polybian reforms

**blow56** · August 05, 2014, 05:00 PM

Loving the new DEI - but when the Polybian Reforms kick in and I update all my units, I lose the nice CatMaster Roman Cohort mod that works so well with it. Up until then, I am getting 480 per cohort but afterwards, everything is down by half - save for the enemy, who are still getting THEIR 480-man units.

So I have to turn it off and lose a lot of big-battle enjoyment. Any way/mod to get 480-men units back with the updated DEI?

**tomFoolery** · August 05, 2014, 05:30 PM

Some of those DeI reform units are probably new data table entries, ergo they probably wouldn't be overwritten by tables from another mod that affects vanilla entries. The simplest thing to do might be to just go into the DeI file(s) with PFM and manually change the unit sizes yourself unfortunately.

**HadrianMT** · August 05, 2014, 07:26 PM

When will the Polybian Reforms will start ? Currently, I'm in 238BC and already researched the Advanced Barracks Construction but still haven't seen any reforms.

**zombieflanders** · August 05, 2014, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by HadrianMT

When will the Polybian Reforms will start ? Currently, I'm in 238BC and already researched the Advanced Barracks Construction but still haven't seen any reforms.

Reforms aren't tied to tech, they're tied to imperium level and time period. Read the Scriptorium stickied thread for all the info.

**Dresden** · August 05, 2014, 07:35 PM

Reforms guide: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...criptorium#R04

**HadrianMT** · August 05, 2014, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Dresden

Reforms guide: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...criptorium#R04

Thanks. But I am at turn 138 and Imperium level 6 now (army cap 12).(DeI 0.95e, new campaign)

**Dresden** · August 05, 2014, 08:21 PM

Are you using any mods that affect scripts, like campaign camera mods?

**HadrianMT** · August 05, 2014, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Dresden

Are you using any mods that affect scripts, like campaign camera mods?

I don't think so. These are the mods that I'm using:
+ DeI
+ DeI English submod
+ No Fog of War
+ Agent portrait

**Dresden** · August 05, 2014, 08:51 PM

If the no fog of war is the scripting one, then that will disable our various scripts including reforms. If it is the agent sight distance one it should be compatible.

**HadrianMT** · August 05, 2014, 09:56 PM

So if I disable the fog war, will the reform script kick in ?

**Dresden** · August 05, 2014, 10:02 PM

Unfortunately if you start the game with another script mod activated ahead of DeI, it will probably ruin your reforms for that save game. If you post it we might be able to fix it.

**HadrianMT** · August 05, 2014, 10:23 PM

Thanks a lot ! but there are new troubles, after switching those mods back and forth in the Mod Manager, whenever I click on a settlement or a general/agent, the game will crash.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/mx...BC_Winter.save

**Alu10** · August 06, 2014, 06:03 AM

i dont know why you need to have 480 men per unit. i am happy with my 68, 75, 98, 120, 180, 192, 225 unit numbers

**blow56** · August 06, 2014, 10:23 AM

Need - want, same thing according to my woman and shoes. I don't 'need' 480-man units, I just like them. The reason I ask in this case is that the 480-man Roman units have all vanished mid-game, but the ones for other tribes/peoples have not. I suspect that those, like the Carthaginians, who have Reform tables of their own will lose them when it kicks in, but there are enough holdovers for me to be going into stack-on-stack battles constantly outnumbered almost two-to-one. Turning the 480-man mod off does not help in a save game - those with existing 480-man units retain them. I am reluctant to lose a long-running game and have to start again, but it looks like I may have to.