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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0G51ZJ20140805

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/...ions-soar.html

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/vid...h-calais-video
    It's a shame that these people are prevented from traveling to wherever they want, they want to go to england, and I think very well wishing,and it is necessary to provide them with adequate means of transportation, to make the trip safely as possible,they will fulfill their dreams.

    Do not forget that they are human beings like all of us, need home, money, jobs and all the amenities you can provide for free, because they want to go to the right place, the most welcoming country in Europe.Where there are several million immigrants, well integrated, just a couple of hundreds thousands more , are unnoticeable.

    I also hope that other Nordic countries commit themselves to receive these ones , and the thousands that are in transit from Italy, besides the hundreds of thousands who are waiting in Libya, recently liberated by the French and British.

    Cause, consequence?Should intervene even where we are not called? Its Europe or Soweto?????Future????
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    That policeman reacted with some magnitude ...So who attacked whom ? And what do they want ? To repopulate Britain ?
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    If it was up to me, I would have them all arrested and deported back to their home countries. These immigrants are lucky to be able to enter a country such as France and what do they do? They complain because they're not in England....people like those shown in the video get on my nerves rather easily since most of them feel they're "entitled" to be able to go to England to cheat the welfare system which will end up hurting ordinary and hard working Britons.

    Hopefully the French Government does what's right and has them arrested for resisting and obstructing French Government employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracula View Post
    That policeman reacted with some magnitude ...So who attacked whom ? And what do they want ? To repopulate Britain ?
    Looks like.And French authorities should provide ships to travel to England,why should the channel be a border who prevent this people to reach the dreamland,and just wait for the wave who's coming there. And all this because they,Brits and French,made Libya a no man land.
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    So they know where they want to go and require to be given all things to arrive there ?!! How about a european policy to direct immigrants to regions in need of it, telling htem dirctly at the border that if they want to enter, will be on our choice. For example to be sent in Hungary or where agriculture lacks workers, or a region suffers depopulation. And who doesn't want to be loaded immediately on ships bound for the desert where they came from.
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    Lol.Sometimes is good to live in a country with economical crises,nobodies wants to come here.By the opposite,those who's use to live here marching to north,to the prosperity and welfare.
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    Implying British has to accept everything from "Europe"; where is the freedom to say "no, I don't want problem of X country enter my land"?
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    Implying British has to accept everything from "Europe"; where is the freedom to say "no, I don't want problem of X country enter my land"?
    You have stumbled onto what I feel is the proper response to the OP's race-baiting.

    Around 100,000 refugees and potentially illegal migrants hit the shores of the EU over the course of the year. THey are supposed to claim asylum in the first country thaey land in. if accepted , they are of course entiry free under EU free movement laws to live wherever they like. There are around 1,000 hanging around in Calais, So it would seem that every port of entry has processed around 99% of these migrants by either granting asylum, deporting them , or holding them pending a decsion on either. Either the French government or the Calais authories in particular have decided not to follow their own obligations to process, accept or deport, they seem to tolerate them hanging around Calais in the hope they can escape to Britian and have the UK do the work for them , at British taxpayer's expense.

    A prime example where Europe sucks.

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    Might be time to reclaim Calais; historically, it used to belong to England
    I agree.

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    as life is getting harder and less fun in Europe too.
    Shouldn't you be blaming the Euro, instead of a thousand random fellows in some foreign port?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Implying British has to accept everything from "Europe"; where is the freedom to say "no, I don't want problem of X country enter my land"?
    The point is,that people eventually will enter in your land because nobody have guts to send they back,and to France,or Italy in similar cases, is much more easy pass the problem to other country.In the present case the target of all this people seems to be GB.
    Italy,France,Greece and Spain will simple let the waves of immigrants who enter in their land,depart in UK or any other north European country direction.
    Ps.Italy claims that they expect 600k immigrants only this year.And they known that the Italian navy patrol the ocean to rescue and bring them to Europe. Now just imagine the wave who will come if we add the Ebola panic,with millions of people fleeing from west Africa.

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    Swedish authorities expect a total of 80 000 asylum seekers this year.

    Which is up from 54 000 2013 and 24 194 in 2009.

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    If Libya becomes a failed state, the EU should have it declared a protectorate, administrate it and intercept migrants at that end.
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    Europe is already overpopulated. How about trying to help these people where they need that help, i.e in their own countries. I don't have anything against people moving here from there, but I can't help but feeling like it's just tiptoeing around the core of the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maiar93 View Post
    Europe is already overpopulated. How about trying to help these people where they need that help, i.e in their own countries. I don't have anything against people moving here from there, but I can't help but feeling like it's just tiptoeing around the core of the issue.
    No it`s not, the European landmass, from the Atlantic Ocean to the mountains of Ural, is the most fertile and biggest farming land on Earth.There is nothing on Earth like it and we have only 700 million living on this land as opposed to 1.4 billion in PRC and 1.3 billion in India.

    Europe is not overpopulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShockBlast View Post
    No it`s not, the European landmass, from the Atlantic Ocean to the mountains of Ural, is the most fertile and biggest farming land on Earth.There is nothing on Earth like it and we have only 700 million living on this land as opposed to 1.4 billion in PRC and 1.3 billion in India.

    Europe is not overpopulated.
    The reason of course that you decided to count "to the Ural" is so that you could include the vast farmland in the East, most notably Ukraine in your tally. Kind of useless when discussing western Europe. Unless you are advocating living space for the Westerners >>

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    Quote Originally Posted by opock View Post
    The reason of course that you decided to count "to the Ural" is so that you could include the vast farmland in the East, most notably Ukraine in your tally. Kind of useless when discussing western Europe. Unless you are advocating living space for the Westerners >>
    Well, I hate to burst your bubble but the eastern border of Europe are the Ural mountains.Europe, as a continent, is not overpopulated.

    There is no living space problem in the EU, almost all EU countries have enough of it.As a matter of fact Romania, who has like 19,5 mil at the moment could sustain 40 mil with ease and with a half retard government in power, as opposed to a totally retard one, can get agriculture rolling and we can produce all the food needed for that population.

    Europe, and almost all first world countries are experiencing population problems due to social factors rather then food or living space, something the rest of the world will be experiencing starting with 2030 and by 2050 the majority of the world.

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    Now back on topic.

    I think France should do a far better job at integrating those migrants.Piping up your population size is one thing, making something useful with them is another thing.
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    overpopulation only exists as economic disparity, e.g. when the demand for labor is oversatisfied
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    The US and EU is not overpopulated but it can easily become overpopulated. Tbh, it's better to admit people with relative cultural similarity otherwise you are just destabilizing the country for no good reason in a time when even the natives are unhappy with their economic prospects.
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    I don't think a condition of overpopulation can exist. If anything there can only be a lack of infrastructure.
    The idea that Europe has to require living space (like the fertile ukrainian soil) to feed its people comes from a different time period when agriculture was inefficient and autarchy was favored over foreign trade. Although i agree that planet earth has natural resource limitations and that messing with the environment (garbage, emissions, etc.) is damaging, i am to 100-percent sure that this is a problem which derives from irresponsible handling of resouces, not population density in general.
    China had a one-child policy to relief its social services, but this led to the 4-2-1 problem (a increasingly smaller young generation which has to take care for the old) thus they are facing the same demographic trap like other 1st world nations and they are abandoning this policy already.

    However population density is clearly not a cause for the above riot.
    These clashes were between two groups of illegal immigrants (eritreans and sudanese), the police intervened because France isn't a african jungle where manhunt is allowed.
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    China imports soya beans, Russia banned wheat exports after a disastrous summer drought.

    Food security is a very hot topic.
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