strings.bin is missing
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18:07:01.732 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/icons.tga.dds is missing

**Somebodies** · August 07, 2014, 04:30 PM

I downloaded the attachment and renamed the Third age.CFG to configuration.cfg but still, when I double click the new BAT file it opens Medieval 2 and not the Third Age mod, Also the log updated and I tried to post it before but it had to wait for admin approval but I haven't seen it pop up here yet.

**ElvenKind** · August 07, 2014, 05:00 PM

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...OS-won-t-start

**Somebodies** · August 07, 2014, 05:25 PM

So I followed the instructions you have given on that thread with Third_Age_3 as a separate folder rather than being the teutonic folder and can open using the shortcuts now and through steam perfectly fine. But I still have the same problem when I try to start the campaign it returns to the menu, and when I try to click custom battle it crashes to desktop, in regard to the destination folder this is what it looks like if this is any help G:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\common\Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age_3, I have a feeling I might have installed it in the wrong place regarding the quote you said in the other thread Destination Folder is the location of your main Medieval II Total War folder, that means that it HAS TO HAVE this at the end: ..\Medieval II Total War

**Gigantus** · August 07, 2014, 08:22 PM

It's in the right place now: ...\mods\Third_Age_3

If the 'MOS won't start' link didn't help then proceed as follows:

Now you need a trace log: open the CFG file in the Third_age_3 folder (Notepad works) and make change the log section to look like this: remove the semi colon ( ; ) form the trace line and put it in front of the error line.

[log]
to = logs/system.log.txt
level = * trace
;level = * error

Now run the game again, then check for the log, compress it (it's going to be huge) and then upload it for someone to have a look.

**ElvenKind** · August 08, 2014, 12:31 AM

Did you run the Cleaner.bat file as an Administrator? If not, run that file ( located in your Third_Age_3 folder) and try again.

Regarding MOS submod, going from Custom Battles and Campaigns and vice versa will make your game crash, this is a known case for M2TW. Fellowship campaign is not supported in MOS, if you need to make any changes/edits in MOS, you have to use Notepad++.

@Gigantus, Notepad does not work with MOS submod anymore, since they changed/edited lot of files with Notepad++, and now any other additional changes made with any other text editor than Notepad++ gives you a message "Please select an option from the following list" when you want to start a campaign,.

**Gigantus** · August 08, 2014, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by ElvenKind

@Gigantus, Notepad does not work with MOS submod anymore, since they changed/edited lot of files with Notepad++, and now any other additional changes made with any other text editor than Notepad++ gives you a message "Please select an option from the following list" when you want to start a campaign,.

Guess someone did some nifty coding (or accidentally messed up the formatting, eg EOL or file type coding). Could you upload those BAT files for me to have a look? (my TATW version is ages old)

**ElvenKind** · August 08, 2014, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Gigantus

Guess someone did some nifty coding (or accidentally messed up the formatting, eg EOL or file type coding). Could you upload those BAT files for me to have a look? (my TATW version is ages old)

Ah, I can`t upload these files, my desktop PC is not in usage ATM due to my newborn baby coming soon ( no space in my house for my desktop

).

The thing is, vanilla TATW files CAN be edited with a simple Notepad, but, if you try to edit files in submods like MOS, DaC, DaC Expanded Map and some others, it will give this meassage when trying to start a campaign: "Please select an option from the following list"

It has something to do with our mapper, Firefreak111, making this New Expanded Map which other submods implemented, and he made changes with Notepad++. Probably, as you say, he saved them in a different format.

Steam screwed up installation of many submods, it is now a pain in the ass to help peeople install them.

**Onikenshin** · August 08, 2014, 01:27 AM

I am having the same problem. I do however have the TATW 3.2 with MOS 1.6.2. None of those worked.

**Gigantus** · August 08, 2014, 09:28 AM

The Universal Batch file works well with starting mods.

**ElvenKind** · August 08, 2014, 10:07 AM

This goes into my HOT LINKS.

Thanks for the info regarding this.

**Gigantus** · August 08, 2014, 10:18 AM

You are welcome, it's a fairly new thing - developed from renaming the kingdoms.exe part in the BAT file to medieval2.exe to get it working with steam

Originally Posted by Gig

Either of the methods below work

Method 1 Make copy of medieval2.exe
Rename to kingdoms.exe
Start mods through regular BAT file

Method 2 Change BAT file (right click file, choose 'edit'): replace kingdoms.exe entry part with medieval2.exe
Start mods through regular BAT file

PLEASE remove any references about using the original campaign names (eg teutonic) as folder names for the mods, PLEASE? That was outdated years ago and right now it will create endless bug reports (see post #7).

**Somebodies** · August 08, 2014, 10:52 AM

So I ran the cleaner and I was able to get into the campaign... finally seems to be working fine now! Cheers guys for helping me and I hope this helps others, cant thank you enough