Game crashes whe I go to load?

[RicKzillAh]

Hey,
I just installed Third Age Total War, including part one of two, part two of two and the 3.2 patch. However I didn't install the 3.1 patch as I was unable to do so, also I read that it was no longer needed so I gave up on it.
Anyway when I go to load third age total war via its desktop icon it comes up with the message "Windows cannot find 'Kingdoms.exe'. Make sure you've typed the name correctly, then try again. So after this failure I loaded up steam and I had to download a 2.1gb update which I assume is related to this, but when I click play and it gives me the options for which one I want to play and I click on Teutonic (the one I replaced) it briefly goes to the load screen in which the loading mouse is a gold ring and a figure which looks like Sauroun is in the fore picture and then it suddenly cuts back to my desktop with no message or anything. I literally feel like a donkey with a carrot in front my nose on a piece of sting. I was so close.
As a bit of side information which may be necessary, I purchased both medieval 2 and the expansion pack on steam, I have Windows 8 (everything is up to date on that) and this is the file location for where I downloaded the mods C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Medieval II Total War\mods and then renamed it from third age to teutonic and the original teutonic to teutonic1.
I would really appreciate some help and would like to apologise for my stupidity.
Thanks very much.

[ElvenKind]

Delete any TATW Files from your C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps
\common\Medieval II Total War\mods folder which you already installed and which do not work.

Update your M2TW if you haven't already done so.

After that, Run and Install All three TATW .exe files using the location of your main M2TW folder as a Destination Folder, I presume this is yours: C:\Program
Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps
\common\Medieval II Total War

Then, do not rename your Third_Age_3 Folder, leave it as it is ( that is the name of your TATW mod folder).

Use these steps to make it work ( post # 162 or is it # 161): http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...date-for/page9

Good luck!

[RicKzillAh]

Thanks dude, I'll give it a try. As you can probably tell, I'm hopeless at this sort of thing. Anyway, I forgot to add this: the first time round when I went to download/install from the website I didn't know where it had installed/downloaded to in my computer and could not therefore open them to install/download (sorry I don't know the difference), this meant I had to go back and follow the three links again and then installed/downloaded them into "downloads" in my computer. Firstly I think that the fact I have another copy of them somewhere in my computer might be affecting it as well, also I'm not sure if I was supposed to install/download to "downloads" or somewhere more specific.
Sorry, last thing, is right clicking and selecting delete sufficient enough or is it more complicated than that to remove it?
Again, thanks very much

[RicKzillAh]

Ok, I just deleted the original Third_Age_3 from C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Medieval II Total War\mods which I had renamed to teutonic. I've ran and installed all three TATW.exe files to the location you said. But I realised that I ran and installed them to that same location the first time meaning I have a duplicate (I think) of everything to do with TATW in this location C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Medieval II Total War apart from the file Third_Age_3 in the mods file as I've already deleted that and there is now a new one. I'm not sure they are duplicates though because there is essentialy three pairs of files which each have the same start to the file name but one end in .dll and the second one ends in d.dll Is its safe to delete one of them or should I just leave them? Thanks

[ElvenKind]

Right clicking and using Delete command is enough.

You do not need to delete the TATW Installers/.exe files from your Downloads, cause, they do not affect your games or change/add Registry entries.

You just need to delete TATW files from your main M2TW/ mods folder, and then install again TATW by using those .exe files from your Downloads.

[ElvenKind]

If you had used that file path for ALL TATW .exe/ Installer files, and installed them, then you should get a new Third_Age_3 folder in your M2TW/ mods folder. Now, use those steps from the link I gave you ( post #162 or is it # 161) so you can re-configure your Steam Library by adding TATW as a submod. And then launch TATW, test it can you start a campaign.

For battle crashes disable/turn off Automatic daylight saving setting: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html

[RicKzillAh]

I've got as far as opening the steam tab to add medieval2.exe however I can't right click on it to select the properties?

[RicKzillAh]

Hopefully this is my last question, for step 5 when you are supposed to rename the target line I'm not sure how to write it. "on the target line add ""C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War\medieval2.exe" @mods\nameofmodfolder\nameofconfig.cfg"". For me would this be: C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War\medieval2.exe\mods\Third_Age_3\TATW.cfg or do I literally have to add the @ sign as it is included in the quotation, so it would look like this: C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War\medieval2.exe@mods\Third_Age_3\TATW.cfg

[RicKzillAh]

Oops, ignore that, I didn't realise you had to add it first.

[ElvenKind]

Yes, add the @ sign

C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Medieval II Total War\medieval2.exe@mods\Third_Age_3\TATW.cfg

[RicKzillAh]

Ok, I've done that but the next step says to open the batch file inside the Third_Age_3 mod using notepad++, however I don't know if I have notepad++ also it doesn't give me an option for what programme to open it with. Anyway when I do open it, it pops up with command (I think - its called "C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exe") in the background and a message with the title "kingdoms.exe" and the text "windows cannot find kingdoms.exe, make sure you've typed the name correctly then try again".
Have I done something wrong or do I have to get notepad++ (although it doesn't give me a choice of how to open it).
By the way I'm extremely grateful for what you're doing:p0, cheers

By the way, the batch file is called third Age so I'm pretty sure I'm in the right place.

[ElvenKind]

1) Download this Notepad++, a free text editing program. Install it.

2) Right mouse click on TATW.bat ( .batch ) file, click on Edit with Notepad++.

3) Make the edits which are needed: change kingdoms.exe to medieval2.exe

cd ..\..
start kingdoms.exe @mods\Third_Age_3\TATW.cfg

change to:

cd ..\..
start medieval2.exe @mods\Third_Age_3\TATW.cfg

Save and Exit. Start TATW.

[RicKzillAh]

Thanks so much, it's been working for me with no problems. Would you recommend I get the MOS sub mod and the divide and conquer sub mod as well?

[RicKzillAh]

One more thing, I've already started a campaign but I want to install the mos mod, I don't mind losing this campaign progress as I haven't got very far, is it necessary to do something to this or when I install the mos mod or is it fine to just leave it and install mos anyway without touching anything? thanks

[RicKzillAh]

For downloading sub mods, what do I do? (In this case the mos mod)
I've already installed them to my downloads but I'm not sure where to install them to
1. what's the location I need to download it to ( inside third age or mods...)?
2. I'm guessing its the same procedure as the first time?

[ElvenKind]

I would try out vanilla first, and then go for these submods.

[RicKzillAh]

Okay, it's already incredibly fun without them, best take the advice of the pro as well

[ElvenKind]

Well, I would make a backup of Third_Age_3 folder somewhere BEFORE installing any other submod, cause that way you have a working copy of TATW for any other submod which you want to install, or in case you screw up installation, then you can just copy/paste the whole folder back into your Medieval II Total War/ mods folder.

MOS is a little bit tricky to install, you can use my instructions from here ( post #3 for latest MOS 1.6.2 version): http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...h-pictures-!-)

After installing it, remember to edit TATW.cfg file again with Notepad++ , cause MOS installation overwrites TATW.cfg file. ( you need to do same thing from post # 12 above).

[RicKzillAh]

Cheers for the help, like you suggested I won't do that for a while as I'm having loads of fun without them, just wanted to know for the future
Also I have a craving to play the battle of helms deep, that can wait though, making it more awesome for when I do play it.

[ElvenKind]

Vanilla TATW 3.2 has one bug called Reinforcement bug, if you fight a battle with reinforcement present on either side( yours or the enemy's) it crashes when the reinforcements start to arrive.

There is a fix for it here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ntial-bugfixes

Reinforcement fix link is the one you need.